Official Saturday Morning (US) Olympic Discussion Thread - Women's 800 Semis and 100 Semis and Final + Mixed 4 x 400

Where can we find splits for the relays?

vxtolvuf wrote:

vxtolvuf wrote:

The flotrack guys are saying they should have thrown Felix in just to get a faster time.

But, what are the 4x4 mixed rules--are they allowed to put in people from other events? (Obviously, like Mu, Kerley, and the W400H hurdlers)?

Note: Femke Bol ran it.

Can’t wait to see her get smoked in the 400h

Sifansshass wrote:

kmaclam wrote:

3 Brits in the final! Very impressive.

The Brits have eliminated the best 800m runners such as Semenya and Niyonsaba and this is the result. Very sour tasting achievement.

men are not allowed to compete with women. Get over it!

Oly Picks wrote:

Seven children and they claim that she is the one and only to be born in the US. It will always be a question in people's minds.

A question in your mind perhaps. No one else.

NYDCRunner1 wrote:

men are not allowed to compete with women. Get over it!

Seems slightly silly to post this comment in a thread including discussion of the mixed 4x4.

vxtolvuf wrote:

The flotrack guys are saying they should have thrown Felix in just to get a faster time.

But, what are the 4x4 mixed rules--are they allowed to put in people from other events? (Obviously, like Mu, Kerley, and the W400H hurdlers)?

You can put anyone in. If the USA wanted to win they should have put in Kerley and Felix. It's not as if either of the two stands a chance of winning a medal.

When is Fraser- Pryce and Jackson going to be disqualified for doping?

Is Trenton, New Jersey no longer part of the US?

khcglhc wrote:

NBC 3 wrote:

according to the announcer raven rodgers is the sole american in the final.

He meant US born

NYDCRunner1 wrote:

When is Fraser- Pryce and Jackson going to be disqualified for doping?

Well only if they get careless and get caught. But that's the case for any of those women. You think just the Jamaican girls are dirty? And guess what partner, wrestling ain't real either.

Not a question in your mind perhaps. But nearly everyone else.

whacha say mon wrote:

The entire island of Jamaica is... DOPED TO THE GILLS!

Their history (once going through an entire 12 months prior to an Olympics with essentially no out of competition testing on the entire island) and the dominance absolutely invites the scepticism.

For me Thompson and Price I am kind of numb to - as in I assume they are and have been for years anyway so no big deal. But Sherika Jackson just makes me laugh. She was obviously a good 400m runner - a 3 x bronze medalist (2 at WC and 1 OC) and had a PR of 49.47 which is very solid.

Between 2017 and 2019 she posted 100m times of 11.24, 11.13, 11.30, did not post a 100m in 2020 and in 2021 just explodes down to 10.76 (and has now clocked 3 sub 10.8 times this year!!!) I'm sorry but THAT is absolutely ridiculous. It's so implausible it's just comical. Nothing ETH and SAFP did is that shocking but Jackson is the give away here about what still goes on in the world of Jamaican sprinting.

And yes, I'm well aware of someone on the US team in the 100m that has an eerily similar career trajectory from being an elite 400m runner to now completely reversing that and becoming elite over 100m - probably more evidence that there is something fashionable doing the rounds at the moment that supports these simply apparently impossible transitions down events.

FFS

So, who is clean? Do you actually believe any of them are?

How so when the official told her to line up there?

Slightly silly not to understand the discussion is about individual gender assigned races.

where are your facts, bruh? wrote:

FFS

So, who is clean? Do you actually believe any of them are?

I mean on what grounds would I have to believe they are?

Dominance of this degree we saw back in 2012 and it was revealed after that essentially drug testing was non-existent in the key months prior to London.

(if you are interested).

So why is this relevant now? Because we just have come off a similar situation (no testing) caused not by a (deliberate) "breakdown" in a system but by a global pandemic and we are seeing similar dominance again. So I don't know "bruh" just putting a pretty simple 2 and 2 together here.

Anyways, my post was more on Sherika Jackson and how she has stunningly become the 13th fastest runner of all time after an entire career as a solid 400m runner (and comparatively she is much better because her 400m best puts her 33rd all-time). Do you believe that transformation seems plausible?

where are your facts, bruh? wrote:

NYDCRunner1 wrote:

When is Fraser- Pryce and Jackson going to be disqualified for doping?

Well only if they get careless and get caught. But that's the case for any of those women. You think just the Jamaican girls are dirty? And guess what partner, wrestling ain't real either.

Given Okagbare, clearly not all athletes are clean. Given the majority of athletes like Kambundji rarely run sub 11 and definitely not sub 10.7 I will have to believe that most are clean. When it comes to the men's 100M I am suspicious of any man who runs sub 9.80. Either it is PEDs a la Coleman or a malfunction clock a la Bromell's 9.77.

Fraser-Pryce may have had a storied career in her 20s, but to be running so fast at 35 is rather strange for a sprinter.

dukeofplazatoro wrote:

So, the Swiss are better than the American(s).

Including Alex Wilson and his "tainted U.S. beef" lol

You can say it is dumb not to run with those athletes but the question that matters is whether they wanted to run or if they were conserving themselves for the individual events and only wanting to do relays at the end of the meeting.