Well to be fair the DNC leaders are puppets. It’s the shadows pulling the strings you need worry over.
Well to be fair the DNC leaders are puppets. It’s the shadows pulling the strings you need worry over.
As a Biden voter, I admit this election was rigged. Here are the problems I see:
Even before votes are cast, 99% of their media spends 99% of their time attacking Trump. Many of their attacks are flat out lies with no evidence (such as Russian Collusion and Trump insulting the military).
Media refuses to cover anything bad about Biden. Biden has a bad record on foreign policy but he was not asked one question about his plans. Same with the Hunter Biden laptop, the media lied and said it was a fake story when it's real.
Censorship by social media corporations protected Biden. They claimed the laptop info was "hacked materials" and censored it, but Trump's leaked taxes were clearly hacked/stolen and also unverified but they didn't censor that.
2 states flipping from Trump to Biden at 4:30am is suspicious. We've heard stories in previous elections about high numbers of mail-in ballots being tossed due to missing signature, no postage or other reasons. But we don't hear about that here. I think those ballots were put aside, then when Biden was losing they counted them all despite no verification. Why else would it be done at 4:30am?
ernest 1978 wrote:
As a Biden voter, I admit this election was rigged. Here are the problems I see:
You know everyone knows you're just one of the usual suspects lying under a false name, yep?
Get some help.
Do you have a link to the 4:30AM story? So far we have 2 instances of things that were fixed and the usual incoherent rambling from Allen53.
runnerguy2016 wrote:
I personally don't care if Donald Trump loses this election - I actually think it is better for the GOP in 2024 if he does. However I do want to talk about election fraud. It seems to be happening all over the place right now and if there aren't any consequences for it I am worried it will cause even more fraud by both sides next election.
Does anyone have an explanation for things like this:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/watch-ballot-count-watcher-describes-least-130000-ballots-biden-arriving-three-vehicles-detroit-dead-night/?fbclid=IwAR0jLmYhhtK0SpQHs4QDXdHdMLUx9p1LJSn7Yk-c8zsA1IS0yNY1a4aV9OcI'm sure the first thing that will happen here is people will attack the source. Instead of doing that can someone address the claims that this person is making?
How could you possibly give that ANY credence at all? Seriously.
The #1 point of potential election fraud is being overlooked by nearly everyone in this thread in my opinion.
Donald Trump throughout the summer and especially in September/October begged his followers to avoid mail in voting and to vote in person only. He publically and openly said time and time again the reason was so that he could scream 'fraud' and blame mail in votes if he lost. He said it was an avenue to retain power if he lost the election. The boards of elections publically said it would take 'days,' not hours to sort out mail in votes.
In 2017 the GOP did an investigation of mail in fraud and found 200 cases nationwide. It's irrelevant but makes me laugh that 6 of the 200 were from Trump's team trying to vote in a state they were not registered. Trump completely ignored that data banking that many would buy his lies of fraud because he even wrote a book claiming that if you lie enough people will believe it over time. And the bigger the lie, the better. Those are his words. He also smeared the media for 3 years so that they lost credibility with many because "when they expose bad things about me I don't want people to believe it."
ALL of this has happened just as scripted yet many are being led like sheep into buying Trumps dimentia.
This whole scenario was OPENLY scripted yet people are reacting like it is real and secretive drama unfolding.
Still a bunch of talks and no proof. Which is why lawsuits are getting no traction. Just good troll material for losers trying to get their jollies.
runnerguy2016 wrote:
I personally don't care if Donald Trump loses this election - I actually think it is better for the GOP in 2024 if he does. However I do want to talk about election fraud. It seems to be happening all over the place right now and if there aren't any consequences for it I am worried it will cause even more fraud by both sides next election.
I'm sure the first thing that will happen here is people will attack the source. Instead of doing that can someone address the claims that this person is making?
I'm confident enough in our judicial system that if there is credible evidence of fraud, it will be exposed and corrected.
This election was probably the most closely monitored election in history. I don't worry about election fraud. I don't need to go around and try to play cop to stop it. There are very competent people that I trust to do that job.
If her claims are true, there were multiple witnesses to this fraud, and it will be exposed. Meanwhile, I'll go on with my life worrying about things I have control over.
Honestly it seems like the below is the only ACTUAL case of attempted fraud. Not a good look Trumpers... not a good look at all.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/07/us/pennsylvania-convention-center-arrests/index.html
UsedToBeKnowItAll wrote:
I'm confident enough in our judicial system that if there is credible evidence of fraud, it will be exposed and corrected.
This election was probably the most closely monitored election in history. I don't worry about election fraud. I don't need to go around and try to play cop to stop it. There are very competent people that I trust to do that job.
I agree with your statements. Election boards are bipartisan and take their jobs very seriously. It would take many involved from both parties to keep fraud from being exposed.
For those crying "fraud" what is you take gerrymandering, voter suppression, and the electoral college? "If" there was voter fraud in mail-in ballots it is dwarfed by the three I listed. I guess they are not sexy or immediately scandalous enough to get much attention.
ernest 1978 wrote:
As a Biden voter, I admit this election was rigged. Here are the problems I see:
Even before votes are cast, 99% of their media spends 99% of their time attacking Trump. Many of their attacks are flat out lies with no evidence (such as Russian Collusion and Trump insulting the military).
Media refuses to cover anything bad about Biden. Biden has a bad record on foreign policy but he was not asked one question about his plans. Same with the Hunter Biden laptop, the media lied and said it was a fake story when it's real.
Censorship by social media corporations protected Biden. They claimed the laptop info was "hacked materials" and censored it, but Trump's leaked taxes were clearly hacked/stolen and also unverified but they didn't censor that.
2 states flipping from Trump to Biden at 4:30am is suspicious. We've heard stories in previous elections about high numbers of mail-in ballots being tossed due to missing signature, no postage or other reasons. But we don't hear about that here. I think those ballots were put aside, then when Biden was losing they counted them all despite no verification. Why else would it be done at 4:30am?
Yeah, you lost me at "As a Biden voter"
Vote counting was delayed by Republican legislatures. In Pa, the count would have been over and done, like in Florida and Texas. Same things happened there, except Trump came roaring back.
The main strategy in this election has been around voter suppression by the republicans.
This crybaby stuff will change nothing. And if the Presidential results will be delayed past February, it'll be President Nancy Pelosi until its sorted.
Right? There are more fake Biden voters on this thread than in the general election.
the beagle wrote:
Right? There are more fake Biden voters on this thread than in the general election.
I'm not firmly on either side of the fraud debate yet but this is definitely true haha. Every post supporting the fraud theory starts with "I voted for biden"
It’s over oddballs, you bought into his grift for four years, it’s over now. Let it go.
Hey, Brojos, I thought this was a politically neutral message board? Why would such a slanderous, conspiracy thread be allowed?
The tears from defeated Trump fans are hilarious. Every day we have a new thread that’s breathlessly earnest about voting and fraud.
Trying to cry your way out of a lose election. Enjoy the coping. Loolllllll
Our long national reconciliation can begin... NEXT MONTH hahahah
Two Georgia counties using the same electronic voting software as a Michigan county that experienced a glitch have also reported encountering glitches during the 2020 election.
Voting machines crashed in Georgia’s Spalding and Morgan Counties on Tuesday morning because of what election officials described as a “glitch.”
A Georgia election official said that a technical glitch that halted voting in the two counties was caused by a vendor uploading an update to their election machines the night before the election, according to a report by Politico.
“That is something that they don’t ever do. I’ve never seen them update anything the day before the election,” said Marcia Ridley, elections supervisor at Spalding County Board of Election.
Ridley added that she did not know what the upload contained.
The report said that the Georgia counties used software made by Dominion Voting Systems — the same software used in most Michigan counties, according to the Detroit Free Press.
Dominion Voting Systems is also used in Michigan’s Antrim County, the Detroit Free Press reported.
Dominion Voting Systems — which commands more than a third of the voting-machine market without having Washington lobbyists — has hired its first, a high-powered firm that includes a longtime aide to Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
And talk about trustworthy- who better than....
In 2014, Dominion Voting committed to providing emerging and post-conflict democracies with access to voting technology through its philanthropic support to the DELIAN Project, as many emerging democracies suffer from post-electoral violence due to the delay in the publishing of election results. Over the next three years, Dominion Voting will support election technology pilots with donated Automated Voting Machines (AVM), providing an improved electoral process, and therefore safer elections.
Allen53 wrote:
Two Georgia counties using the same electronic voting software as a Michigan county that experienced a glitch have also reported encountering glitches during the 2020 election.
I appreciate that Allen is somehow linked to this site, surely he needs to get the boot if he's going to spend the next 6 months tearfully posting stuff like this.
For his benefit even more than ours.
At least this time Allen53 is posting a link without grossly misinterpreting it (he’s instead hoping you don’t click on it or read past the first paragraph).
“"We applied directly with the Center for Technology and Civic Life, although the Michigan Bureau of Elections did promote the grant opportunity to all Michigan clerks and I have heard many clerks, large and small, from all over the state announce that they received funding," she said.”
Money for expanding the ability to collect ballots when there’s an anticipated impediment to them being collected properly or on time =/= fraud. Or even anything close to it?