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We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
Fauci did everything bad ever. The most evil mastermind of all time. You’re fuming, bro
Nope, not everything ever, but he’s definitely trying to walk away from the 6’ distancing mandate that ‘seemingly appeared out of nowhere,’ as if though local governments don’t take their instructions from Federal government and as if it wasn’t his idea. No accountability.
He’s also trying to say he always thought the lab leak theory was plausible, when, in fact, at the strong encouragement of his boss, he said it was highly unlikely and this was a case of natural evolution and he downplayed it immensely and had the media criticize anyone who even bothered to ask the question. Which is total bullcrap, because, frankly, whether it was intended or not, and whether he can ever admit it or not, he’s indirectly responsible for the funding that helped create Covid.
I personally think he lied to Congress and should be charged with fraud. It was his leadership that shut down so much of society and left much damage in its wake. I have a kid who never recovered. So, for him to pretend that none of this was ever his idea and to try to disassociate is just an unbelievable kind of evil.
Fauci did everything bad ever. The most evil mastermind of all time. You’re fuming, bro
Nope, not everything ever, but he’s definitely trying to walk away from the 6’ distancing mandate that ‘seemingly appeared out of nowhere,’ as if though local governments don’t take their instructions from Federal government and as if it wasn’t his idea. No accountability.
He’s also trying to say he always thought the lab leak theory was plausible, when, in fact, at the strong encouragement of his boss, he said it was highly unlikely and this was a case of natural evolution and he downplayed it immensely and had the media criticize anyone who even bothered to ask the question. Which is total bullcrap, because, frankly, whether it was intended or not, and whether he can ever admit it or not, he’s indirectly responsible for the funding that helped create Covid.
I personally think he lied to Congress and should be charged with fraud. It was his leadership that shut down so much of society and left much damage in its wake. I have a kid who never recovered. So, for him to pretend that none of this was ever his idea and to try to disassociate is just an unbelievable kind of evil.
Did he also make the rest of the developed world shut down too?
Nope, not everything ever, but he’s definitely trying to walk away from the 6’ distancing mandate that ‘seemingly appeared out of nowhere,’ as if though local governments don’t take their instructions from Federal government and as if it wasn’t his idea. No accountability.
He’s also trying to say he always thought the lab leak theory was plausible, when, in fact, at the strong encouragement of his boss, he said it was highly unlikely and this was a case of natural evolution and he downplayed it immensely and had the media criticize anyone who even bothered to ask the question. Which is total bullcrap, because, frankly, whether it was intended or not, and whether he can ever admit it or not, he’s indirectly responsible for the funding that helped create Covid.
I personally think he lied to Congress and should be charged with fraud. It was his leadership that shut down so much of society and left much damage in its wake. I have a kid who never recovered. So, for him to pretend that none of this was ever his idea and to try to disassociate is just an unbelievable kind of evil.
Did he also make the rest of the developed world shut down too?
You want a scapegoat. That's puerile.
Bruh. He helped create Covid via his funding puppeteering. He created these arbitrary rules about distancing and masking, and, yes, global health ministers looked to him for advice, as did the leader of the “free world,” unfortunately. Now he’s trying to distance himself from all of this by way more than six feet.
What was truly silly was all the unnecessary bs we went through as a globe and a country when the healthiest and youngest among us didn’t need to do any of it. Again, I was right about you. You are selfish, love to read your own writing, and you didn’t have to live through any of this with kids. I don’t expect you to understand.
Did he also make the rest of the developed world shut down too?
You want a scapegoat. That's puerile.
Bruh. He helped create Covid via his funding puppeteering. He created these arbitrary rules about distancing and masking, and, yes, global health ministers looked to him for advice, as did the leader of the “free world,” unfortunately. Now he’s trying to distance himself from all of this by way more than six feet.
What was truly silly was all the unnecessary bs we went through as a globe and a country when the healthiest and youngest among us didn’t need to do any of it. Again, I was right about you. You are selfish, love to read your own writing, and you didn’t have to live through any of this with kids. I don’t expect you to understand.
6 ft distancing wasn't a "mandate" it was recommendation.
Long-term school closures were bad and shouldn't happen again, but it was on the districts to create an environment where the teachers didn't feel unsafe / didn't want to work.
Fauci didn't direct school closures, the CDC gave recommendations that were acted on by the states. You want revenge because you had a rough 18 months. You are upset that others handled it better and have more accurate interpretations of the pandemic (Harambe). You don't like that someone knows more than you and can think more clearly - I was right about you.
Bruh. He helped create Covid via his funding puppeteering. He created these arbitrary rules about distancing and masking, and, yes, global health ministers looked to him for advice, as did the leader of the “free world,” unfortunately. Now he’s trying to distance himself from all of this by way more than six feet.
What was truly silly was all the unnecessary bs we went through as a globe and a country when the healthiest and youngest among us didn’t need to do any of it. Again, I was right about you. You are selfish, love to read your own writing, and you didn’t have to live through any of this with kids. I don’t expect you to understand.
6 ft distancing wasn't a "mandate" it was recommendation.
Long-term school closures were bad and shouldn't happen again, but it was on the districts to create an environment where the teachers didn't feel unsafe / didn't want to work.
Fauci didn't direct school closures, the CDC gave recommendations that were acted on by the states. You want revenge because you had a rough 18 months. You are upset that others handled it better and have more accurate interpretations of the pandemic (Harambe). You don't like that someone knows more than you and can think more clearly - I was right about you.
lol. K bro👍. I’m so upset I didn’t take the vaccines or follow the rules, other than staying home while sick. You know, since they weren’t mandates after all. Just local liberal ordinances.
yep, Fauci wasn’t responsible for any of this in any way whatsoever. Biggest farce ever perpetrated on our society outside of the very vulnerable.
6 ft distancing wasn't a "mandate" it was recommendation.
Long-term school closures were bad and shouldn't happen again, but it was on the districts to create an environment where the teachers didn't feel unsafe / didn't want to work.
Fauci didn't direct school closures, the CDC gave recommendations that were acted on by the states. You want revenge because you had a rough 18 months. You are upset that others handled it better and have more accurate interpretations of the pandemic (Harambe). You don't like that someone knows more than you and can think more clearly - I was right about you.
lol. K bro👍. I’m so upset I didn’t take the vaccines or follow the rules, other than staying home while sick. You know, since they weren’t mandates after all. Just local liberal ordinances.
yep, Fauci wasn’t responsible for any of this in any way whatsoever. Biggest farce ever perpetrated on our society outside of the very vulnerable.
Largest casualty event in American history - but you didn't have fun... so it's time to declare it all a farce and spit on the graves of 1M+ Americans
lol. K bro👍. I’m so upset I didn’t take the vaccines or follow the rules, other than staying home while sick. You know, since they weren’t mandates after all. Just local liberal ordinances.
yep, Fauci wasn’t responsible for any of this in any way whatsoever. Biggest farce ever perpetrated on our society outside of the very vulnerable.
Largest casualty event in American history - but you didn't have fun... so it's time to declare it all a farce and spit on the graves of 1M+ Americans
lol K bro :)
Those sick, twisted libs had the audacity to care about 1 million dead Americans. I am horrified
lol. K bro👍. I’m so upset I didn’t take the vaccines or follow the rules, other than staying home while sick. You know, since they weren’t mandates after all. Just local liberal ordinances.
yep, Fauci wasn’t responsible for any of this in any way whatsoever. Biggest farce ever perpetrated on our society outside of the very vulnerable.
Largest casualty event in American history - but you didn't have fun... so it's time to declare it all a farce and spit on the graves of 1M+ Americans
lol K bro :)
Nope. Those are 1 million Americans that should’ve been vaccinated, if they could’ve been. But, you know, all of those non-mandates like distancing, masking, vaccination that absolutely were not forced on us by Fauci, of that we can be sure, didn’t help those one million souls you referred to.
But the many millions more Americans, who committed suicide, are now addicted to some kind of drugs, are vaccine injured, and who have generational learning loss… we just won’t worry about them. Because, at least some of them are still alive. For now? that’s what the DanMs are referring to. They are absolutely correct.
Amazing you think you have the high road. All when the non-mandates didn’t even work. Absolutely fooking incredible.
It’s ok dude. When Fauci meets his maker (I know, he is science so he doesn’t believe in a maker) he will have to account for his actions, including indirectly funding the creation of Covid which took those 1 million American lives. But, this is the guy you would attach your cart to. Got it.
I do have the high road - thank you - because all the claims you just made are complete BS. Suicides barely budged, addiction deaths are not correlated with COVID lockdowns / deaths / restrictions and dont even approach the scale of COVID deaths. Learning loss was parents / teachers / districts fault not the federal governments (always blame someone else though!)
"Protect the vulnerable" is a trite saying since its impossible without broad scale restrictions. No location was able to "protect the vulnerable" without shutting down society (see China, NZ).
NPIs were developed ad hoc at the beginning of the pandemic... and many were repealed quickly (if you are claiming we need more $ and more research into what actually works, I agree!)
No place was "locked down" for 18 months. Your victim complex just drives you to re-imagine the past as some oppressive fantasy. Masks? Heh.
I literally do not care about Fauci. Meaningless in the long run.
I do have the high road - thank you - because all the claims you just made are complete BS. Suicides barely budged, addiction deaths are not correlated with COVID lockdowns / deaths / restrictions and dont even approach the scale of COVID deaths. Learning loss was parents / teachers / districts fault not the federal governments (always blame someone else though!)
"Protect the vulnerable" is a trite saying since its impossible without broad scale restrictions. No location was able to "protect the vulnerable" without shutting down society (see China, NZ).
NPIs were developed ad hoc at the beginning of the pandemic... and many were repealed quickly (if you are claiming we need more $ and more research into what actually works, I agree!)
No place was "locked down" for 18 months. Your victim complex just drives you to re-imagine the past as some oppressive fantasy. Masks? Heh.
I literally do not care about Fauci. Meaningless in the long run.
Great post. I can tell you really have your finger on the pulse when it comes to this type of stuff.
Largest casualty event in American history - but you didn't have fun... so it's time to declare it all a farce and spit on the graves of 1M+ Americans
lol K bro :)
Nope. Those are 1 million Americans that should’ve been vaccinated, if they could’ve been. But, you know, all of those non-mandates like distancing, masking, vaccination that absolutely were not forced on us by Fauci, of that we can be sure, didn’t help those one million souls you referred to.
But the many millions more Americans, who committed suicide, are now addicted to some kind of drugs, are vaccine injured, and who have generational learning loss… we just won’t worry about them. Because, at least some of them are still alive. For now? that’s what the DanMs are referring to. They are absolutely correct.
Amazing you think you have the high road. All when the non-mandates didn’t even work. Absolutely fooking incredible.
The vast majority of excess deaths are directly from COVID. The high road worked. You are over here looking at 1 million dead Americans and saying "I wish there were more"
I do have the high road - thank you - because all the claims you just made are complete BS. Suicides barely budged, addiction deaths are not correlated with COVID lockdowns / deaths / restrictions and dont even approach the scale of COVID deaths. Learning loss was parents / teachers / districts fault not the federal governments (always blame someone else though!)
"Protect the vulnerable" is a trite saying since its impossible without broad scale restrictions. No location was able to "protect the vulnerable" without shutting down society (see China, NZ).
NPIs were developed ad hoc at the beginning of the pandemic... and many were repealed quickly (if you are claiming we need more $ and more research into what actually works, I agree!)
No place was "locked down" for 18 months. Your victim complex just drives you to re-imagine the past as some oppressive fantasy. Masks? Heh.
I literally do not care about Fauci. Meaningless in the long run.
Great post. I can tell you really have your finger on the pulse when it comes to this type of stuff.
"We've won a battle. I don't know if we've won the war against the virus. This is a world war," said Henrique Gouveia e Melo, the navy officer in charge of Portugal's vaccine rollout.
Antivaxxers are misinterpreting the recent finding in Nature about ribosomal frameshifting to fit their preconceived notions about mRNA vaccines. Dr. David Gorski, who writes for science based medicine, wrote a nice article explaining why the finding, while quite interesting, is not at all what quacks and antivaxxers are making it out to be, and clinically is insignificant.
A new study is making the rounds in the antivax crankosphere. The study found that the modified mRNA used in the Pfizer vaccine can cause a frame shift (to be explained) that results in the production