NERunner053 wrote:
Are people seeing the same thing? 42 at the start, wind ENE 15-25mph the whole way. Real feel is mid-20s/low-30s. How are people dressing for this? Orginially thought I would be able to take a stab at sub-2:40 but I think sub-2:50 might actually be good based on the conditions.
Split shorts. No shirt. Suck it up buttercup.
yeah this is awful especially when you consider the sleet that's gonna be coming down all sunday. black ice for the win!
I'll run it and try to enjoy myself and definitely have a memorable experience cuz of the weather, but people saying this isn't too bad are deluding themselves. I'll be lucky to finish 10 minutes slower than what I'm in shape for. shrug.
angryjohnny wrote:
NERunner053 wrote:
Are people seeing the same thing? 42 at the start, wind ENE 15-25mph the whole way. Real feel is mid-20s/low-30s. How are people dressing for this? Orginially thought I would be able to take a stab at sub-2:40 but I think sub-2:50 might actually be good based on the conditions.
Split shorts. No shirt. Suck it up buttercup.
Lol.
I'm thinking split shorts, singlet, arm warmers, calf sleeves. I don't like to wear long sleeves/jackets/pants when racing.
I can’t stand the thought of carrying a wet shirt 26.2 Miles. Plus the chaffage factor would be unbearable.
biogen wrote:
yeah this is awful especially when you consider the sleet that's gonna be coming down all sunday. black ice for the win!
I'll run it and try to enjoy myself and definitely have a memorable experience cuz of the weather, but people saying this isn't too bad are deluding themselves. I'll be lucky to finish 10 minutes slower than what I'm in shape for. shrug.
I'm not trying to be Mr. Tough Guy here, but there is NOT gonna be any black ice on the course. It's not gonna be that cold...wind may make it tough though.
angryjohnny wrote:
I can’t stand the thought of carrying a wet shirt 26.2 Miles. Plus the chaffage factor would be unbearable.
Ya, bloody bunch of gobshites!
I saw Ronnie Hill of Manchester England, run a course record 2:10:30 in the snow and freezing rain in 1970.
He didn't whine about the weather, it reminded him of home.
All will be fine wrote:
biogen wrote:
I gotta wonder if they'll cancel if the course ends up being a sheet of ice
The current forecast isn’t bad. It’s not anything like what they forecasted 2007 right up to the morning of the race and it turned out fine by the time the race started.
I’ll take 2007 conditions over 2012 every time.
Yup, was there both those years - 2007 was my first and 2012 the last time.
2012 about killed me since I didn't back off enough for the heat, haven't been he same since.
Gonna be a death march . Just about to start sleeting . Won’t stop for 48 hours
Kevin52 wrote:
All will be fine wrote:
The current forecast isn’t bad. It’s not anything like what they forecasted 2007 right up to the morning of the race and it turned out fine by the time the race started.
I’ll take 2007 conditions over 2012 every time.
Yup, was there both those years - 2007 was my first and 2012 the last time.
2012 about killed me since I didn't back off enough for the heat, haven't been he same since.
The wait for the race in 2007 was the worst part. The race wasn't bad at all. You mentioned the heat, I don't feel like I ever recovered from my hot one at Boston too. Took something out that never came back.
In 2007 I remember sitting in the porto john in the village, freezing watching the walls move from the wind thinking WTF am I doing here.
Treat like a long training run, easy to moderate pace, and reload for a late spring race? I did 2 or 3 22 milers I’m training - so 26 following a two week taper at easy effort should be manageable and I can get 2-3 solid training weeks in before a truncated taper and go all in for a goal race. That’s how I’m leaning.
I’ll wait till the morning of (and hope for a clearing patch) and still following my taper, but I’m probably making it a fun run.
I’m 49, in shape for a PB, and won’t have many more shots at my PB ... been doing this for 12 years and have my first legit shot at a sub 3 (yeah - I’m a hobby-jogger) so that’s mostly why I’m leaning to delaying 5 weeks.
If you're getting Monday what we're getting in the midwest right now then it's going to be awful. It's not so much the sleet/ice pellets or even the rain, it's the wind. It's not a gusty wind that at least lets up at times. It's a constant 25 mph wind.
Also, it's now snowing horizontally here (Madison, Wi) but likely won't be cold enough there for snow.
TO slowpoke wrote:
Treat like a long training run, easy to moderate pace, and reload for a late spring race? I did 2 or 3 22 milers I’m training - so 26 following a two week taper at easy effort should be manageable and I can get 2-3 solid training weeks in before a truncated taper and go all in for a goal race. That’s how I’m leaning.
I’ll wait till the morning of (and hope for a clearing patch) and still following my taper, but I’m probably making it a fun run.
I’m 49, in shape for a PB, and won’t have many more shots at my PB ... been doing this for 12 years and have my first legit shot at a sub 3 (yeah - I’m a hobby-jogger) so that’s mostly why I’m leaning to delaying 5 weeks.
Just be prepared to race (dressed appropriately) in the conditions on Monday morning. It’s not going to be COLD like it is in TO ( whole city is covered in snow!).
Fyi
Boston is not a pb type course so even a fun run will be hard to recover from... unless you have a tailwind the whole way.
Older guy wrote:
Kevin52 wrote:
Yup, was there both those years - 2007 was my first and 2012 the last time.
2012 about killed me since I didn't back off enough for the heat, haven't been he same since.
The wait for the race in 2007 was the worst part. The race wasn't bad at all. You mentioned the heat, I don't feel like I ever recovered from my hot one at Boston too. Took something out that never came back.
In 2007 I remember sitting in the porto john in the village, freezing watching the walls move from the wind thinking WTF am I doing here.
I remember they let a few people into the school buildings that year. I, luckily was one of them.
I just shaved down any parts that will rub together. Gonna start applying Body Glide upon waking.
Suck it up, gang. Or go find another sport.
If you haven't done at least one long run in shitty weather this winter I feel sorry for you.
Staying in Natick, just went out for coffee. The wind is what's bad if there's rain tomorrow it'll really suck. Like the OP said dress appropriately and let's do it !!!!!
Wish they had a one day delay option. What's wrong with giving Tuesday off?
BUT
Most of my runs were in these conditions. Others skipped when the weather was bad. I'm looking forward to it. PR is on the table. If there's no crowds, I'll remember it as the fair weather spectator marathon.
You can shed your warmups at the last minute in the corral so what's the big deal about waiting.
I might wear an under shirt compression under singlet. Body glide. I got those trial nipguards at the fair, should I try them?
Ill take off the undershirt mid race if it starts pouring AND warms up.
I'll probably go with half tights in these conditions to keep hamstrings warm.
adsfada wrote:
If you're getting Monday what we're getting in the midwest right now then it's going to be awful. It's not so much the sleet/ice pellets or even the rain, it's the wind. It's not a gusty wind that at least lets up at times. It's a constant 25 mph wind.
Also, it's now snowing horizontally here (Madison, Wi) but likely won't be cold enough there for snow.
Not as bad...
foul weather runner wrote:
I might wear an under shirt compression under singlet. Body glide. I got those trial nipguards at the fair, should I try them?
Ill take off the undershirt mid race if it starts pouring AND warms up.
I'll probably go with half tights in these conditions to keep hamstrings warm.
What about me? How long can I last in my lawn chair cheering you own in the Newton hills with a sixer of Heines in scrappy weather?
Me and my cowbell will be gone home before most of you hobby joggers and charity pests waddle through Natick.
It used to be a "race" where you try to run fast and not just finish before dark.
I'd rather race in the conditions they will in Boston than in the heat Hawkins ran yesterday in Australia.
Heat good for sprints. Cold good to go long.