400h - WARHOLM 46.87

Seems like there's some predictable stereotyping around Warholm. Just because he's white doesn't mean he's a pure "technician" who is running times that are incredible for his limited sprint speed. That's just false. He can put up a very good 100-400 right now. If you can run 45.0 in the 400 in a windy stadium 90 minutes after a near-WR effort, you are capable of much more in the event. He is a historic athlete because he has paired great natural gifts and speed with improving technique.

inexperienced_sprint wrote:

600yd/600m man wrote:

World class hurdlers race amazing times for their true speed. Warholm, I am sure is still not sprinting 100m any faster than 10.5x. Warholm, I am sure is still not sprinting 200m any faster than 21.xx. He's no faster than 44.50 400m. On another thread, posters were amazed he was able to race low 45 400m. That stuff happens.

His 200m PB Indoor is sub 21(20.91).... set almost 4 years ago. His 400m indoor PB at that exact time was 45.96. You really think he hasn't improved his 200m time in 4 years when he improved his 400m indoor time by almost a full second during the same time?

Are we talking indoor?

Indoor track used to be slower. Indoor used to be solely raced on 160 yard wood tracks. MSG and other indoor venues used to allow smoking, including cigar smoking. It is possible to add pure oxygen in ventilation system indoors. I believe indoor tracks of today may artificially return energy to athletes.

Posters are saying Warholm is both a potential 1:44 800m guy and posters are saying Warholm is also a 43.xx 400m guy. Why would he bother with 400mH if Warholm is the next Alberto Juantorena?

We will probably see what Warholm can run in the 400m flat. Around 2-2.5 sec. faster is typical which puts him at least in contention for the ER of 44.3.

The 800m ability of Warholm is anyone's guess until he runs it and nobody would claim that he is the next Juantorena. However, Schmid ran 1:44.83 with 44.92 and 47.48, so it is not absurd that Warholm could run well below 1:50.

The silliness abounding here is the idea that 400 flat would be a much stronger event than the 400m hurdles. Not quite as silly as dropping javelin from decathlon but close.

Pure oxygen in the ventilation!??!

Sir, you should untighten your foil hat and return to reality. Warholm is fast indoors because he is fast, thats it

sprinters are kings. people get selected for decathlon from the ones that coaches don't believe will be fast enough. having said that, ashton is the best athlete by quite some distance aming decathletes. his pr's combine for significantly more points than poor little kevin mayo, the overrated thrower diva.

couldawouldashoulda don;t count, unless you want to include the fact ash was in top shape and clearly left some on the table due to not getting a couple steps exactly right. k. mayo doesn't need to worry about that since he knows throes are overrated and he can just use his skills in niche events and that will make up for his lack of athleticism in the runs and jumps (the real events).

women throw lighter javs, idiot. k. mayo is limp wristed too compared to real throwing professionals. that's why I already mentioned it's pointless to do stuff in dec that you can only be good at by specializing for a long time. they're all bad. it's disgusting that sport where athleticism should be of paramount importance can be decided by who's less bad at a technical windy nonsense show.

in a fight between trained athletes anyone can win. beefhead mr. mayo doesn't have ashton's speed, and ash has more than enough to knock him out cold with one blow, so I'd say advantage ashton. also, he can use his superior legs to straight kick or head kick poor injury prone fragile mr. mayo before it can even come to hands.

so, k. mayo is a limp wristed lucky bastardo. meanwhile no one in their right mind would ever call ash a weak sprinter or long jumper. he's a beast of an athlete. and the fact is if he actually gave it a go he'd 100% make team usa in lj AND likely 400. not only that- he'd be taking medals in the long jump. what can your boyfriend k. mayo medal in? javelin? hahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa

I'm pretty sure even you're not dumb enough to believe that ashton achieved his limit in the throws. it's just he optimized. in real athletic events he's head and shoulders above. lucky k. mayo simply could never match that, and trust me he's trying his best. you're so stupid to think he 'chooses' not to long jump further? not to be faster? lol that's so stupid I don't even know what to say. tjrows don;t hold him back from any of it, he's just inferior. and wipe your tears away, you're so ugly

at this point that's 'the next emmanuel korir'. his times even at the same time would both be better than aj.

erico1234 wrote:

Pure oxygen in the ventilation!??!

Sir, you should untighten your foil hat and return to reality. Warholm is fast indoors because he is fast, thats it

You must be a low tech Luddite. You were unaware indoor facilities are able to add pure oxygen.

You are twisting yourself into a pretzel to make Warholm a sub-21 200m man.

Save your breath. Astoon is nothing. Long live King Mayer!!

This multi talk is bs.

They are both great. Sebrele, O’Brien, and even Smith were all great.

For my money, the best ever was Daley Thompson.

Paul West wrote:

ex-runner wrote:

Multi-events at by far the weakest event in athletics.

Very little competition, it takes so much more resources to get into that it is prohibitive for much of the world and a celebration of being 'ok' at many events rather than elite at one or two.

There are lots of power athletes in the sprints or hurdles or jumps that could turn their hand at decathlon and do decent.

Christian Taylor can run a 45 400 as well as triple jump 18.20m. If he wanted to turn to Decathlon then he'd have no issues with long jump, hurdles, 100m, pole vault, high jump and then most these days are pretty bad at the throws and 1500m anyway.

Yes, "power athletes" and your man Taylor can "turn their hand" at the decathlon and end up decent. High school level decent. Gimme a break Renato.

High school level? Absolutely idiotic post.

Christian Taylor's actual PBs:

45.07 400m

18.21m TJ

8.02m LJ (10 years ago)

20.7 200m

What highschooler can do that??

He would put together a very successful muti-event performance. Elite performances In a range of events.

Ofc its possible. But if you think the little stadium where he got 20.91 almoast 4 years ago uses that, then you really think too highly of Norway

Here he was still 19 years old and got 20.94 indoors

erico1234 wrote:

Ofc its possible. But if you think the little stadium where he got 20.91 almoast 4 years ago uses that, then you really think too highly of Norway

My last post on this thread. This is getting boring.

Indoors is a hoax these days. Think about it. No one peaks for indoors. Turns are very tight but some gals/guys still peak indoors. How do some 200/400 gals.guys peak indoors with tight turns? 1) Possible added oxygen; 2) indoor tracks return energy; 3) humidity, temp & no wind indoors.

No one these days strive to peak for indoors but some athletes peak indoors. Indoors on 200m super fast tracks are phony.

Why are posters attempting to may Warholm both a 43.xx 400m guy and a 1:44.xx 800m guy?

I typed it with my fingers, my breath is fine. glad to see you capitulate, troll dufus. sweet sweet victory!

Mr truth guy wrote:

How did you get 2 yrs younger than Warholm? Benjamin is a year and few months younger.

Not sure Benjamin has more to develop than Warholm. I believe he has been focusing on the 400/400H longer than Warholm has. Warholm focused on the decathlon earlier.

Although I do think the deca has helped him strength wise. He is running as much more powerfully built than Benjamin. 6'2" 176 lbs vs 6"3" 169lbs

Sorry i thought Benjamin was 22, Benjamin and walrhom will definitely both improve. But i think if benjamin had competed in the 400mh this year he would be close to if not right next to warholm, and I do think that warholm is more experienced because he has been competing internationaly for longer, i think Benjamin will be able to put together a better race by his second. World Championships.

Lol. Capitulate what? Some people work which pays for your food stamps. Also don't really bother to read or reply to drivel most of the time.

Throwers are kings. That's what makes an athletic man. Strength. Not weakness. Strength. Little panzy flight of feet stuff is for women. That's for people who run away. Just like Astoon would if he faced King Mayer in an alley. Mayer would bash him into a pulp. Just look at the musculature of Astoon vs Mayer. Mayer has hard muscle, absolutely chiseled. Astoon has soft rounded muscle, as if he's a typical girl that drank some shakes and bulked up herself.

Couldshouldwoulda is right for Astoon. All talk but cannot actually do the performance.

Mayer also has the hops over aston. Being superior in the high jump is especially what makes Mayer so special. This is why he is so versatile. And on top of that being so superior in the pole vault. An event that takes so much talent, strength, speed, explosiveness, jumping ability, skill, flexibility, being able to put body through amazing torque, all rolled into one. Astoon is just one dimensional. Just does linear sprints and jumps. Useless as a versatile athlete.

Can't believe you know nothing about t&f. Complete imbecile. The women's and men's javeline are the only comparable ones. Women throw only a slightly lighter javelin and theirs is shorter. A man has the aero advantage of a longer javelin and hence the reason why it also slightly heavier. That's why a woman can throw a mens javelin a simialr distance as the womens. This is why the mens javelin best throw 90 meters while the womens best throw 60. Not like the shot put or something where the women can throw farther due to much lighter weight. What a useless nonathletic transgender that astoon is. Could he actually get beat up by a girl? And you idolize this clown?

Poor asstoon. He's a nobody. Forget about him. Nobody remembers the second best.

I know you have nightmares about Kevin. We can send you a teddy bear so you feel safer.