Dr. Wade Hexum has all kinds of evidence and test results showing lots of athletes were doping, in particular Jackie Joyner-Kersee. Go look him up. He’ll set you straight. He was the USOC Director for doping control.
Documents purporting to show that a number of American athletes were allowed to compete in the Olympics after failing drug tests prove long-held suspicions of U.S. drug cover-ups, official says.
BLACK PAGE for Sydney, please. It's the real world record.
I am not so sure - Koch ran on slower track surfaces and wore primitive Adidas spikes in comparison and so under today's condition I would imagine that Koch would be closer to 47 secs ...
SML's run was also on a wet track at sea level...phenominal race and nice to see her finally put that WC record 47.99 of Jarmila K. to bed...
BLACK PAGE for Sydney, please. It's the real world record.
I am not so sure - Koch ran on slower track surfaces and wore primitive Adidas spikes in comparison and so under today's condition I would imagine that Koch would be closer to 47 secs ...
+1
The surface in Canberra back then was Rekortan which distance runners liked, much softer than the Mondo carpet of Tokyo. And Koch ran a relay leg and 200 the previous day and the WR in lane 2. Koch would have been a second ahead of Sydney if she was in the lane next to her last night, in modern spikes.
Good looking runner from the world's dirtiest, most cheating nation runs a time only ever beaten by cyborg doped mixed chromosome runners from a communist dictatorship and some of you are believing it's real.
Good looking runner from the world's dirtiest, most cheating nation runs a time only ever beaten by cyborg doped mixed chromosome runners from a communist dictatorship and some of you are believing it's real.
40 years later*
Sydney is a generational talent
Are you really surprised someone has finally approached it four decades on?
I am not so sure - Koch ran on slower track surfaces and wore primitive Adidas spikes in comparison and so under today's condition I would imagine that Koch would be closer to 47 secs ...
SML's run was also on a wet track at sea level...phenominal race and nice to see her finally put that WC record 47.99 of Jarmila K. to bed...
What I noticed yesterday was that SML's form did not change at all, even in the last 50m.
Paulino and naser had arms swinging as you would expect.
So this means Syd has better speed endurance, derived from better core strength.
Is this better gym work / more drugs? I honestly don't know.
But I do know that's the main difference between her and the other two.
She's always had a big, strong, wide jaw-line. It doesn't look any different now, beyond the fact that she's obviously heavier and 'thicker' than she was in high school --like pretty much everyone else.
And she was already an epochal prodigy in junior high, for Chrissake. So if you think her performances come from 'roids, you'd probably have to figure she started on them in 5th grade or so --which seems highly doubtful.
She obviously has lots of advantages over anyone from the 70s, and even over lots of her competitors now, but we *know* for sure Koch and Krat and Bryzgina and all the rest were 'roided up the wazoo, and there's no chance in hell they would've run anything close to what they did without it. Just like the girls in 'Ma's Army.'
Of course it's *possible* Syd's on something --it's possible *anyone's* on something.
But we've got no good reason to believe that, and lots of reason to think she's one of the very greatest talents and performers there's ever been in the sport.
And yeah, the association with Kersee and his people makes me somewhat uncomfortable, too. But that doesn't prove anything, and when that's really the *only* reason we've got to doubt her, that ain't good enough.
She gets the benefit of the doubt, and all the credit she deserves for being one of the real gods of the sport for what she's accomplished.
When I and other folks suggested a couple of years ago that she *might* be capable of taking a serious run at Koch's mark, most of the guys here said that was ridiculous, and she'd never get close. Tonight makes it clear she's absolutely capable of it, and if she wanted to spend all next year just aiming for that and plan 6 or serious cracks at it, she'd very likely get it.
The same idiots said a couple years before that that she'd never crack 52 in the hurdles.
I suggested back then that she'd not only blow through 52, but it wasn't completely crazy to think she might eventually crack 51. It took her 2 or 3 years from that point, I think.
She choked in Rio. So what? She was 16 freaking years old. Since that day, I don't think she's ever had another championship performance that was less than *incredible*.
She's an all-time great among all-time greats. She's in the freaking Pantheon.
Unless there's ever some actual *evidence*, you should relish the privilege of watching her, and leave her the f*** alone.
The most important question is where does this put McLaughlin-Levrone on the list of ALL-TIME American women's sprinters? Of course she is unquestionably the greatest 400 meter hurdler, but I think everyone has a little bit more respect for the flat events. Well, now she has just demolished the American record and won perhaps the greatest women's 400 meter race of all time. With this run, she has now arguably taken the baton from the legendary Alison Felix as the most versatile sprinter ever. She needs a few more medals to pass Felix on the GOAT list, but with a world record (which I think may be inevitable at this point) and an Olympic gold in the 400, not only would she pass Felix, she'd be in FloJo territory.
She's much better than Felix. And, unlike with Sydney, there's *lots* of reason to think Flo-Jo was a flagrant drug-cheat. (Starting with her sudden severe body-change late in her career, and accompanying steep drop in times.)
Sydney's had no sudden body change, didn't grow big pecs and traps and delts all of a sudden like FloJo did, and has made slow, steady improvements over the course of 10 years.
FloJo shouldn't even be in the discussion --except maybe with a *giant* asterix, like Barry Bonds.
And Syd did what she did tonight in her *off*-event, for Chrissake.
She's the best there's ever been, and it's not all that close.
World class in teens - what like Asbel Kiprop world junior champ or Lance Armstron who turned pro at 16. They have to be extremely good but that only takes you so far
======================================================= Marion Jones set a 15-year-old world age group record with a time of 11.13 seconds in the 100 meters.
If you had at least some idea what you were talking about, you'd know that Lance actually proves the *opposite* of your point. He was nothing special as a teen, and suddenly jumped to the pinnacle when he started taking everything there was to take.
You're an idiot troll, like all idiot trolls, just looking to piss people off --without caring at all whether their 'argument' holds any water.
This is the first time I see Paulino running through the line.
Paulino could have won this race if she would have dared (or be able) to run as close to the inner line in the second curve as Sydney did.
Paulino could have won this with even just a different lane. Sydney said she had the advantage of being able to watch Paulino on her outside. The stars aligned for Sydney.
Shade from Paulino in an interview, re competing more regularly. Made me chuckle.
Paulino could have won this with even just a different lane. Sydney said she had the advantage of being able to watch Paulino on her outside. The stars aligned for Sydney.
Shade from Paulino in an interview, re competing more regularly. Made me chuckle.
LOL, it wasn’t lucky star alignment. Lane assignments for the final are based on how athletes perform in the semis. Paulino got lane 9 because the time she ran in the semis was the second-slowest among the finalists. Sydney got the preferred lane 5 because she ran the fastest time in the semis.
If Paulino wanted a more advantageous lane for the final, she should have run harder in her semi. Championship 400m racing isn’t only about what athletes do in the final. It’s also about what they do in the rounds.