She already ran a 15:03 on a standard 400m track after she had started to wear down last year. So hardly a difficult extrapolation. When she won XC and in January and February she was in sub-15 shape.
Let's not do the "in sub-15 shape." Bill Parcells used to say your record is what your record says it is. Let's see her run sub-15 before saying she can run it. Scott Fauble, before a recent big marathon, said he has been in 2:07 shape many times. Of course he ran nowhere close to 2:07. He is a 2:11 marathoner. NOT a 2:07 marathoner. Your record is what your record says it is.
She already ran a 15:03 on a standard 400m track after she had started to wear down last year. So hardly a difficult extrapolation. When she won XC and in January and February she was in sub-15 shape.
Let's not do the "in sub-15 shape." Bill Parcells used to say your record is what your record says it is. Let's see her run sub-15 before saying she can run it. Scott Fauble, before a recent big marathon, said he has been in 2:07 shape many times. Of course he ran nowhere close to 2:07. He is a 2:11 marathoner. NOT a 2:07 marathoner. Your record is what your record says it is.
I think you are being a bit picky. She did not run 15:03 when she was supposedly in "sub 15" shape. She ran 8:35 when she supposedly was in "sub 15" shape. But if you want to describe her, she is a "15:03" 5000 m runner as that is her best.
I have not read all 9 pages of this thread. What I have read does not mention what her contract with Adidas pays her. Running seems to be the one sport where contract amounts are never discussed. Why is that? For example, how much is Adidas paying Tigist Assefa? How much is Nike paying Sifan Hassan? I never hear the numbers. Very strange.
You are lacking in competency. They are referring to her avoiding defeat at the collegiate level again, so that those defeats will not further diminish her value in the eyes of potential sponsors. Does this make sense now?
They are not referring to her avoiding defeat in general. Otherwise, she would avoid the Diamond League, and even being willing to go professional would effectively be off the table because it would contradict her stance on avoiding stiff competition.
Again, the previous point you failed to comprehend was that she is avoiding further losses to Valby and others at the collegiate level before she goes pro, so that she can cash in before her value drops further.
They are strictly speaking from a dollars and cents standpoint, really nothing to get upset about.
Why do so many of you obsess over these two people anyway?
Grown men don't obsess over this, and it truly is pathetic.
Agreed. There's a difference between saying 'I think I could have run a 3:59 mile because I ran a 1:49 800, 7:59 3000 (hell, a 3:39 1500 would also easily have sufficed)' vs 'I only have run 4:05 but it was poorly paced so I could have run 3:59'
Tuohy knew she was going pro. The only reason to run BU would have been to knock out one more collegiate record. If she and Henes did want ti do that, or ready for it, there was no reason to run at all.
She already ran a 15:03 on a standard 400m track after she had started to wear down last year. So hardly a difficult extrapolation. When she won XC and in January and February she was in sub-15 shape.
Let's not do the "in sub-15 shape." Bill Parcells used to say your record is what your record says it is. Let's see her run sub-15 before saying she can run it. Scott Fauble, before a recent big marathon, said he has been in 2:07 shape many times. Of course he ran nowhere close to 2:07. He is a 2:11 marathoner. NOT a 2:07 marathoner. Your record is what your record says it is.
Bill's quote was a little off in that while your record is what is, it may or may bot reflect your actual ceiling or outlook. The steelers were 7-5, and are one of yhe worst teams ever. Chargers, bills sitting behind! So I'll roll with bills upside a million days out of a million. And, maybe KT has only begun. Women clearly have diff trajectory than men. What was Monson running at 20?
Bringing up the elite Americans does not make for positive predictions for Tuohy. Monson, Schweizer, Coburn, anf Frerichs were running low mileage in high school and were not elite. They made huge improvements. If you want to look at runers who were elite at a young age and see how they have fared, look at Cain, Ping, Lane, and Effraimson.
Bringing up the elite Americans does not make for positive predictions for Tuohy. Monson, Schweizer, Coburn, anf Frerichs were running low mileage in high school and were not elite. They made huge improvements. If you want to look at runers who were elite at a young age and see how they have fared, look at Cain, Ping, Lane, and Effraimson.
I'm usually the one raising the issue of how few teen and hs stars make it in college and pro, but plenty do quite well.
Mary Decker, Kim Gallagher, Suzy Favor, Elise Cranny, Rae yn Rogers, Athing Mu, Addy Wiley, Molly Huddle, Chanelle Price, Sarah Bei Hall, Ajee Wilson and Molly Seidel were all youth stars before making national teams. Even Mary Cain made a world team and world final. Not always easily, but they got there.