Boulder is overrated. I want to move.

Snarf Burger (not that great) wrote:

... Everyone talks about how the winters here are mild. Not really true. ....

LOL! The term "mild" they use in Colorado is relative to other colder states. I took my daughter to see Boulder and Fort Collins over new years. It was about 5 deg F in Boulder with a lot of unplowed snow on the ground. We did the CSU Fort Collins tour and the tour guide said that it's not that cold and she oly wears a light jacket in the winter. (It was 0 deg F in Fort Collins on the morning she told us this). Someone else in the admissions office used the term "mild" in stating that Colorado was not North Dakota, South Dakota, or Nebraska. He should have also said it's not the Bay Area, where the low's are higher than Boulder's highs:

There be a lot of haters out there

Exactly, the grass is not always greener. You have to make the best of every situation. I live in south florida, and would LOVE to have single track in my back yard. Love florida for the weather, but not so much for the running trails/locations. It has to be a cost benefit analysis for you and your loved ones

Quit being so hard on yourself. Trust me, there are a lot of people who would love to life your Boulder life style.

Have you ever had a job? And taking out the trash at your parents once a week home does not count.

codaayyee wrote:

Exactly, the grass is not always greener. You have to make the best of every situation. I live in south florida, and would LOVE to have single track in my back yard. Love florida for the weather, but not so much for the running trails/locations. It has to be a cost benefit analysis for you and your loved ones

Florida weather is WHY you live there!?! Um, no bro. Florida sucks big time—in particular the weather. Colorado is wwwwaaaaaayyyyyy better than Florida. Less idiots, less pedos, less humidity. Florida is a sh!thole state. Your grass is only greener to morons from the northeast and Midwest.

Colorado>Florida >>California

Creek Path Hero wrote:

Nice, good looking out. I keep waiting for a Greeley poster to come on here and dump on Boulder, Ft. Collins, Denver, and Colorado Springs for being full of conceited, rich, prissy runners and explain all the ways that Greeley is the true home to blue collar runners in CO. Until Pueblo runner chimes in… ?

If Fort Collins is a cow town I don't know what to say about those two. They are like Florida for me....way too flat. Never mind the less well off/more run down thing.

Honestly the saddest spot for me is CO Springs. Went K-12 there (well, Monument) but....eh. It's got so much potential. An outdoors to rival what Boulder has. Unfortunately, the roads are in really bad repair overall. They have improved over the last few years but still a long way to go. More than anything...it's just....kinda dead. No scene, no life, no downtown vibe, etc. Weak dating scene and not much going on, especially if you're a 22-35 type single person.

Good place to raise a family, especially if you're a conservative values person, but not a vibrant place.

MIchIgan wrote:

wewelkj wrote:

Oh yeah? I ate it but then I couldn't make the turn onto 55th street at rush hour because the commuting a-holes on their way back to Firestone were blocking the lanes to Arapahoe

Thanks for that, seriously. I'll take my normal average USA town Shelby Township, Michigan and run out at Stoney Creek on weekends. Winters are give and take and I have a treadmill, but Spring, Summer and Fall are great running weather. Thanks again as an old College teammate was trying to get me to move out there to Fort Collins several years ago, glad I stayed put.

Moved from Boulder to MI.

Boy am I glad to be gone from MI since. Woof. MI fantasy is to have a lake house in SE Michigan in some exclusive community and go "up north" in your RV or to your lakehouse every weekend in the summer with everyone else and talk about how great MI is. Barf. So glad to be back out west.

MI does however have the best beer. Sorry CA/CO/OR

States of priority wrote:

Colorado>Florida >>California

Nope! It’s Colorado >>> Oregon > Hawai’i > California > Washington > Arizona > Alaska > Montana > Utah > Idaho > Vermont > New Hampshire > Maine >New York > Wisconsin > Michigan > Illinois > >>>>>>>>> all the remaining states which, if you are able to be objective and honest with yourself, are sh!tholes. All the remaining states are basically unliveable due to horrible weather and horrible people. Utah would be higher—perhaps even above Colorado, if it were not home to the American Taliban that dominates almost every aspect of that state.

If you’re a runner & like to be outdoors and, again, are not delusional, then the above is 100% correct.

If you mean medication, clearly this nitwit is on the wrong ones. If you mean self-medicating with alcohol then you're probably right.

Lived in boulder for 4 years in the 90’s. Loved it when I was there and it was perfect for that chapter of my life.

Now that I’m old and live more of a balanced and normal life I don’t think I’d want to live in Boulder.

Anyone that’s says boulder sucks hasn’t ever lived in 95% of the towns in America. It’s a top 15 place to live and train no matter how you slice it. Could be a lot worse.

It's funny, Boulder should be called Runlandia because it's Portlandia's answer to running where the dream of the '90s lives. It's like the running community in the Boulder Bubble remains stuck sometime in the '90s, it just never advanced. About the time world class runners retired or stopped showing up. Look at all those groups, top runners are 2:16+ & 2:35+ and they think they're superstars. Or you have all these hobbyjogger training programs that are basically like TNT back in the day. Meanwhile, all across the country from Austin to the Bay Area to Boston to NYC you have innovations in cool run crews and specialty running business. Just walk into Boulder's "newest" running shop, In Motion. It sure is a nice, new space and all but it has the same old shoes and gear presented in the same old way, it's just BRC with a bit different look and less selection.

Boulder's a nice place but really just lame.

States of priority wrote:

Colorado>Florida >>California

I've lived in all three, and you have this wrong.

It's California>>Colorado>>>>>Florida

The Jeff wrote:

About the time world class runners retired or stopped showing up. Look at all those groups, top runners are 2:16+ & 2:35+ and they think they're superstars.

This is just not true. There are a number of world class distance runners in Boulder. Coburn, Simpson, Praught-Leer are all world class and have won major championships.

the hell man wrote:

Who the hell refuses a tech job in Bay Area. If you can earn enough to afford living like a decent person over there - and tech jobs are some of the few that can - rest of the drawbacks are really minor, just so that you have something to beatch about on the web

My company has it's HQ in the Bay Area and I could move there with a 200K+ salary if I wanted, but I won't.

Having lived in cities like Paris, London, and Rio, where you can walk/bike everywhere, I can't stand the idea of not having anything within walking distance. I've been to my company's HQ and it's traffic in the morning to get to the office, you need a car to do anything, the neighborhoods are so small that there's really nothing going on.

My company has a ferry/shuttle system to take employees from SF to the offices, but then I'd be facing a 1h+ commute, which I just won't do.

I live in London right now and walk 5 min to the office, and I have probably 30+ restaurants and 10+ bars within 3 mins walking distance.

I might move to the NYC office in the future though.

Simpson and Coburn have, yes. And they were recruited by Wetmore and Burroughs with scholarship offers and remained as their training in their pro careers centered on CU. The Culpeppers were based out of Boulder, too.

What men have made USA teams for Olympics or WC out of Boulder who weren't Buffs first? Women?

Praught-Leer was recruited by Coburn after she left the CU fold, and while CWG gold is nice let's see if that translates to making the podium in Doha, a true major championship.

This is not on the level of Shorter, Jones, Deek, Plaatjes coming to town, setting up shop, drawing other national and world class runners to come train with them, and notching major wins and records. Those days are long gone, starting about the time the Coogans rolled back to the East Coast.

And Warren Buffett loves living in Omaha, NE where he has set up Berkshire HQ, and can drink gallons of cokes and eat huge steaks. I’ve been to Nebraska and have extended family there. Very fast indoor banked 200m track at UNebraska in Lincoln. I thought for outdoors training in winter it was way windier than Boulder’s wind gusts.

The Jeff wrote:

Simpson and Coburn have, yes. And they were recruited by Wetmore and Burroughs with scholarship offers and remained as their training in their pro careers centered on CU. The Culpeppers were based out of Boulder, too.

What men have made USA teams for Olympics or WC out of Boulder who weren't Buffs first? Women?

Praught-Leer was recruited by Coburn after she left the CU fold, and while CWG gold is nice let's see if that translates to making the podium in Doha, a true major championship.

This is not on the level of Shorter, Jones, Deek, Plaatjes coming to town, setting up shop, drawing other national and world class runners to come train with them, and notching major wins and records. Those days are long gone, starting about the time the Coogans rolled back to the East Coast.

I'm not saying its as good or better now than it was back then but there are some world class and a bunch of national class runners training in Boulder. There are not any great marathoners there at the moment. That could change if Droddy, Stinson, or Fischer figure out the marathon. I do think it is silly that so many runners flock to Boulder over Colorado Springs and Fort Collins which are much more affordable for a runner trying to make it without a big shoe contract. It really doesn't make sense to live in such an expensive city and have to fly to all your competitive races on your own dime.

Anyways, if you think the weather is bad in Boulder or Fort Collins it seems you are from the South or running at the wrong time of day.

They need to make it like Shoes n Brews in Longmont