Parler, free speech website, taken down from the web

Its not just Parlor, sure there is a small minority of right wing extremism that occupies that space that is troubling and should face more scrutiny if they are engaging in unlawful behavior, but we're also seeing many regular conservative content creators being threatened to be 'de-platformed' by Big Tech over their content. Dave Rubin, AwakewithJP, Hodgetwins, and a few other popular channels who aren't 'rightwing extremists' have told their audiences they have faced unfair scrutiny in the past year from the big tech platforms.

I do believe Twitter & Google also ran algorithms leading up to the election that purposefully diverted traffic away from conservative channels and websites. Parler aside, there is sufficient evidence already that Big Tech & mainstream media in concert with a wider left wing agenda are attempting to censor certain viewpoints and persons that they deem a threat to their political agendas.

Atlantis2 wrote:

We need a platform where it's OK to disagree with leftist views. The left does not want such a platform to exist, so they concoct bullshit rationalizations to ban us such as that we promote racism, "hate," violence, etc. The left is a medeival church of orthodoxy.

Why would you want a site that is simply dedicated to opposing leftist views? To me that just seems like a site where people come to complain and be among people complaining about the same things. You should be interested in rational thought, truth, facts, having your views debated and challenged and perhaps be enlightened and changed. At a time when the country needs to come together, why are you looking for ways did in deeper?

Whether or not you agree with someone they should have the right to say it, I Don't believe in even having moderators, If someone says something illegal, just show it to Police/FBI etc. they would look at what that person said/wrote, and if they think it is a credible threat they would make the arrest. If the Person writes it on Parler, Twitter, Facebook etc. They are already pretty much caught as Law Enforcement can know who they are and where they are, The person who writes illegal stuff is basically telling them this is what they plan to do and where they plan to do it meaning they are basically already caught, and if there is a large protest Like last week at the Capitol or the George Floyd protest's over the summer and Law Enforcement knows about it, they could make sure they have enough Law Enforcement and if Necessary National Guard or even the Military to keep in control.

There are Rumors of Protest's next week at the State Capitols if it is credible they can make sure they have enough manpower to keep control, We all support ones right to protest, but please keep it Mostly Peaceful just like the protesters in the Summer for George Floyd did.

Harambe wrote:

The number of people here saying "Conservatives don't have a voice" when the most watched news is FOX and like 5 out of the top 10 radio shows are conservatives AND you can literally host your own website for dollars a month to say whatever crap you want.

How willfully ignorant do you have to be... or are you just dumb?

Also, the president has a communications staff of about 30 employees who can get themselves on any television station at anytime. The POTUS as tremendous access to mass media, the president or Kayleigh McEnany can call the CBS Morning Show or any other show on short notice and get on. The problem is, any news outlet except for Fox is going ask serious questions and not allow misinformation. The reason why the president is so enamored with social media is the fact that there is no vetting and he is not challenged.

GD wrote:

Another point: one does not have to believe that the election was stolen to defend other people's right to say so publicly--and there's no doubt that tech platforms are the new public square (otherwise, why would it matter if they censor Trump or not). People in a free society have to be able to criticize the government, even if the criticism is illegitimate. Otherwise, we have to cede authority to somebody to decide what is legitimate criticism vs. not. AND...they very ceding of authority over truth to a person or institution is the backbone of authoritarian structures.

Public square indicates a common area for all citizens which can be used for civic activities. If the public square has been bought by a local businessman - he decides what happens there. This is true with technology no matter how many service providers are available.

Trump and his supporters would cry foul if a government intervened to block the sale of the public square and would oppose any attempt for government to use tax payer money to create one. They would say it's government controlled/protected and biased against them. They're also now complaining business is privately controlled and biased against them.

What you really need is a public square which everybody agrees is owned in common with each other. But this is something the world moved away from and is probably impossible to re-create at the moment.

Yes exactly!

The president has ZERO ground to claim he's being silenced. Other members of government are in nearly the same boat. They have dozens of people employed to make sure their voice gets out to America. It's just comical victimhood. (Snowflakes, anyone?)

Harambe wrote:

TrackCoach wrote:

Also, the president has a communications staff of about 30 employees who can get themselves on any television station at anytime. The POTUS as tremendous access to mass media, the president or Kayleigh McEnany can call the CBS Morning Show or any other show on short notice and get on. The problem is, any news outlet except for Fox is going ask serious questions and not allow misinformation. The reason why the president is so enamored with social media is the fact that there is no vetting and he is not challenged.

Yes exactly!

The president has ZERO ground to claim he's being silenced. Other members of government are in nearly the same boat. They have dozens of people employed to make sure their voice gets out to America. It's just comical victimhood. (Snowflakes, anyone?)

GOP officials including the president will not go on mainstream media. Why? They are not shut out. Because they ask them tough, relevant questions. Hell, trump left the set of 60 minutes because they showed him video of one of his thousands of lies. The current right seems to want to use media for their propaganda, not as an honest form of communication. Don't forget that trump has said many times publically that he has to smear main stream media and journalists so when they show bad stuff he is doing, his supporters will not believe it. "Fake news". This is paraphrased but the "bad stuff he is doing" are his words.

I thought Letsrun was taken down for a minute there.

Star wrote:

I thought Letsrun was taken down for a minute there.

You were being censured!

daddd it ain’t just “building out a data center”, more like building out multiple data centers across the world and then building managed compute/storage/logging/auto-scaling/domain management/etc/etc/etc.

Sounds like there’s some right wing cloud plays out there for them already, but infrastructure transition is gonna take a while, + lulz for them building their own video/chat services now that Twilio has pulled the plug.

++ with the way they were architected, it seems like it’s pretty much a b-team building sh*t over there, so they’re gonna bleed out the eyes probs when they actually have to start hiring people who know how/what they’re doing.

Imo, I think the results of the data scrape are actually going to be what keeps them locked down long term, or limit people from coming back to the platform, high possibility a lot of people are going to wind up in legal trouble because the Parler team didn’t handle auth properly.

LRC without moderation would just be endless spam posts and ads (as happens sometimes at night or when the mods take a break). You obviously support some form of moderation.

I'm sure you would be cheering if the FBI does the same with ANTIFA or BLM?

Cancel culture is scary stuff. It introduces very personal threat and will likely result in further division and violence. I get the left is loving spiking the football right now but just look at Ted Wheeler being confronted while out eating last week by radical leftists. Wheeler is nutso liberal but these monsters will eat their offspring. Maxine Waters encouraging people to confront people in public is key example of why this is happening. Coming to a town near you.

You mean like all the tough questions they ask Biden?

You don't really even think before you post do you? I mean even you can't believe what you write.

old_dead_people wrote:

I'm sure you would be cheering if the FBI does the same with ANTIFA or BLM?

Cancel culture is scary stuff. It introduces very personal threat and will likely result in further division and violence. I get the left is loving spiking the football right now but just look at Ted Wheeler being confronted while out eating last week by radical leftists. Wheeler is nutso liberal but these monsters will eat their offspring. Maxine Waters encouraging people to confront people in public is key example of why this is happening. Coming to a town near you.

Public servants being held responsible by their constituents... time to clutch my pearls!

Well the Left controls the house senate and executive wanna bet big tech doesn't get touched over the next 2 yrs? Dollars to donuts nothing happens because they are loving it.

Insurrection...really? I'm sure BLM burning down private and government property was no big deal for you all freaking year long but now it is insurrection? I mean Kamala Harris was bailing these people out of jail. The left has no leg to stand on. I haven't heard anyone on the right condone the violence. Get real this is a product of liberalism. You guys own this Maxine Waters style. It is now being used by the radical right and it is a horrible thing.

TrackCoach wrote:

Atlantis2 wrote:

We need a platform where it's OK to disagree with leftist views. The left does not want such a platform to exist, so they concoct bullshit rationalizations to ban us such as that we promote racism, "hate," violence, etc. The left is a medeival church of orthodoxy.

Why would you want a site that is simply dedicated to opposing leftist views? To me that just seems like a site where people come to complain and be among people complaining about the same things. You should be interested in rational thought, truth, facts, having your views debated and challenged and perhaps be enlightened and changed. At a time when the country needs to come together, why are you looking for ways did in deeper?

Because political debate is needed in a democracy. Why would you want a place where people wouldn't be allowed to criticize their government?

Everybody needs to relax - the invisible hand will fix this.

That is why CCP and Iran's leaders which actually cause widespread violence racism etc are being censored by twitter, facebook etc right?

So you condone what they did to Wheeler? Really? You are more psycho than I thought. What about the graffiti and pig's head at Pelosi's home?

Can't you see where this is going? You will be found on the wrong side of history and decency if you don't start to condemn these actions. You want to hold people responsible vote them out or send a letter like us normal people.