BAREGA MF BAREGA 12:43!!

+1 I don't get this outrage for "age cheating", for events that are not junior events. If you run 12:43 at any age, that is an amazing achievement.

Five is the magic number wrote:

This was senior race with no lower age limit, not a junior race with an upper age limit, or a bar with a drinking age lower limit!

It makes absolutely no difference to the senior record legitimacy or top ten list if he's 18, 23, 45 or 15. Save your age complaints for where they belong.

rekrunner wrote:

+1

I don't get this outrage for "age cheating", for events that are not junior events.

If you run 12:43 at any age, that is an amazing achievement.

Five is the magic number wrote:

This was senior race with no lower age limit, not a junior race with an upper age limit, or a bar with a drinking age lower limit!

It makes absolutely no difference to the senior record legitimacy or top ten list if he's 18, 23, 45 or 15. Save your age complaints for where they belong.

Why am I not surprised.

This reminds me of that time when a bunch of EPOians ran 2.03 and 2.04's at the abidabi marathon a few years back, some very young and on debut. They put themselves in the spotlight of testers and faded never to run as fast again. I expect history to be repeated here.

I don't know what a "doping apo" is. "apo" is a prefix meaning "away from" -- I guess in that sense, I could be called apo-doping -- is that a word? "age cheating" is not an anti-doping rule violation, and it is not a criteria in Diamond League events. It is yet another red-herring. It looks like another "inflated issue" that anti-fans of the sport use to unwittingly help destroy the sport. Or maybe it is just a proxy for racism. I am against athletes taking WADA-banned substances, and in favor of athlete bans according to anti-doping guidelines. If you want to increase your blood values legally, I recommend "hi-lo" altitude training.

Ex-runner, Rekrunner, Ghost1, Renato and JonO are all doping apo wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

+1

I don't get this outrage for "age cheating", for events that are not junior events.

If you run 12:43 at any age, that is an amazing achievement.

Why am I not surprised.

rekrunner wrote:

I don't know what a "doping apo" is. "apo" is a prefix meaning "away from" -- I guess in that sense, I could be called apo-doping -- is that a word?

"age cheating" is not an anti-doping rule violation, and it is not a criteria in Diamond League events. It is yet another red-herring.

It looks like another "inflated issue" that anti-fans of the sport use to unwittingly help destroy the sport.

Or maybe it is just a proxy for racism.

I am against athletes taking WADA-banned substances, and in favor of athlete bans according to anti-doping guidelines.

If you want to increase your blood values legally, I recommend "hi-lo" altitude training.

Ex-runner, Rekrunner, Ghost1, Renato and JonO are all doping apo wrote:

Why am I not surprised.

He obviously ran out of space. BTW Rekrunner what do you think, is Berega on the juice, yes or no?

Drug, drugs and more drugs, it's just sick wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

I don't know what a "doping apo" is. "apo" is a prefix meaning "away from" -- I guess in that sense, I could be called apo-doping -- is that a word?

"age cheating" is not an anti-doping rule violation, and it is not a criteria in Diamond League events. It is yet another red-herring.

It looks like another "inflated issue" that anti-fans of the sport use to unwittingly help destroy the sport.

Or maybe it is just a proxy for racism.

I am against athletes taking WADA-banned substances, and in favor of athlete bans according to anti-doping guidelines.

If you want to increase your blood values legally, I recommend "hi-lo" altitude training.

He obviously ran out of space. BTW Rekrunner what do you think, is Berega on the juice, yes or no?

He thinks it doesn't matter, just like JO.

I agree with your handle -- drugs make you sick. I think Berega is not on the juice.

Drug, drugs and more drugs, it's just sick wrote:

He obviously ran out of space. BTW Rekrunner what do you think, is Berega on the juice, yes or no?

Also. If he is on the juice, I think he could run a similar time clean.

Don't work nohow wrote:

He thinks it doesn't matter, just like JO.

rekrunner wrote:

If you want to increase your blood values legally, I recommend "hi-lo" altitude training.

Well then coach...you better get out there to the trenches of E. Africa and start preaching that message. But I'm wondering - do you think it's a good bett they would even listen to you? ?

I'm no geographer, but I thought East Africa is not in the trenches, but on a high altitude plateau. For those East Africans whose ultimate goal is high blood scores, they are already getting a natural stimulation legally. East Africans are already training at altitude, rendering my recommendation superfluous, and the question of whether they would listen moot.

Everyone's looking for an edge wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

If you want to increase your blood values legally, I recommend "hi-lo" altitude training.

Well then coach...you better get out there to the trenches of E. Africa and start preaching that message. But I'm wondering - do you think it's a good bett they would even listen to you? ?

Moving on from EPO wrote:

Speed Peptide Era B True wrote:

Spot on about this being the speed peptide era. Dat B True.

Maybe the speed peptide is the new rocket fuel? (except in Kenya. Lol).

The speed peptide (IGF-1 Ir3) is a big part of the rocket fuel mix!

What's the glow time for this drug?

I think it's undetectable. Aduck2020 should be able to give the full analysis.

Subway Surfers wrote:

What's the glow time for this drug?

Glow time is zero. Can take same day as competition and test negative.

Speed Peptide Era B Tru wrote:

Subway Surfers wrote:

What's the glow time for this drug?

Glow time is zero. Can take same day as competition and test negative.

Interesting, and the price (unless these are fakes) is very cheap

Undetectable + low cost = widespread usage

(Though testosterone lozenges and androgel are also widespread)

Subway Surfers wrote:

Speed Peptide Era B Tru wrote:

Glow time is zero. Can take same day as competition and test negative.

Interesting, and the price (unless these are fakes) is very cheap

https://gopeps.com/items/igf-1-lr3/

Undetectable + low cost = widespread usage

(Though testosterone lozenges and androgel are also widespread)

noob!

Wait. Kejelcha joins NOP

Then a few months later several Ethiopians start running very fast.

Coincidence?

Did he speak to his Ethiopian friends about Al's training "methods"

12:43 for an 18-year-old and then he's not at all exhausted after?

Gimme a break

Subway Surfers wrote:

Speed Peptide Era B Tru wrote:

Glow time is zero. Can take same day as competition and test negative.

Interesting, and the price (unless these are fakes) is very cheap

https://gopeps.com/items/igf-1-lr3/

Undetectable + low cost = widespread usage

(Though testosterone lozenges and androgel are also widespread)

Cheap and not illegal as peptides are research chemicals. They all come from China.