How can the world be a globe if the universe is flat?
How can the world be a globe if the universe is flat?
Oblate spheroid wrote:
How can the world be a globe if the universe is flat?
What ?
Who/what says the universe is flat ?
Of the universe is expanding would earth not also eypand constantly?
Raddison wrote:
foxymoron wrote:
Heya Flat earther friends, not keen to debate the math but really keen to understand the reason for the lie/hoax from your perspective. Why would NASA scientists, meteorologists, airline's etc. lie, what's the point and who benefits?
I believe flat earthers fall into three categories:
1) Charlatans: They do not believe in a flat earth but have discovered they can get a decent income from selling books, T-shirts and other memorabilia to the Gullible (Category 3). They also enjoy revenue from "conferences" where they can get the Gullible to pay for the right to enter the building where they are selling their books, T-shirts etc.
2)Trolls: They do not believe in a flat earth but get great pleasure over winding people up and getting them to engage in endless arguments lifted from the works of the Charlatans. It is satisfying for them because they have to do little work for their reward. The flat earthers posting in this thread fall into this category.
3) Gullible: They probably do believe in a flat earth and are exploited by the Charlatans and egged on by the Trolls. They are the only group that can honestly answer your question but almost certainly lack the critical thinking skills and analytical thought process to come up with any form of answer.
Therefore the most likely respondents to your question will be either the Charlatans or Trolls. As a result you will not get a genuine answer.
An extremely good answer that also describes the three categories of Trumpers
Bushkin wrote:
Oblate spheroid wrote:
How can the world be a globe if the universe is flat?
What ?
Who/what says the universe is flat ?
The Cosmic voice. Can't you hear it?
If the Earth really was flat you could go up in the Sears Tower in Chicago and see all the neighboring skyscrapers in the neighboring cities across the United States
I think the obvious point that the Earth is not flat is that you cannot go up on a high point and see other high points , like you would if the Earth really was flat
I know flat-earthers argue against this by saying that the atmosphere distorts distance Vision
But this is easily shown to be incorrect by the fact that you can see the moon clearly on the horizon, when you are looking through miles and miles of Earth's atmosphere, and then outer space to see the moon and it is very clearly visible
If the Earth really was flat you would not be able to see the moon on the horizon, but yet not be able to see distance skyscrapers
I think this is one of the most obvious ways to Simply show the Earth is round
Go to any major city that lies on flat Terrain, and drive from the skyscraper out and watch it vanish Over the Horizon , if the Earth really was flat it would not vanish like this
Also why wouldn't flat-earthers just rent a plane and fly towards the Antarctic wall and simply videotape it from a distance it should be clearly visible from a plane even if you're not allowed to approach it because of their mythical government conspiracy
But surely you have to be able to get close because some land masses lie fairly close to it, so it should be easy to rent a plane and just show video that the Earth is flat, and show some of the features that are theorized by flat-earthers
Its called GRAVITY.........look it up!!
Just clicked on this thread for the first time and am amazed. Could somebody please clarify for me whether this is actually about flat-earthers, or is this just an extended metaphor for delusional anti-vaxxers? Thanks!
Thought it worth a try. I get why other conspiracy theories gain traction, new world order, political gain etc but I don't quite get why this one has.
I used to love conspiracy theories when I was younger then realised people are really not intelligent enough as a collective to pull off the complexity of most conspiracy theories.
The reality is we are nowhere near as smart as we think we are.
Pdx 1967 wrote:
Its called GRAVITY.........look it up!!
I thought gravity didn't exist for some of these flat earth nuts... I heard one of them claim it was some sort of NASA conspiracy along with space rockets not being able to function in space due to the lack of air molecules...
Oblate spheroid wrote:
How can the world be a globe if the universe is flat?
If the universe is flat (with a 0.4% margin of error), as suggested by data from the space telescopes, the "flat" universe would still be incredibly high. The universe is assumed to be 93 billion light years in diameter, so the 0.4% would still be 372 million light years high. [The distance from the sun to the earth is around 8.3 light minutes]
A pancake is considered to be flat, it still has height.
Oblate spheroid wrote:
How can the world be a globe if the universe is flat?
Made me laugh…
Flat earthism, or more broadly anti-sciencism, is the virtue signaling of the right just like wokeism is for the left. Neither really believes what they say and will not act very differently on average when something actually affects them.
tooniron wrote:
Oblate spheroid wrote:
How can the world be a globe if the universe is flat?
If the universe is flat (with a 0.4% margin of error), as suggested by data from the space telescopes, the "flat" universe would still be incredibly high. The universe is assumed to be 93 billion light years in diameter, so the 0.4% would still be 372 million light years high. [The distance from the sun to the earth is around 8.3 light minutes]
A pancake is considered to be flat, it still has height.
If you were on a planet 200 million light years away and you had a really good telecope, would you be able to see dinosaurs moving around on Earth?
Airline routes only work on a flat earth.
https://rumble.com/vjet8h-flat-earth-airplane-routes-only-make-sense-on-a-flat-earth.html
After reading this book, you will realize that the globe map is completely wrong.
The earth is flat.
Legit question wrote:
Airline routes only work on a flat earth.
Why ?
Legit question wrote:
Airline routes only work on a flat earth.
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After reading this book, you will realize that the globe map is completely wrong.
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The earth is flat.
What happened? Did youtube scientists get demoted to “rumble”?
Why can’t flat-earthers create a flat map that doesn’t distort Australia?
Bushkin wrote:
Legit question wrote:
Airline routes only work on a flat earth.
Why ?
You will see 16 examples of flight routes which make no sense on a ball. However, on a flat earth it does. Several examples with maps to demonstrate here:
https://www.flatearthresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/covered16emergencylandingsprovingflatearth-191007025918_compressed.pdfLegit question wrote:
Bushkin wrote:
Why ?
You will see 16 examples of flight routes which make no sense on a ball. However, on a flat earth it does. Several examples with maps to demonstrate here:
Of course all 16 examples make sense on a 3D globe.
What I see is a flat-earther who can’t make sense of how a globe works, but figured out how to write a book.
All of his “globe” lines are drawn on a flat 2D projection of a globe.
They may look “straight” in 2D but hard to tell without orienting the globe properly.
He should buy a globe and then make straight lines between two points, with the aid of a string.
Look at all these Lufthansa flights: on a globe they are all straight lines.
Note in the southern hemisphere, the curves change the direction of their bend. This is not for artistic reasons:
https://www.moneysavingheroes.co.uk/images/route%20map.jpgProblem with the “Gleason’s” map is evident when you look at Australia — it is distorted.
Flat-earthers should first produce a map without obvious distortions.
We know how far apart Darwin is from Adelaide, and how far apart Sydney is from Perth.
On a Gleason map, it makes no sense.
We know how far apart Sydney is from Santiago, and Perth from Cape Town.
No flat-earther has produced a map that can make sense of these distances.
Bushkin wrote:
Legit question wrote:
Airline routes only work on a flat earth.
Why ?
Are you trying to push him over the edge?
