ok7272 wrote:
For a guy like kemboi, he's already won gold twice and a million other medals, he probably didn't want the bronze anyways. The French has probably never medaled before in the event, i can at least appreciate them wanting the bronze
Is this a serious post? You realize Mekhissi has "won" 3 medals in the steeplechase (2008,2012, and now 2016).
Everybody should tweet at Mekhissi something along the lines of "Good job placing 4th at the Olympics"
I've always liked Mehkessi because of his asshattery. Turns out he's actually an asshat
minong wrote:
French protest.
Editor's note: We have an article up now blasting the decision by the French to protest and for the IAAF for upholding the protest:
http://www.letsrun.com/news/2016/08/olympic-debacle-french-forgotten-olympics-supposed-ezekiel-kemboi-dqd-mens-steeple-protest/Whatever happened to sportsmanship?
Although I agree that this seems like a b.s. reason to disqualify a runner, I assume that the rule must be in the rulebook for some reason. Is there a reason why the rulebook doesn't limit a disqualification to scenarios in which the runner gains a perceivable advantage from a single step over the line?
That said, bronze-medal winner Mahiedine Mekhissi is a bitch for receiving his bronze in this way. He knows damn well that he wasn't the third-best runner in the race!
The end was very strange, it looked like Kemboi just jogged when he could have kicked to challenge Jager. Did he already know he'd be dq'd?
I thought Kemboi was moving up to marathon after the steeplechase. I really wanted to see what he can in marathon. He has the perfect body for it. Small, light with blistering speed.
minong wrote:
French protest.
Editor's note: We have an article up now blasting the decision by the French to protest and for the IAAF for upholding the protest:
http://www.letsrun.com/news/2016/08/olympic-debacle-french-forgotten-olympics-supposed-ezekiel-kemboi-dqd-mens-steeple-protest/Whatever happened to sportsmanship?
Why is this an issue of sportsmanship? Kemboi cut the course. He ran less than 3k. The problem isn't the French protesting. That is their right, just as it was the Americans right to protest Mead falling. The problem is Kemboi not being dqed immediately, instead of only after the protest. It doesn't matter how far into the race the infraction was or whether it affected the medals. If it did, then the rule would not be applied fairly in all circumstances. If this happened in an opening heat or with a non-contending runner, would you be complaining about sportsmanship if that runner were dqed for doing the same thing?
I sadly have to agree that the DQ from a technical standpoint especially if the officials taking a zero tolerance approach however this isn't neccecarily true d'agostino and hamblin qualified for finals (Which i personally think is amazing and is what the games are about). Personally I think it's not in the Olympic spirit. Regardless this continues to add to my opinion that mekhissi is the scum of the scum in the track world, and people who say this is comeuppance, two wrongs don't make a right. Just my 2 cents.
Brojos, to show your non-support for this please keep him un-dqed for the prediction contest.
boulevard wheat wrote:
Everybody should tweet at Mekhissi something along the lines of "Good job placing 4th at the Olympics"
Like this?
"Congratulations on your FOURTH place finish in the steeplechase.
4th
Quatrième
رابع
cuarto
quarto"
rules are rules wrote:
You can see the Mekhissi throw up three fingers several times at the finish line. He knew he would be third. Say what you want about him, I wouldn't feel too good about the medal either, but rules are rules and Kemboi definitely did not take the water jump the second time around. He goes over the barrier but lands inside the water jump. You can see a flag go up, I don't think anyone protested it.
Because, y'know, Muslims are such sticklers for track and field rules.
"Why is this an issue of sportsmanship? Kemboi cut the course. He ran less than 3k. The problem isn't the French protesting. That is their right, just as it was the Americans right to protest Mead falling. The problem is Kemboi not being dqed immediately, instead of only after the protest. It doesn't matter how far into the race the infraction was or whether it affected the medals. If it did, then the rule would not be applied fairly in all circumstances. If this happened in an opening heat or with a non-contending runner, would you be complaining about sportsmanship if that runner were dqed for doing the same thing?"
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You're Wrong Dude!
One foot being four inches over does not constitute running less than 3k - He didn't jump to the inside of the track, race around the cones, then pop back in. This is annal hair splitting at its worst! Look closely at the photo. Does that look intensional to you? Is that some kind of blatant flagrant selfish cut?
Horse$hit!
This guy has done nothing. How many times has that happened in the Olympics - 100's ? Should we then take back Millers "Win" in the Women's 400m due to the fact that she technically did not 'fully physically complete' the entire distance with her body laying across the line on the ground still after Felix's 'whole body crossed' and she completed the entire 400m distance before Miller did?
This is petty childish nit-picking trash! The French who filed the protest are simply pathetic and show their un-sportsmen-like conduct!
'Pierre de Coubertin' is ashamed and rolling over in his grave!
Rojo has the wrong spot in his frame freeze.
It was not after the water as shown in the picture, the infraction was for a long stretch after leaving the curbed track going into the water jump on that lap. Not one cone, many. And clearly to pass a group that he was behind, not just a bump with one guy.
EK ducked inside the cones, passes 4-5 people including Bennabad and Brimin Kipruto. Not cool. It probably did not affect the outcome, but he just stepped inside and passed an entire pack who had him boxed because they had worked harder to that point. Not clear he would have made it into the break if he had not scooted around that pack inside the cones. For example, Brimin Kipruto (another former gold medalist and a 7:55 guy) was in the group he went around, and Kipruto fought mightlily but failed to get into the breakaway.
No effect on Jager or C Kipruto who beat him anyway, fair and square.
And on another note... the Ugandan now has the world record for hardest faceplant into a barrier. Move over, Gunther Weidlinger.
And of course agreeing that Kemboi is the best of all time in the steeple, no question. And agreeing that filing a protest when you got beat by 50 m is poor sportsmanship (but so is making a clear off the track pass, though less so).
Mekkhissi's Wikipedia page has been edited
He actually did cut the cones, but even not counting that, since the 400m distance is measured 30 centimeters out from the curb, running inside the line means there's no way he could have run a 400m lap, and by extension 3k. Intention has nothing to do with it. Track officials are not mindreaders, they can only judge an athlete's actions. If a 200m sprinter steps on the outside line of the lane inside him on a curve, that sprinter is DQed because he/she has a) run in another runner's lane, and b) run less than 200m.
Les wrote:
The problem isn't the French protesting. That is their right, just as it was the Americans right to protest Mead falling. The problem is Kemboi not being dqed immediately, instead of only after the protest.
Absolutely right. The only scandal here is that it took a protest for the rules to be applied correctly.
Did a flag really go up during the race? In that case he should have been DQd immediately, WTF was the official in charge of the race doing !?
Any public pictures of that?
As for Mekhissi he got his European Gold from 2014 stolen by the Spanish for taking off his shirt before the line so you can see why he would have no qualms to file a protest with a guy cutting the course to pass him!
Anyway, couldn't find a schedule for the Medals Ceremony (amazing in this time and age), anyone know when it is?
Well don't worry. They are many Kenyans in the Olympics no matter what country they are racing for.
F France. It would put such trash on its team.
run4cover wrote:
As for Mekhissi he got his European Gold from 2014 stolen by the Spanish for taking off his shirt before the line so you can see why he would have no qualms to file a protest with a guy cutting the course to pass him!
He said exactly that. But I think it should be just the opposite: because he knows how unfair it was, he should not stoop to that level himself. You can't use other people's faults to justify yours.