Official 2021 NCAA Cross Country Nationals DI Live Discussion Thread

That D2 implosion of the leader at 7k or so was insane! Another tougher course than expected and talk about devastation at the finish line!

Maybe we didn’t watch the same race because that men’s race was one for the ages. Mantz leveraging the Wall was balls out.

ForFusion wrote:. Boring course, boring races, hoping some new individuals and teams step up soon as Mantz still has another year left and it seems like NAU is stacked for the next decade.

Mantz is gone. They asked about track in his tv interview and he said no.

28 teams feasted on roast Ducks today.

Notre Dame had a poor showing, but it may reflect that they overachieved in the Spring as much as they underachieved today. They were firing on all cylinders for the ACCs and Regionals, so maybe they miscalculated when they would peak. As for them hiding during the season, a coach has to deal with the structure of the XC season as dictated by the NCAA. Given the emphasis on rankings, there is no reason for a ranked team to burn out in a bunch of races they don't need.

SeattleSilver wrote:

28 teams feasted on roast Ducks today.

Notre Dame had a poor showing, but it may reflect that they overachieved in the Spring as much as they underachieved today. They were firing on all cylinders for the ACCs and Regionals, so maybe they miscalculated when they would peak. As for them hiding during the season, a coach has to deal with the structure of the XC season as dictated by the NCAA. Given the emphasis on rankings, there is no reason for a ranked team to burn out in a bunch of races they don't need.

Notre Dame ran like absolute idiots.

They had all seven in the top 50 at 3k in a race that was rolling from the gun. That makes sense maybe if you're 2003 Stanford. Kind of worrisome that Carlson evidently thinks that's how you "run to win". Really lacking in historical perspective. They won't win anything with that mentality.

i think watching nc state win while their top girls ran average is what makes it not excititng... but i think thier 4/5 ran great and obviously won them the race. Its interesting to watch touhy run "good enough" for a second ncaa championship

Katelyn Tuohy in 16th, best placing for her year group (everyone that placed ahead of her was older in years)

Continues on this path and she will be tearing it up soon.

GOPrunnerboi wrote:

Katelyn Tuohy in 16th, best placing for her year group (everyone that placed ahead of her was older in years)

Continues on this path and she will be tearing it up soon.

as noted in the other thread, despite a fall around the one mile mark

aklm wrote:

i think watching nc state win while their top girls ran average is what makes it not excititng... but i think thier 4/5 ran great and obviously won them the race. Its interesting to watch touhy run "good enough" for a second ncaa championship

yup, NC State 18 seconds 1-5, about 10 seconds better than they had done - that would be due to the performance of Bush today. They would have won if she was her average self, but she was 10 seconds better today.

aklm wrote:

i think watching nc state win while their top girls ran average is what makes it not excititng... but i think thier 4/5 ran great and obviously won them the race. Its interesting to watch touhy run "good enough" for a second ncaa championship

katelyn tuohy ran impressively ... coach henes said she fell at mile mark, had to recover 30 spots to be back in the front pack, she was calm and showed poise and maturity, and still finished strong ..top 15 !! 9 places better from the last national xc race!!

semihaze wrote:

aklm wrote:

i think watching nc state win while their top girls ran average is what makes it not excititng... but i think thier 4/5 ran great and obviously won them the race. Its interesting to watch touhy run "good enough" for a second ncaa championship

katelyn tuohy ran impressively ... coach henes said she fell at mile mark, had to recover 30 spots to be back in the front pack, she was calm and showed poise and maturity, and still finished strong ..top 15 !! 9 places better from the last national xc race!!

I saw the girl from Florida get her heel clipped while in the lead pack and almost go down. Any idea how/why Tuohy went down? I was wondering if anyone would slip on the crushed sea shells?

Meh, only faux cross country races are held in Florida. Running on crushed sea shells, lmao

high school xc coach wrote:

NC State will have a lot of work to do to replace their 3 and 4.

The way Bush progressed this year she could be #3 next year, so need to find 4 and 5 which could be as others have said Starliper and Rauber.

GOPrunnerboi wrote:

Katelyn Tuohy in 16th, best placing for her year group (everyone that placed ahead of her was older in years)

Continues on this path and she will be tearing it up soon.

Who else of the Top 40 is still U20?

Additional All-American FR : Herman, Heckel, Valby, Covert and Graham.

Heckel is U20, Euro XC should be interesting (if she qualifies for the German team next week).

What about the other four?

Wuss alert wrote:

Meh, only faux cross country races are held in Florida. Running on crushed sea shells, lmao

This race looked pretty real my friend, not sure what you are on about

start at 3:17

jbdhdye wrote:

Might be reading too much into it, but Touhy seemed a little less excited than the others. I wonder if she misses being the solo star of the show. Or maybe wanted to be top 10. Total speculation here

she fell during the race ... nut shes very happy, just not an overly bragging loud winner, she's a bit lowkey... you talk like you dont know tuohy

girl breaks countless records and acts like a normal average runner

I wounder if Paige Hofstad of UNC fell also, she lost 80+ place between 1170m split and 2k. She ran team #1 (10th overall) in the SE Region.

Harrier46 wrote:

I wounder if Paige Hofstad of UNC fell also, she lost 80+ place between 1170m split and 2k. She ran team #1 (10th overall) in the SE Region.

I saw that, and DaDamio of Stanford who was very close to Hofstad at the first split. Seems like something happened in there.

galenruppisjacked wrote:

Wuss alert wrote:

Meh, only faux cross country races are held in Florida. Running on crushed sea shells, lmao

This race looked pretty real my friend, not sure what you are on about

start at 3:17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7A2eT5Nqvw&t=197s

That's what happens when you starve yourself through incessant obsessive exercise and have no energy reserves (or flesh )