What do you hear about Geb? I hear good things but it’s hard to think he didn’t
What do you hear about Geb? I hear good things but it’s hard to think he didn’t
I would rather have the power to determine who is one hundred percent clean with certainty by todays standards. There has been a lot of grey areas in the past...............
Koch has been proven and we know FloJo did too
It’s been proven and they should remove it
wejo
On a serious note: Eliud Kipchoge.
Kinda surprised some people think Jim Ryun and Seb Coe were possibly doping in the pre-Epogen era. Assuming for the sake of argument that this were true, what substances would they have been taking?
Typical: amphetamines since the 50s, steroids since the 60s, blood transfusions since the 70s (and Epo since the 90s). I believe the Soviets et al. went hardcore in the early/mid 70s, the rest is history.
A genie wrote:
Expanding off the subject:
- Assume the public knows you received this power and HAS TO accept what you find out (and you are required to truthfully share it). Basically, these message boards can't be full of posts saying you're lying or "how can we trust the magic actually worked?"
- You would also learn how each instance of PEDs got in athlete X's body (for the cases like Shelby's, Gatlin, Ajee Wilson, etc.), and where they got it from. This could potentially expose a dirty coach / agent as well.
- You can pick an active or retired athlete.
- WA and any other organizations are still free to do whatever they want after learning this information. They will also treat it as fact.
Curious how many people here would use this power to go after something they think was doping vs. try to prove their favorite athlete was clean? Keep in mind, the answer you get might be the opposite of what you were hoping for!
Grant Fisher
The only thing that Nick Willis was ever on was Weetabix cereal.
Yes, who is clean wrote:
I would rather have the power to determine who is one hundred percent clean with certainty by todays standards. There has been a lot of grey areas in the past...............
It won't be anyone you have heard of.
Bolt, Kipchoge of course. Paula Radcliffe.
But also Shalane Flanagan. My running hero as a kid, and now tainted by Shelby. Was she clean? It seems very possible she was, but I'd like to know.
But I think I'm even more curious about Greg Lemond, supposedly the only clean cyclist ever, and Vingegaard.
Monson
Weldon Johnson
Honestly I gotta go with Seb Coe ca. 1:41.73. That’s by no means saying he’s the most likely big name doper, but I would find the answer more interesting/enlightening than to know if El G for example was doping.
bladerunner wrote:
Lasse Viren. Lydiard was adamant that Viren was clean. But he wins double olympic gold twice and very little else.
Definitely Lasse, to prove all the bitter, jealous losers wrong.
Shelby. Have spent the most mindshare debating if she doped or not
parkerclay wrote:
We all know Koch and Kratchilova doped so why waste them. I feel the same way about FloJo but it should shut up a bunch of ignorant/blind fans. I think I would choose Geb bc if he doped then all the great distance runners after prob did too. If not, then there’s a little hope
this-anybody from the old East Bloc or 80s sprinters would be really wasteful since doping was rampant in that era with limited testing out of competition--that Seoul 100m final was dirty except perhaps Calvin Smith and the Brazilian Da Silva...Benroid took the fall by getting popped; here's hoping that Geb was clean...curious about Donovan Bailey--came out of close to nowhere in '95 winning Worlds 100m-I would like to hope that it was Dan Pfaff's coaching when they hooked up in 1994...
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Carl Lewis. He's always been quick to criticize others without proof and I find him unlikeable for this reason. If he was being a hypocrite, I would like to see it exposed.