New Allegations- "Salazar had bag of needles"

Good question. Is there a link about Stiner's wife calling BS on the rest of the story?

planet of the apes wrote:

Did the pill bottle that Kara Goucher has actually have anything still in it? What good is an EMPTY pill bottle? If it isn't empty why don't they just send whatever is in it to a lab to get tested? That whole thing sounds shady.

John Stiner's ex-wife, (who worked on Salazar's athletes at the same time) said that he is full of shit. She said that she never saw anything other than Androgel.

wejo wrote:

Fentrekker wrote:

I also have allergies, and I go in for shots. I cannot imagine a bona fide explanation where Rupp is being allowed to take allergy medication outside a doctor's office. That scenario just can't possibly add up.

He does travel a lot so that is a simple explanation.

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If Rupp needed the allergy medication so badly why did Salazar instruct Stiner to send it to his (Salazar's address, that's how I read it anyway) and not Rupp's?

"Stiner claims Salazar asked him to send the items to his home in Portland. Indeed, Stiner still has what he says was the shipping receipt for $150."

If Rupp needed allergy medication that badly it would have been quicker to go and get some more from his usual source, wouldn't it?

Nice try. Confidentiality rules don't apply to he cleaning out a drug lab.

Mr. No-Snitch wrote:

That massage therapist is a biatchhhhhhh!!!!!!!

What happened to client confidentiality? That's the end of his career treating elite athletes. Hope it was worth it for the 2 minutes of fame in a British tabloid.

*stipe wrote:

SO TO CLARIFY... ARGUABLY THE GREATEST DISTANCE RUNNER IN AMERICAN HISTORY (OLYMPIC MEDALIST, AMERICAN RECORD HOLDER) SUFFERED FROM ASTHMA, LOW TESTOSTERONE, ALLERGIES, THYROID, DEHYDRATION TO THE EXTENT THAT HE NEEDED MULTIPLE PRESCRIPTIONS, SYRINGES, INHALERS, IVS, MASKS, ETC... TO BECOME THE SUCCESSFUL CLEAN RUNNER THAT HE IS TODAY.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ post of the night.

Thanks for the cliff notes version. I always loved cliff notes in HS. When I read that, I a) laughted my ass off and b) thought, man they are so obvioiusly dirty when he states it like that.

Okay, I scanned through this entire thread. This is by far the best post. I can't believe nobody is talking about Stiner quoting Salazar that he was sharing the Androgel with Rupp. Recall the Epstein article said nothing about Salazar sharing it with Rupp. Neither did the BBC documentary. If the Dailymail had any credibility this is what you guys should be talking about. But the Dailymail very obviously falsified and printed a direct quote from a source. That is literally the worst journalism you can do. Pay no attention to it. If Stiner really did give testimony to the USADA than we should all know in time what he said from far more credible news sources.

Roelants wrote:

I wanted to hear more about the androgel. I did not want to just rely on the 2002 report, that seemed thin. This seems pretty bad. I am trying to figure out why Epstein left it out of his story.. Investigative reporting begets more reporting.

If I remember properly from the documentary, Kara's bottle still was unopened. It was thyroid med according to her. Getting it tested proves or disproves anything. The problem is with Salazar giving it to her.Ex wives aren't always nice to their ex husbands and often have an Axe to grill do of their own. Proof? No. Suggestive? Yes. But keep in mind we have not heard the testimony from the other athletes, so the BBC report is not the only evidence.

planet of the apes wrote:

Did the pill bottle that Kara Goucher has actually have anything still in it? What good is an EMPTY pill bottle? If it isn't empty why don't they just send whatever is in it to a lab to get tested? That whole thing sounds shady.

John Stiner's ex-wife, (who worked on Salazar's athletes at the same time) said that he is full of shit. She said that she never saw anything other than Androgel.

planet of the apes wrote:

Did the pill bottle that Kara Goucher has actually have anything still in it? What good is an EMPTY pill bottle? If it isn't empty why don't they just send whatever is in it to a lab to get tested? That whole thing sounds shady.

John Stiner's ex-wife, (who worked on Salazar's athletes at the same time) said that he is full of shit. She said that she never saw anything other than Androgel.

Stiner told us about this story at the time. I haven't talked to Sarah about it.

ryan foreman wrote:

Okay, I scanned through this entire thread. This is by far the best post. I can't believe nobody is talking about Stiner quoting Salazar that he was sharing the Androgel with Rupp. Recall the Epstein article said nothing about Salazar sharing it with Rupp. Neither did the BBC documentary.

If the Dailymail had any credibility this is what you guys should be talking about. But the Dailymail very obviously falsified and printed a direct quote from a source. That is literally the worst journalism you can do. Pay no attention to it.

If Stiner really did give testimony to the USADA than we should all know in time what he said from far more credible news sources.

Hey Ryan Foreman, you read the article too fast. Read it again. It states Salazar was sharing the room with Rupp, not the Androgel.

ryan foreman wrote:

But the Dailymail very obviously falsified and printed a direct quote from a source. That is literally the worst journalism you can do. Pay no attention to it.

If Stiner really did give testimony to the USADA than we should all know in time what he said from far more credible news sources.

Call me thick but what was "obviously falsified and printed" and a "direct quote" from what "source"?

ryan foreman wrote:

Okay, I scanned through this entire thread.

Try reading it and the links and doing it with a bit of comprehension helps too.

The Plot Thickens wrote:

If Rupp needed the allergy medication so badly why did Salazar instruct Stiner to send it to his (Salazar's address, that's how I read it anyway) and not Rupp's?

Because it wasn't allergy medication?

If you were an Anglophile, you'd know that the Daily Mail is considered far below birdcage fodder. Google: Russell Brand on The Daily Mail, and watch the crowd laugh and agree en masse what shite it is, seriously also google" reputation of TDM.

Mr. No-Snitch wrote:

That massage therapist is a biatchhhhhhh!!!!!!!

What happened to client confidentiality? That's the end of his career treating elite athletes. Hope it was worth it for the 2 minutes of fame in a British tabloid.

Have they all admitted they were paid to appear on camera yet?

By law they must be paid, if they sit down to give an interview to a show like that.

SAG/AFTRA

Forget about Mo, Al-Sal and Rupps comments.

They are going to be spinning it to the end.

What is interesting is the evidence from good sources. Since there is jealousy and animosity toward prick elitist Al-Sal (nice guy if you are in his "league") some of the info coming out needs to be inspected thoroughly.

What we have here is a "normal" quazi-legal light-weight PED program.

Seems like Al-Sal was quite sloppy at times, but he's not the brightest of guys, none of them in T&F are actually. i mean who in their right mind would do this kind of sheit for a living? then again, insanity seems to rule these days.

i mean. the only excuse for track and field is to study the body and the science, not run around in circles to get your ego stroked, to have a legacy and all that bullshit.

Mr. No-Snitch wrote:

ILL Eagle wrote:

Client confidentiality doesn't protect evildoers from statements people who worked for them can make. Only attorneys trying to protect guilty clients can claim client confidentiality.

Not so sure about that. He could be in trouble with his regulatory body. Client information needs to be kept confidential. No crime was commited. Hopefully he consulted with his association and regulatory body before spilling the beans.

About the only thing the State of Oregon is good at regulating is...well, nothing.

The state culture of CA and WA, are more alike than the state culture of Oregon.

First mistake was hiring a dude massage therapist.

Smart people know you hire a large short, black, lesbian massage therapist.

Lesbians can keep a secret. And that other stuff, all about leverage, strong arms, soft hands, best massages ever.

Steven hitchman wrote:

let's get out of here!! wrote:

I also found this weird. I have no theory really, potentially dodging drug test?

Yeah... Or maybe Stiner is lying his face off. Who would leave all of that stuff, especially secretive stuff like that, in a condo that would be cleaned out by someone else?

If AlSal is really so secretive and closed off to his own group, then I find it hard to believe that he would not be way too paranoid to let some guy he just met mail him his EPO and testosterone. Just doesn't seem to quite add up.

I know, right? He's also said to be a control freak, not leave anything to chance. So he just leaves that shit around for anyone to find.

Clearly they partied the last night there. Kara picked up a travel bottle of AS meds, for later "purposes," "research" and sht got messed about. AS slept through his alarm, because he had a 3rd glass of wine (you know, for the "reverital) and had to rush to pack. All the real insiders know that the extra needles were for AS aromatherapy essential oils to be injected into local Oregon artisan soy candles, to create a calm atmosphere for GR to drift off to sleep in his altitude tent.

Geez, duh.

A britisher wrote:

If you were an Anglophile, you'd know that the Daily Mail is considered far below birdcage fodder.

For Anglophile's and non-Anglophile's here are some links on the Daily Mail's Chief Sports Writer and current Sports Journalist of the Year of whom the UK Press Award Judges said:

"The winner had an outstanding year. He produced three fantastic and thoughtfully written exclusives."

"Gatlin himself never accused... (the massage therapist), which why the self sainted joblos have accused him of doing so.

Evidence not in court documents.

Can I get a grain milling machine or moving help in Dubai here?

Randy Oldman wrote:

Mr. No-Snitch wrote:

That massage therapist is a biatchhhhhhh!!!!!!!

What happened to client confidentiality? That's the end of his career treating elite athletes. Hope it was worth it for the 2 minutes of fame in a British tabloid.

He was cleaning the room, not checking out Galen's hemorrhoids.

1. He was not a maid. He wasn't cleaning the room. He was retrieving items for an employer.

2. Galen is likely far too young for hemorrhoids. Don't project your sht and ashole on to other people. Get it?