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The other elites, of course.

Sally Vixxxens wrote:

The other elites, of course.

The Jewish elite are the current rulers of America.

Just as the WASP elite were over 100 years ago.

While the other economic elite have power in our system, it cannot compare to the Jewish elite who have literally dozens of Orgs devoted solely to jewish power (although some -- like the ADL -- pretend to be humanitarian Orgs). Along with the strong organizational structure there is a strong ethnocentricity among the Jewish elite that other elites do not have.

This loyalty to the group and organization structure and being galvanized around one topic -- Israel - has allowed the Jewish elite to rise to the top and become the unquestioned rulers of America. They use this power for their own group and against everyone else.

K5 wrote:

Sally Vixxxens wrote:

The other elites, of course.

The Jewish elite are the current rulers of America.

Just as the WASP elite were over 100 years ago.

While the other economic elite have power in our system, it cannot compare to the Jewish elite who have literally dozens of Orgs devoted solely to jewish power (although some -- like the ADL -- pretend to be humanitarian Orgs). Along with the strong organizational structure there is a strong ethnocentricity among the Jewish elite that other elites do not have.

This loyalty to the group and organization structure and being galvanized around one topic -- Israel - has allowed the Jewish elite to rise to the top and become the unquestioned rulers of America. They use this power for their own group and against everyone else.

You claim no anti-Jewish sentiment, yet you write stuff like this. I'm not sure if you're ignorant, naive, or what. If the Jewish elite are ruling the country, why aren't we bombing Syria or Iran?

Take a long look in the mirror, my friend.

Why would it be obvious...because that guy makes sense?

Sally.

You can't stay in denial forever. Many of us have awakened over these past few years

K5 wrote:

Why would it be obvious...because that guy makes sense?

Fake K5. Try coming up with your own name. Too challenging a project for you?

K5 wrote:

Sally.

You can't stay in denial forever. Many of us have awakened over these past few years

Fake K5. Try coming up with your own name. Too challenging a project for you?

[quote]Sally Vixxxens wrote:

If the Jewish elite are ruling the country, why aren't we bombing Syria or Iran?

Well at least you understand that the Jewish elite and only the Jewish elite are pushing us into a war with Iran.

And don't be so sure they won't get their way.

Despite all the pro-war propaganda by the mainstream elite the American public oppose it by a margin of 3 to 1. The W House is also trying to prevent it.

But the power of the Jewish elite may very well overwhelm the desires of both the president and the American people and drag us into yet another war for Israel.

Connors wrote:

Well at least you understand that the Jewish elite and only the Jewish elite are pushing us into a war with Iran.

And don't be so sure they won't get their way.

Despite all the pro-war propaganda by the mainstream elite the American public oppose it by a margin of 3 to 1. The W House is also trying to prevent it.

But the power of the Jewish elite may very well overwhelm the desires of both the president and the American people and drag us into yet another war for Israel.

K5, there is no doubting the wishes of the Israeli lobby. But if they truly run the country, as you suggest, then we long ago would have militarily confronted both Syria and Iran. The fact that it has not happened is evidence contrary to your position.

The greatest threat to our country is not the Jewish elite. Rather it is Barry Sotero and his goal to completely socialize everything and destroy this country. That is where your efforts should be focused, my friend. Please stop this silly and wasteful effort of yours and join the important battle against our true oppressor.

[quote]Sally Vixxxens wrote:

K5, there is no doubting the wishes of the Israeli lobby. But if they truly run the country, as you suggest, then we long ago would have militarily confronted both Syria and Iran. The fact that it has not happened is evidence contrary to your position.

Give me a break.

The fact that a handful of elites loyal to a foreign nation may yet drag us into another war for that foreign nation against the wishes of not only the overwhelming majority of Americans but the White House speaks to their power, not to their lack of power.

The greatest threat to our country is not the Jewish elite. Rather it is Barry Sotero and his goal to completely socialize everything and destroy this country.

I see. You are around the bend, Fox News, Glenn Beck nuts. In an era of rampant crony capitalism where big money runs our politicians you think Obama's policies are Socialist? You are certifiable

So evidence of their power is based on something that might happen? Are you serious? All of the existing evidence is contrary to any military intervention, yet you stick to the rapidly disappearing possibility of such action as proof our country is run by people loyal to a foreign nation. And you call me certifiable?

[quote]Sally Vixxxens wrote:

So evidence of their power is based on something that might happen? Are you serious?

"Might Happen"?

As if the Lobby has not actually had any influence?

Do you really want to get into what they have gotten done so far?

Beginning with the billions of US taxpayers that go to Israel every year for decades past and to come.

The war with Iraq -- designed and implemented by Feith, Wuermser, Crystal, Wolfowitz et al.

The Office of Special Investigations set up in the US Justice System by and for Jews to chase men who were 18 year old kids impressed into service by the Nazis 70 years ago and charge them with no evidence with the murder of tens of thousands of Jews.

The pathetic sight of US presidential contenders fighting over who is a better friend to Israel. Congress people pushing attacks on Muslim nations because they "deny the Holocaust".

The fact that the Fed chairman has been Jewish for decades and that the majority of the Fed Board is always Jewish and the majority of the Fed regional presidents is always Jewish. No power in controlling the Fed I suppose.

The innumerable Iran sanctions written by AIPAC and dutifully passed by their puppets in Congress.

The fact that if I get assaulted the perp is charged with assault, if a Jew gets assaulted the perp is charged with a much more serious hate crime charge.

The fact Jewish NGOs get 97% of the Homeland Security grant money.

The special program that allows Israelis to pass thru American airports without going thru the security the rest of us do.

And so much more.

Never mind the very real possibility they will drag us into a war with Iran that nobody wants but them.

Yes, might happen. The best opportunities for military action have come and gone. Heck we've begun to re-establish diplomatic relations with Iran! I'm not saying the Israeli lobby doesn't have influence, but they've clearly lost this one. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Great thread K5. While we're at it, why don't we talk about the mass persecution of Christians by Israelis and Palestineans alike? The are fleeing the region in droves. Even the liberally-oriented National Geographic did a great piece on this. I spoke to an Arab-Christian cab driver who had defected here because of this plight, and he was firm in his opinion that neither "side" truly wants peace. If they did, they could have it tomorrow, and the real "apartheid" is being committed against Christians. And here I thought all along that he was the Christian lobby driving the American agenda in our foreign policy, in our schools, in the public arena. Silly me.

Did the elite Jewish lobby persuade Obama to send billions in aid and fighter jets to the Egyptian army, while not sufficiently protecting the American consulate in that country, as in Benghazi, despite huge red flags? Did the elite Jewish lobby convince Obama to take our troops back into Afghanistan and prop up a corrupt government, with no chance of "winning that war?" Is the elite Jewish lobby convincing this administraton to keep giving bribe money to Pakistan? Did the Zionist lobby tell the Obama administration to stand down during the Iranian revolt in 2009, when we missed our best opportunity to come alongside those favoring true Democracy and, instead, stood idly by while atrocities were committed against the defectors, particularly women? Did the elite Jewish lobby cut off Obama's balls when he saber-rattled against Syria's use of chemical weapons, only to do nothing and pretend like he had planned to go through Diplomatic channels all along, using Congress as his cover? Did the elite-Jewish lobby convince the US and the UN to merely kick the can on Iran, easing sanctions in exchange for a "promise that it won't cross the red line when it comes to developing nukes?" Was Netanyahu's ire simply faked?

While I would agree with you that we give far too much aid to Israel, why do we give any aid to Gaza/West Bank recipients, Iranian subsidiaries in Hezbollah and Hamas? I'm sure you will say it is to appease them into not provoking Israel, even as they do it anyway.

Fake Sagarin. Try coming up with your own name. Too challenging a project for you?

agip wrote:

ok,you theoreticians. Let's say you have a gold bar hidden in your 1970s era fallout shelter, next to your spam hoard.

Gold has fallen 27% this year.

Since Jan 1, 2013, have you lost:

Money?

Value?

Nothing?

I usually stay away from these theoretical discussions because they are completely useless, but gold is an oddball since many people consider it to be 'money' not a 'store of value'

OK, I imagine that you are kidding. My impression has always been that you are intelligent. And no intelligent person could possibly think that one does not gain/lose money until the asset is sold.

K5 wrote:

Fake Sagarin. Try coming up with your own name. Too challenging a project for you?

Not only do you not know who I am or anything about the sports/econometric modeling I actually might have done myself as part of my graduate studie, but you cannot even muster a decent response to the thrust of my argument. You are a light-weight.

However, in keeping with the tone of the "How long have you been on Letsrun?" thread, I have been here for about a decade, and it's time I depart because of all of the intellectually and morally bankrupt 20-somethings and "progressives" on here, or change my moniker, because, not only am I getting bored with the same ole, same ole, but, despite my math/economics graduate studies, I don't get paid to consult with the Mavericks.

Perhaps I should change my name to Homicide Bomber?