Yeah, but Boston is always going to have that asterisk problem with the tailwind and that point-to-point course thing.This was a ratifiable course.
Augusto E. Perez wrote:
rojo wrote:Yes the deepest ever. I think the most ever under 210 was 14. Here 17 did it. Hell 14 guys here broke 2:08!!
Fastest places ever for spots #3-15 from what I can tell.
Gebremariam was third in Boston at 2:04:53
A little off topic, but the 1991 London race had the best times for place from 28th to 105th with the 105th guy under 2:20. That's pretty good.
http://www.arrs.net/BT_Mara.htm
Wonder if anyone has the footage. That lead pack must have been insane!
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Sarcastic Third Tit wrote:
Yeah, but Boston is always going to have that asterisk problem with the tailwind and that point-to-point course thing.
Therefore, no.
The times here count and are the fastest for places.
That's why I'm discounting Gebremariam for all-time 3rd place.
not a legal course wrote:
Sarcastic Third Tit wrote:Yeah, but Boston is always going to have that asterisk problem with the tailwind and that point-to-point course thing.
Therefore, no.
The times here count and are the fastest for places.
Given the course and the pacers, this course is probably close to being as fast as Boston was this year. The assistance of the wind has been significantly overstated, in part because the strength of the wind has been significantly overstated. At the runner's torso it was probably less then 10mph and likely averaged more like 6-8mph. A good wind, but not that strong. Add to that the pacers here (wind in and of itself plus the 'moral support') and the lack of turns or any declivity and you have a course that is very fast in fast conditions.
To answer the question about humidity, with temperatures in the mid-50s and a dew point in the upper 40s (about 48, I think, given the reported RH of 82%), there is really very little effect due to cooling limitations. You probably do see a fair bit of seat accumulated on the guys, however. If they look dry than it was almost perfect weather.
Sarcastic Third Tit wrote:
That's why I'm discounting Gebremariam for all-time 3rd place.
Same here. I'm adding at least 2 minutes to the Boston times, and that's unofficially. Hall ran 2:05 -2s at Boston and only 2:09+ at the trials getting beat. That's a 4 minute difference, plus he could only manage a 4:17 mile.
Personally I feel aided courses should not be acceptable for any all time lists or qualifications. Separate lists are fine, as is done with sprints and other events.
J.R. wrote:
I'm adding at least 2 minutes to the Boston times, and that's unofficially. Hall ran 2:05 -2s at Boston
Yeah that's 2:04:58 in the real world bro. Next time you run a 39:56 10k just tell people you ran a 40:00 -4s douchebag.
I <3 Tacos wrote:
J.R. wrote:I'm adding at least 2 minutes to the Boston times, and that's unofficially. Hall ran 2:05 -2s at Boston
Yeah that's 2:04:58 in the real world bro. Next time you run a 39:56 10k just tell people you ran a 40:00 -4s douchebag.
Okay then, it's 2:09 -4 1/2. Feel better now.