Alberto Salazar BANNED For Life for "Sexual Misconduct"

Does free speech really exist if you cant call a fat woman fat.

Kobbs Hessler wrote:

This article lists zero examples of sexual misconduct by Alberto. It gives two examples of him saying two female runners were overweight. Is that it??? Seriously. Insane.

If the article doesn't have the details of the charges how can it be expected to list them?

OozmaKappa wrote:

Does free speech really exist if you cant call a fat woman fat.

To her face? When you are her boss/coach.

Good posts. For those who think Safe Sport is “due process”, it looks like it is not without controversy and critics and ideas about what it should be compared to what it is today. Interesting to read the comments of Sarah Klein, an attorney and former gymnast and former victim of Larry Nassar:https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/three-years-center-safesport-faces-controversy

alanson wrote:

Interestingly, Safe Sport derives its authority from the US Olympic & Para Olympic Committee and so does not have authority over sporting activities not regulated by the USOPC. Thus participants in professional sports such as football are not under the authority of Safe Sport. There is definitely ambiguity about its authority over sporting activities not regulated by the USOPC, but whose participants may also be aspiring Olympic athletes or the supporting staff who supervise such participants. Is college baseball regulated by safe sport, or professional hockey? Are certain areas of track and field (regulated by the NCAA, for example) not under the jurisdiction of Safe Sport? Activities narrowly related to cross country would appear to be outside of its jurisdiction. But I think Safe Sport makes a broad claim that might snare the unwary who are involved in areas that touch on Olympic sport.

OozmaKappa wrote:

Does free speech really exist if you cant call a fat woman fat.

What if you showed that the range of body fat in elite is but yours is ….

liar soorer wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

To her face? When you are her boss/coach.

Racist denier is back!

So it's ok for a boss to call someone beneath them"fat" to their face?

liar soorer wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

Not in anything connected to the US Olympics.

Theoretically he could coach high schools and universities, but probably not with this on his resume.

Theoretically, he can coach in foreign countries not related to the US.

“Permanent Ineligibility

a. This means that a Participant is permanently prohibited from participating, in any

capacity, in any program, activity, event, or competition sponsored by, organized

by, or under the auspices of the USOPC, any NGB, and/or any LAO, or at a facility

under their jurisdiction. This sanction is imposed only when a Participant is found

to have engaged in egregious forms of misconduct, and represents a permanent bar

from participation in Olympic & Paralympic sport.”

See:

https://uscenterforsafesport.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/CDD-Link-1-overview-and-definitions-v2.pdf

So what would happen if he went to the hills to coach a load of athletes who volunteered to take his services or advice.

If they head for the hills, who's going to pay Salazar's salary or sponsor the athletes?

OozmaKappa wrote:

Does free speech really exist if you cant call a fat woman fat.

There is no absolute right to free speech. People in employment situations know that - or should know it - when it comes to commenting negatively on a colleague's appearance.

Armstronglivs wrote:

OozmaKappa wrote:

Does free speech really exist if you cant call a fat woman fat.

There is no absolute right to free speech. People in employment situations know that - or should know it - when it comes to commenting negatively on a colleague's appearance.

commenting about the bodies of athletes is totally fine because the athletes body is is the product of his work. it would be a different situation if you are working at mcdonalds. being fat would be a compliment to the good food.

OozmaKappa wrote:

Does free speech really exist if you cant call a fat woman fat.

Al Sal could call a fat woman fat last week and he can do it next week too. You aren’t too bright.

I wonder if Mary Cain's allegations about Alberto Salazar were considered to be sexual misconduct because SafeSport's Code states that Sexual Misconduct includes "Sexual or Gender-Related Harassment". Possibly her allegations were considered gender related harassment, thereby falling under the Sexual Misconduct umbrella, even though this is not what first comes to mind when we read that someone has been banned for life for sexual misconduct.

Cross posting from another thread:

Rule 11 wrote:

Does anyone know what Salazar is accused of doing?

Salazar Chided Mary Cain About Her Weight

There has been quite a bit published about this issue with statements from Cain and others. If this was done in a humiliating fashion (in front of other teammates, with insulting remarks, etc.), then it does fall under the sexual misconduct definitions of the Safe Sport guidelines. If this practice only applied to the women athletes at NOP, then this would also clearly violate the Safe Sport definition.

Salazar Allegedly Made Numerous Comments About Kara Goucher's Breasts and Purportedly Tried to Kiss Her on a Flight

These accusations were detailed in the book, "Win At All Costs". If the inquiry found them to be credible or Salazar could not adequately dismiss them, then this is textbook sexual harrassment. Such behavior would get you fired at any corporation and violates Safe Sport code, falling under the category of sexual misconduct.

We will not know any details for sure until a report is made public. There may be more incidents that have not been revealed in reporting. Salazar has the ability and the right to release the findings from the judgement if he chooses.

noglacierforyougfdgdf wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

There is no absolute right to free speech. People in employment situations know that - or should know it - when it comes to commenting negatively on a colleague's appearance.

commenting about the bodies of athletes is totally fine because the athletes body is is the product of his work. it would be a different situation if you are working at mcdonalds. being fat would be a compliment to the good food.

What an appalling response. An athlete does not become the property of the coach.