Trackflation so bad people are getting clowned on for running 1:47s
No. I was simply hoping that he would get in a fast semi final and get the US championship qualifying time, so that he could extend his running career by one month or so.
He had a great progression in the past couple of years. Would have liked to see how fast he could go.
I didn’t see the race, but from the split times, it looks like he was caught behind a fall on the first lap and that he pushed to catch up, but never got there. Simply assuming here
He went to the rear and stayed there and made up some ground in last 200 but not enough to get a Q. I do not recall a trip up.
No. I was simply hoping that he would get in a fast semi final and get the US championship qualifying time, so that he could extend his running career by one month or so.
He had a great progression in the past couple of years. Would have liked to see how fast he could go.
I didn’t see the race, but from the split times, it looks like he was caught behind a fall on the first lap and that he pushed to catch up, but never got there. Simply assuming here
He went to the rear and stayed there and made up some ground in last 200 but not enough to get a Q. I do not recall a trip up.
Why was he so far back at 400m? He was 0.33s behind the guy in 7th at 400!! But, yes it does not look like anybody fell on lap 1.
Tuohy had the fastest last 400m of the entire field. Simply looks like something went wrong for him on lap 1.
...and one of the examples why they haven't held the Olympics at an altitude of 7,400 ever again. Robbed Ryun and propped up an Olympic Record for 57 years.
He went to the rear and stayed there and made up some ground in last 200 but not enough to get a Q. I do not recall a trip up.
Why was he so far back at 400m? He was 0.33s behind the guy in 7th at 400!! But, yes it does not look like anybody fell on lap 1.
Tuohy had the fastest last 400m of the entire field. Simply looks like something went wrong for him on lap 1.
I wouldn’t assume that anything “went wrong” for him on lap 1. His strategy was probably to sit at the back for the first lap and try to mow down guys folding in the last 200. The race wound up being a little odd I think, with Whitmarsh slowing it from 300-600 and then pushing again, so it was more crowded and there was less rigging than you’d expect from a straight time trial.
Anyway, if his name wasn’t Tuohy we wouldn’t be talking about him right? He had the second slowest PB in his semi and shouldn’t have been expected to make the final. To run 1:46 and qualify for Nationals was a shocking breakthrough for a guy who was running 1:54s for Fordham 3 years ago.
I wouldn’t assume that anything “went wrong” for him on lap 1. His strategy was probably to sit at the back for the first lap and try to mow down guys folding in the last 200. The race wound up being a little odd I think, with Whitmarsh slowing it from 300-600 and then pushing again, so it was more crowded and there was less rigging than you’d expect from a straight time trial.
Anyway, if his name wasn’t Tuohy we wouldn’t be talking about him right? He had the second slowest PB in his semi and shouldn’t have been expected to make the final. To run 1:46 and qualify for Nationals was a shocking breakthrough for a guy who was running 1:54s for Fordham 3 years ago.
He should not even be racing. He is a 7th year senior who completed 4 years undergrad then trained with a pro team for 2 years.
Farce said - I really can’t stand imported ready made Africans being the lifeblood of a program. A unwillingness to commit to development shows cowardice from the coach (looking directly at you Darren Gauson and Brian Maty).
But Farce you assume that Gauson or Maty care about developing athletes given they don't. They want to buy African's and win titles taking a shortcut. They are not smart enough to have figured out people will not respect them for doing this. They believe they will get accolades for having already developed African's do well. Coaches in the NCAA will never respect them.
Watching NCAA cross country and distance events is like watching African championships. The 5k will be exactly the same. It's not remotely interesting and has to be demoralizing for American runners, who don't stand a chance.
Graham Blanks has won the past 2 NCAA cross championships. Nico Young won both indoor distance races last year.
And the Africans went 1-2-3 in the women's CC. Indoor doesn't count. A lot of very good runners skip the indoor season. Look at the NM roster on their website. Not a single American in distance - men or women. But lets not pretend Caucasians remotely stand a chance. There is the rare oddity of a Galen Rupp or Grant Fisher. But even in those races, they are surrounded by Africans. In the NCAA, we aren't see the best African runners. The really good ones turn pro at 18.
Most are very high on Appleton tonight but she is another one who has to get the tactics right. Recall Indoors she literally got bounced out of the mile and 3000 m races. She has a tendency to hang way back and never get into a good spot in the championship meets. In lesser meets she is so good she can just easily outrun everyone. I hope she gets this right as she is due.
This should be a lesson: shoving people aside did nothing for Nick Plant anyway. He wasted too much energy that should be spent on forward momentum, plus he got DQ'd. Even though he was in a bad spot, his only hope was to wait for things to open up in front of him. He probably wasn't going to be top 2 anyway, but he messed up Hassan's race, and Hassan could've gotten there, IMO.
There's a difference between shoving people and a little bit of elbowing though. "friendly elbowing"
A distance runner will have to explain the distance mentality of sit and kick to me. Every runner in the first heat has run 10 seconds faster than the winning time. Why not just at your fullest capacity and try to PR, instead of intentionally running slow and missing out on finals.
It makes sense when you either:
1. Have the best kick (easy win)
2. Are not as good as the other guys (gives you a chance you wouldn't otherwise have)
The problem is everyone thinks they have the best kick until it turns out they don't. If you're the fastest runner in the field... RUN FAST.
Dude. If they didn't make it out of the prelim, they were just not good enough. Enough with these poor excuses. "Oh if they made it faster...." it wouldn't have changed anything
You win the dumbest thing I'll read today award (hopefully)
I really can’t stand imported ready made Africans being the lifeblood of a program. A unwillingness to commit to development shows cowardice from the coach (looking directly at you Darren Gauson and Brian Maty).
Not everyone can develop US talent like Jack Carroll, but I think Darren and Brian are doing a great job developing the athletes they get. Is it really their fault if they happen to get athletes that are already very good? Sounds like a skill issue in recruiting to me. Cope and seethe haters.
