Pete Julian the genius coach - Brazier has a broken foot...

Trollminator wrote:

compreezy wrote:

Your refusal to address his having to scratch from other meets and his obvious gait issues are showing that you have no credibility.

How about relying on communications by the source himself who has not mentioned any injury and admitted he bombed? That might be a better approach than making $hit up.

Stating the facts that he scratched from races and he had obvious gait problems is the opposite of making things up actually. A realexample of "making $hit up" would be writing nauseating opinion like "he couldn't handle the hurt" that sounds like it was written from a high school try hard who watched Without Limits too many times and has a "You'll have to bleed to beat me" Pre poster on his wall.

drewfritz wrote:

And what's your excuse for why he ran 1:48 and finished 19th in the prelims in the 2016 trials? The dude just had a bad race like he did then, to which he admitted, and choked again. It's mental, has nothing to do with his foot.

I don't need an excuse for why he ran 1.48 in the 2016 trials.

How about the facts - it was his first major event as a professional after signing a big deal with Nike? There is no leeway for the kid to learn.

This is a now a general statement as the starter of this thread. The criticism and conjecture of Brazier with respect to "he choked" is honestly so mind-numbingly sad and pathetic I can not even believe it. All you f----ing proud American track fans railing on this dude when he did about the most heroic and patriotic thing he could do - go out and give his best, ultimately for his country, despite being severely compromised health wise.

You are the same group of scumbags that if he had taken the other option (probably better for his career long-term because who knows how bad this is) and scratched from the meet would be railing him for that ("drugs", "scared"... whatever).

I thought that the vast majority of responses would be "oh yeah that makes sense" and instead there are absolute a$$holes like you and a bunch of other utter flameouts giving your two cents on his mental fortitude. Just remember this guy went to the press conference devastated and never mentioned this.

Honestly you guys are beyond sad and pathetic. This isn't even message board talk - you are pathetic human beings. The jealousy and borderline hate you must harbor for the kid to be paying him out in his worst moment as a pro is honestly the most tragic thing of all.

Knowing that he is world class and believing him when he says he had a terrible race makes us fans and makes us supporters and makes us optimists.

People like you who call him and his coach liars are the knuckleheads. And claiming that a professional coach would send a runner out there with a broken foot is calling the coach incompetent.

I prefer to be in the group that believes people. You can stay in your corner.

Heady guy wrote:

Knowing that he is world class and believing him when he says he had a terrible race makes us fans and makes us supporters and makes us optimists.

People like you who call him and his coach liars are the knuckleheads. And claiming that a professional coach would send a runner out there with a broken foot is calling the coach incompetent.

I prefer to be in the group that believes people. You can stay in your corner.

So you have never come across, seen, heard an interview from an athlete who simply took full responsibility for a performance and then it was later revealed they had an injury that compromised them? Unheard of? Never happened?

Jesus I feel like I'm in the upside down world here with some of you id$ots.

He hasn't lied about anything, neither has Pete Julian. Has anyone asked this directly? I haven't seen this. I heard Brazier say there was something going on that "a champion should overcome" - that's all I heard. Who exactly has lied?

Back to the original point you think it's completely implausible they knew he had an issue, he made the call to give it shot, it compromised him (we SAW this - he was f---ing limping?!) and then in the press conference he chose to be all class and not give any excuse? You truly believe that scenario is completely far fetched?

Corner? What corner exactly are you sitting in again? I can't wait until the facts are confirmed by that team and I would guess it will be after the event after things have cooled down. Of course there will be no way to get any apology/admission from muppets like yourself but you can all take a look in the mirror. Pathetic.

How often do top runners go to the final qualifier with no plan?

Source?

You keep spouting conspiracy theories instead of just accepting the facts from the horse's mouth. You sound like a lunatic. Just accept that he had no plan and lost his focus when Murphy passed him. You are the who should be apologizing to Brazier and the community for continuing with this fairytale.

Salvitore Stitchmo wrote:

ex-runner wrote:

What are you supposed to do when the US qualification schedule dictates that you must run the trials to do the Olympics?

He doesn't have much choice but to run. Can always rest from now until Tokyo and hope for the best.

What is your point? I'm not condemning him for running - in fact I think it's amazing he was able to even make the final. He had 2 choices - if I was him I would have done the same.

Regarding Julian I'm pointing to the fact that he had Brazier running through a foot injury last year and in almost 10 months since that they weren't able to manage it as such that he was healthy for the most important time in his career. It's about that simple.

Well then you are simply being naive. There is no way you can know anything about the medical situation regarding Braziers foot, nor his rehabilitation efforts.

Maybe he has done all the cross training in the world and seen the world's best doctors but his foot simply has not healed yet.

Maybe he fully healed, was given the all clear by the doctors and then he has been reinjured.

Maybe he is now healthy but the foot kept him out for such a long time his preparation is impacted?

Maybe Brazier plays secret soccer matches at the weekend and his foot got stepped on.

There is no way you can know what the exact situation is. Let alone blame Pete Julian specifically. Letsrun madness.

Oh please, he did the most heroic and patriotic thing he could do for his country? Talk about hyperbole. How many lives did he save? Brazier is a professional athlete who gets paid a lot to do something he loves. He gets cheers and adulation when he wins gold and he will get some criticism when he does perform up to expectations.

In T&F we treat our athletes with kid gloves. Did you hear Stephen A trash Paul George this morning for missing 2 free throws? Ben Simmons has been blamed by everyone for the 76ers losing their series to Atlanta. But if we ever criticize a runner we are not being supportive and somehow damaging the sport.

Criticism is part of the territory for any professional athlete. It’s just an indication that fans are emotionally invested in an athlete’s or team’s success. Yes, sometimes the criticism is not fair but I’m pretty confident Donovan Brazier will be strong enough to handle it and will come back with many great performances. There is no reason for you to get emotional.

If you want to question Julian for getting Brazier hurt. Go for it.

However I wouldn't question the decision to race at the Trials if nursing a bum foot. It's the Olympic Trials. You go for it.

compreezy wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

How about relying on communications by the source himself who has not mentioned any injury and admitted he bombed? That might be a better approach than making $hit up.

Stating the facts that he scratched from races and he had obvious gait problems is the opposite of making things up actually. A realexample of "making $hit up" would be writing nauseating opinion like "he couldn't handle the hurt" that sounds like it was written from a high school try hard who watched Without Limits too many times and has a "You'll have to bleed to beat me" Pre poster on his wall.

^ ok fan boy, you claiming he has gait problems doesn't amount to facts does it? Elaborate and corroborate your hypothesis if you expect people to swallow that bs. He admitted that he $hit the bed and you don't want to believe the source - pure stupidity.

Well said! However, we can't completely dismiss Sal's "source" with regard to the injured foot. Whether it's been an ongoing issue the past year and or is still an issue. I think it's fair to say that DB was not himself during the trials. I do not believe he choked! This is one of the fastest 800m runners in the world, defending world champion, and a favorite to win gold in Tokyo. To simply write him off as folding under pressure is a huge reach. I believe DB stated that there were some things going on with him that world-class athletes must work through (maybe mentally or physically). Seems likely he was dealing with an injury or the after-effects which directly affected his performance. Whether or not he admits he was hurt or not, that's up to him. Getting injured is part of being an elite athlete, and by accepting this there is no use in "blaming" a bad performance on being injured. It's a reality that must be dealt with every day. No excuses, just try to be better and prevent future injuries. I admire DB for not making excuses and trying to perform the best he could. Accusing him of anything less is not cool. He's paid his dues and deserves better.

Finally, blaming Pete Julian is ridiculous. As per my earlier post, BOTH Pete and Donovan planned the training and managing of the "injury". Lashing out at PJ and accusing him of making DB "Run through a foot injury last year" is both idiotic and unfounded.

Good Luck Donovan! Hope to see you run fast next season.

I watched the race. I didn't see him limping. He finished the race slowly and jogged through the line and beyond. If he were injured I would have thought he'd stop as soon as he crossed the line.

You seem fun to be around. You really need to go for a run.

Runner10287 wrote:

If you want to question Julian for getting Brazier hurt. Go for it.

However I wouldn't question the decision to race at the Trials if nursing a bum foot. It's the Olympic Trials. You go for it.

.....Amen.

Well well well, Brazier in a boot on crutches. Imagine that. He’s probably just faking it as an excuse because he’s not tough enough though, right you middle schoolers?

yooooooooooo wrote:

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Well well well, Brazier in a boot on crutches. Imagine that. He’s probably just faking it as an excuse because he’s not tough enough though, right you middle schoolers?

Weird. Almost like it was painfully obvious.

kmaclam wrote:

Not understanding why the FACT he was injured seems so far fetched to 98% of the posters on here? UFOs, yep, election was stolen, yep, Brazier had an injury that contributed, nah.

In hindsight, it should have been way more obvious to posters on here. "Choked", my arse.

yooooooooooo wrote:

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Well well well, Brazier in a boot on crutches. Imagine that. He’s probably just faking it as an excuse because he’s not tough enough though, right you middle schoolers?

Thank you

So where are all of you absolute w@nkers who, after I gave you an actual piece of information that you would never be privy to unless I gave it to you, slated me as "making things up", "being crazy" - I mean I can't even be bothered going back to catalogue the insults.

He's faking the walking boot too? Here's something else - I was also told he ran only twice in the 3 weeks leading up the trials it was so bad.

So by any means guys, feel free to man-up and apologize. Next time I come across any actual intel I'll just keep it to myself and all you j@ck-offs can just speculate your fake news like you always do.

Sal out.