rojo--
Do you honestly believe that Bush is "gone" and wields no influence?
Of course I have no idea if he intervened or not, but to suggest that he COULD not is the height of naivete. The federal prosecutorial ranks are not very large, and not very independent, contrary to what you might believe.
rojo wrote:
It got dropped in 2011 maybe even 2012. Bush was long gone.
as a matter of fact, I think it was Clinton (Bill). Yes, long gone but still very influential.
several people have mentioned that LA is doing this so he can compete in 2013...
How competitive can he still be a 43yo? Or is it purely an appearance-fee motive...?(which I can't imagine carries much weight($) after this)
OR.... Does he wanted to be cleared to compete in 2013 because he can be competitive because he has access to a new generation of PEDs (potentially the likes of which are fueling stellar performances (time/age) in track/roads at the moment?).
So I have not read all of this thread so maybe it was brought up before but I while I do not support what he did I do wonder this...
Had he not won all of those tours, would livestrong have raised up to $500,000,000 towards cancer research? How many lives have been saved by this organization that was started by a cancer survivor and someone who "cheated" when everyone else was doing it.
more lies...he's lied about what he took, that it wasn't any more of sophisticated program, that he didn't pressure teammates, refused to implicate Ferrari, denies the Tour de Swiss positive, and Betsy Andreau's deposition.
SO everyone else was lying and Lance is suddenly telling the truth about these things? Sure. I don't understand why you would do a tell all interview and not tell all.
trance dance turn in shawowski wrote:
several people have mentioned that LA is doing this so he can compete in 2013...
How competitive can he still be a 43yo? Or is it purely an appearance-fee motive...?(which I can't imagine carries much weight($) after this)
OR.... Does he wanted to be cleared to compete in 2013 because he can be competitive because he has access to a new generation of PEDs (potentially the likes of which are fueling stellar performances (time/age) in track/roads at the moment?).
He has said he wants to be the fittest 42 year old on the planet. He wants to be on the podium at Kona or win some other triathlon. He is insanely competitive and that is his life. Without racing he has little to fall back on.
Time to flip channels over to the Lakers-Heat game to watch the epitome of clean athletes.
Really? I was completely unimpressed to be honest.
She did a terrible job going after him. He was let off the hook too often and she never followed thru and tried to catch him in lies or double meanings.
She would make a terrible cross examiner, and thats what was needed today.
LA is a snake, and you need a snake catcher to really show him up as a cheater.
Johnson9.30 wrote:
Anyone else's first time watching Opera?
You mean Oprah? It is mine. She's actually a very good interviewer. I don't think she has made this easy for him at all. In fact, she's asking all the questions I would have.
Possibility: get 100% out of the woods(everything legal behind him), get hopped-up on whatever is on the market now, make another comeback. I think this fits the thumbing-his-nose mentality (or "on the offensive") that he has shown in the past.
Johnson9.30 wrote:
Anyone else's first time watching Opera?
No I have never been to the opera
But it was my second time watching Oprah
"I agree. I don't care what he took. He is a talent and most people in his position would have done exactly the same thing."
Sorry he is an awful human being. I hope the people who he defamed and bullied can sue him for millions. Actually, I hopes he sits in jail. That would be justice.
djehsso wrote:
So I have not read all of this thread so maybe it was brought up before but I while I do not support what he did I do wonder this...
Had he not won all of those tours, would livestrong have raised up to $500,000,000 towards cancer research? How many lives have been saved by this organization that was started by a cancer survivor and someone who "cheated" when everyone else was doing it.
They have spent very little money towards research and now spend none.
So, tell us how lance actually impacted you, or are you bandwagon?
Korean Doodie wrote:
"I agree. I don't care what he took. He is a talent and most people in his position would have done exactly the same thing."
Sorry he is an awful human being. I hope the people who he defamed and bullied can sue him for millions. Actually, I hopes he sits in jail. That would be justice.
bladerunner wrote:
You mean Oprah? It is mine. She's actually a very good interviewer. I don't think she has made this easy for him at all. In fact, she's asking all the questions I would have.
Yes I meant Oprah. I completely agree with you. And she looks great for 58 years old.
Honestly, now I think how easy it was for Viren, Bekele Etc and so on
hate to tell folks, But this is not much different in T& F
lol
Believe me, he's not 100% out of the woods--not even close.
And yes, there are other things today from which even geriatrics like me can, and do benefit--but when a 42-yr-old doper is competing against a 22-yr-old doper, you know who's going to win.
where is all this gonna end? Is there any possibility that he could lose everything....... There's so much entangled in lance Armstrong's lie.
Sprintgeezer wrote:
feasible--
Wow, you STILL don't get it! Incredible.
How old are you, 12?
Speaking of which, listening to Lance is like listening to a young boy speak, same old stuff you get when parenting, with a kid who's done wrong and who knows he's screwed, but who still doesn't have the strength of character that we expect from adults.
The kid has an excuse, but Lance is just, well, pathetic--just the same as all those other people I've named over the years on these threads, and who the immature see as "heroes".
Sidebar: Sprintgeezer, when you stop posting any posts here that seem like they are from a drunk 12 year old...then you can use that dig.
Look for a better one.
Tommy2Nuttz wrote:
She would make a terrible cross examiner, and thats what was needed today.
He's been cross-examined dozens of times, and never admitted what he did tonight. What was needed tonight was Oprah -- a gentle, generally-respected, competent interviewer, who was going to ask good questions but not attack him. He has never responded to attacks previously, and tonight wouldn't have been any different.