Brittle Master 1958 wrote:
Charlie, I think you are a really good runner, and it sounds like you always have been.
Brittle my def of a really good runner is a runner who does not get injured too often who has found a way to enjoy running in spite of physical limitations and last but not least appreciates the efforts of others.
So using my def until the last 2 years I was a really bad runner;)
Nice 400 finish
I think comparing all these body mass indices, especially with Olympians and High Schoolers, is probably not advisable, maybe dangerous. Be healthy, train smart, and eat healthy. And this should especially be true when we are in our 50s-60s-some 70s.
Plus, pretty much when you hit middle age (be that 35, 45, 55) you are pretty much writing your own ticket on how to approach the sport. Whether it be for aerobic fitness, while doing whole body conditioning or another sport, or higher mileage or a competitive second or third career at it. In Nordic skiing I had more fun and relative success in my early 50s than I did through most of my 20s and 30s. And for running--while I'd like to be running PRs like I was 30 or 35 years ago--I've had some of my best and most satisfying years in the late 50s-early 60s. And if I keel over from an enlarged heart or damaged valves at 67, well I had a good ride an would go out with some good memories. Just saying whatever gets us out the door and keeps us motivated, and each of us gets to define that for ourselves.
Coyote Montane wrote:
I think comparing all these body mass indices, especially with Olympians and High Schoolers, is probably not advisable, maybe dangerous. Be healthy, train smart, and eat healthy. And this should especially be true when we are in our 50s-60s-some 70s.
So sensible. And what fun is that? :-)
I do think I have to stop running at lunchtime. Today it ruined me for working in the afternoon. At 4:30 p.m. as soon as my workday was done, I collapsed on my bed and slept like a dead person till 6:15 p.m.
Then I came to, went out for a 2-mile walk, still in temps of 80+ F., and I was dazed and staggering a bit the whole time. I kept thinking, "I better be careful, I don't want the police seeing me and thinking I'm drunk."
So maybe lunchtime should be for walking, or stretching, or something easy like that. Not running on the track under the hot sun.
Charlie wrote:
Gotta keep the fire burning king of your castle al be it a sand castle
Yeah, this is my philosophy too.
The Oregon men's cross-country team has a fun Youtube channel that I subscribed to.
Here's a sample post, called "Oregon Long Run":
PR'd 800 2:28.10 last 600 in 1:52 . Big help from Coach John who I met at the South Eugene Track. Age Grades to 87.24 at 63 almost 88 at 64 with is knocking at my door.
All modesty aside I can go faster!
Video this is why I video these efforts. Met some really cool track coaches:
Excellent, too bad no Worlds.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Excellent, too bad no Worlds.
Well almost there, if I can get down below 2:25 by age 65 (14 months) I will be in the ball park. Joe Gough ran 2:20 at 66. Hoping the new Hayward Field attracts Worlds soon.
After my warmup Coach John was gracious enough to give me a plan for running the 800. That is his event:
First 200 hard
Next 200 relax maintain
Next 100 on the 3rd curve RECOVER helped a lot
Last 300 should be evenly paced
Last 150 do not try and accelerate just maintain relax.
I might have just found my event!
Charlie wrote:
PR'd 800 2:28.10 last 600 in 1:52 . Big help from Coach John who I met at the South Eugene Track. Age Grades to 87.24 at 63 almost 88 at 64 with is knocking at my door.
Wow, not bad!
Respect!
Charlie wrote:
PR'd 800 2:28.10 last 600 in 1:52 . Big help from Coach John who I met at the South Eugene Track. Age Grades to 87.24 at 63 almost 88 at 64 with is knocking at my door.
All modesty aside I can go faster!
Video this is why I video these efforts. Met some really cool track coaches:
https://youtu.be/gmAbFXZCgKY
Alright Charlie...enough is enough...I think we're going to need you to pee in a cup....hee hee. Just kidding. Terrific result.
Thanks, Newbi , PTF and Brittle
Richard Nixon, I am not a crook
Lance Armstrong
Aug 2005: "I have never doped. I can say it again, but I've said it for seven years."
Walter White ya got me
Charlie
The big improvement was not so big a lot of it was the track surface I usually train on .Part of it was the advice from Coach John as well as his encouraging helpful words really amazing guy. He was coached by Joaquim Cruz 84 oly gold medalist and sub 142 guy.
LOL
El Caballo....”The Horse”.....Cruz’ nickname.....
sorry igy, you got the wrong 2-lapper--el caballo was juantorena, the cuban 400/800 gold medalist in '76. not sure the brazilian cruz (and u of o product, gold in '84, silver in '88) had a nickname, but a stud nonetheless.
that said, my bet's on charlie to take either of them in a race right now...
cush
socalcush wrote:
sorry igy, you got the wrong 2-lapper--el caballo was juantorena, the cuban 400/800 gold medalist in '76. not sure the brazilian cruz (and u of o product, gold in '84, silver in '88) had a nickname, but a stud nonetheless.
that said, my bet's on charlie to take either of them in a race right now...
cush
That’s right Juantorena. I should know that, silly me. Cruz was another Latino stud and did deserve a nickname. One of my coaching office mates at University of Texas Rio Grande Valley was the soccer coach. He gave me the moniker Mas Duro, a play on my last name.
Lunchtime: 3 miles at the track, slow and untimed, 82 F. and overcast. Showers forecast for later.
*Week 473*
Greetings, 50+ers! Hope you all are well. These crazy times seem to keep rolling on with no end in sight. Good to see so many of you keeping at it and finding ways to stay motivated. Charlie, great job on that solo 800m TT. I'm jealous to see so many ordinary folk out there using the track in So. Eugene. Someone up there gets it. Here in Lexington, all tracks are locked up....though I can travel to the next county where they aren't so stingy with their resources.
Had a decent week with some modest progress: 6 days of activity with 25+ miles of translocation: 3 days of just walking, 3 days of run/walk. Whatever malaise I had last week seemed to work itself out by Tuesday, when I did 4x0.5 mi of running on 0.2 mi walk between. Then on Thursday, it was 12x(1 lap run, 1/2 lap walk) on a 1/6th of a mile track. Yesterday was my best run/walk in a while that included 1.3, 0.5, 0.5, 0.2 & 0.2 mile run portions on 0.2 mile walk between (only 0.1 between the last two 0.2 mile run portions.) Most of this week was in the upper 7's to mid 8's as far as pace is concerned, though did dip into the lower 7's for some parts.
I'm not even going to comment on the weight thing until I get rid of this pot-belly. Still in the 195 lb range, but starting to feel like there is some downward movement....maybe by fall sometime.
OK. That's all I've got from the Bluegrass. Keep up the good work and look forward to reading of your progress! Be Safe!
All the Best!
Week of June 22-28, 2020
Monday: Walking (2 miles), Stretching (11 regular stretches, 9 back stretches), Strengthening (5 lower body exercises x 1 set)
Tuesday: Walking (2.5 miles), RUNNING (2 miles on the track in 18:23; 9:12/mile; plus 0.5 mile warm-up) Stretching (11 regular stretches, 9 back stretches), Strengthening (6 upper body exercises x 1 set)
Wednesday: Walking (2 miles), Stretching (11 regular stretches, 9 back stretches), Strengthening (5 lower body exercises x 1 set)
Thursday: Walking (2.5 miles), RUNNING (3 miles on the track in 30:40; 10:13/mile; plus 0.5 mile warm-up) Stretching (11 regular stretches, 9 back stretches), Strengthening (6 upper body exercises x 1 set)
Friday: Walking (2 miles), Stretching (11 regular stretches, 9 back stretches), Strengthening (5 lower body exercises x 1 set)
Saturday: Walking (2 miles), RUNNING (3 miles on the track, slow and untimed) Stretching (11 regular stretches, 9 back stretches), Strengthening (6 upper body exercises x 1 set)
Sunday: Walking (2 miles)
Totals:
9 miles running + 15 miles walking=
24 Brittle Master miloids
(A miloid is a unit of measure that includes running, walking, and elliptical miles.)
Last night for fun I watched the entire 2004 Olympic Men's Marathon on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuCs8a7XH68
This is the famous race in which the leader is tackled and pushed off the course by a crazy fan.
At first I was disappointed to discover there was NO PLAY-BY-PLAY, in fact no voice narration at all. Just some sounds of shoes slapping the pavement and some ambient clapping and crowd noise.
However, there was great video footage of the entire race, including lots of close-ups, and there were frequent on-screen labels of the various runners, and frequent updates on times, how far ahead the leaders were, 5K splits, etc. So all the key information was provided.
Eventually I got the genius idea to play Youtube music in the background, so I could watch the runners pounding along with an appropriate soundtrack.
You haven't lived until you have watched Stefano Baldini of Italy sprinting the last 5K in 14:20 (after an entire race run at about 15:30 5K pace), with no one even trying to keep up except Meb, to the soundtrack of "Disco Inferno":
I couldn't get enough, so I had to self-destruct
The heat was on, rising to the top
Everybody going strong, and that is when my spark got hot
I heard somebody say
disco inferno
(Burn baby burn) burn that mother down
(Burn baby burn) disco inferno
(Burn baby burn) burn that mother down
burn that mother down
(Burn baby burn) disco inferno
(Burn baby burn) burn that mother down
when my spark gets hot
(Just can't stop) when my spark gets hot
when my spark gets hot
(Just can't stop) when my spark gets hot
(Just can't stop) when my spark gets hot
When my spark gets hot
when my spark gets hot
(Just can't stop) when my spark gets hot
(Just can't stop) when my spark gets hot
(Just can't stop) when my spark gets hot
(Just can't stop) when my spark gets hot
(Just can't stop) when my spark gets hot
(Just can't stop) when my spark gets hot
(Just can't stop) when my spark gets hot
(Just can't stop) when my spark gets hot
(Just can't stop) when my spark gets hot
disco inferno
(Burn baby burn) burn that mother down
(Burn baby burn) disco inferno
(Burn baby burn) burn that mother down
(Burn baby burn)
(Burn baby burn) burn that mother down
(Burn baby burn) disco inferno
LucKY: Nice week! Great to see you back at it!
Mon = Dumbbell workout
Tue = 4 miles treadmill with 3@8:13 pace (thunderstorm)
Wed = Rest
Thr = 4 miles cemetery, easy (moving)
Fri = Moving son, (moving)
Sat = 4 with 3@8:28 pace (hot, tired, and everything, including my fingers, is sore!)
Sun = 4 miles easy
Whew, I now remember why I dislike moving so much. My youngest son moved out. Although we could afford to hire movers, it did not seem like that much stuff…
I was wrong.
My little Cape Cod is just full of steps! 13 steep and narrow one's to his former airy. But we got it done and, surprisingly, it does not appear that I injured myself in the process.
I pray to Lydiard we get to race soon.