Are "flat-earthers" an actual thing?

What if the world is on the back of a very large turtle.?

Argumentation of the sort that's coming from the F.E.rs could "prove " that."

Give me one quote and a remote metaphor and a place to stand and I can move the world.

The Clown Show wrote:

highhoppingworm wrote:

Wait a second. You actually believe the earth is flat? I was aware that this "movement" exists but have never encountered someone like you in the wild.

Can you share more about you arrived at this conclusion Legit Question? I am Legit Interested in how someone capable if reading, writing and functioning in society (presumably) could actually subscribe to this.

Also tell us more about yourself. Do you have a job and family? What are non main stream things so you believe?

I half expect antivaxxers to take up this argument, if they haven't already.

If any flat earther can explain what happens to a boat that slowly "sinks into the ocean" as it disappears over the horizon, then I might be inclined to give em' a listen.

This is another repeat question. All of you globetards need to go back to the beginning of the thread and catch up. Locate the discussion about hi-zoom cameras which pick up ships where the naked eye can no longer see. Ships do NOT fall below the horizon. Try again.

How much did Elon pay the 4 civilians to keep quiet?

Are you scared about private spaceflight?

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Journey to the edge of the Earth wrote:

So how does gravity work?

Whether you look at it from classic Newton laws of physics with objects with mass attracting other objects, or from Einstein's theories in which massive objects create gravity wells in the fabric of spacetime, the bottom line is that on Earth gravity pulls everything toward its center.

So, on the globe up is toward the sky and down is toward the Earth's center no matter what hemisphere you are in. I was mainly responding to Legit Question's stupid pictures.

But if you put Newtonian physics together with Einstein's theory of general relativity, the isn’t it true to say that the Earth is both flat and round at the same time?

Especially so since time is relative, being both real and a construct.

Legit question wrote:

The Clown Show wrote:

I half expect antivaxxers to take up this argument, if they haven't already.

If any flat earther can explain what happens to a boat that slowly "sinks into the ocean" as it disappears over the horizon, then I might be inclined to give em' a listen.

This is another repeat question. All of you globetards need to go back to the beginning of the thread and catch up. Locate the discussion about hi-zoom cameras which pick up ships where the naked eye can no longer see. Ships do NOT fall below the horizon. Try again.

No you dope. Hi-zoom cameras are telescopic.

Telescopes look into the past because photons take a tiny fraction of time to travel from the observed image to the camera. So in that moment the ship has moved further away, so the 'horizon' is both real and non existant.

Legit question wrote:

The Clown Show wrote:

If any flat earther can explain what happens to a boat that slowly "sinks into the ocean" as it disappears over the horizon, then I might be inclined to give em' a listen.

This is another repeat question. All of you globetards need to go back to the beginning of the thread and catch up. Locate the discussion about hi-zoom cameras which pick up ships where the naked eye can no longer see. Ships do NOT fall below the horizon. Try again.

The disconnect here is that you are under some delusion that many of the questions raised were ever satisfactorily answered by any flat earther, rather than based on either a misunderstanding/misrepresentation of the “globe model”, or simply denying real observations.

Here you are simply denying the empirical reality that ships disappear over the horizon, from bottom to top, despite universal historical observations as old as ships, with and without telescopes, suggesting that a hi-zoom camera would prove this. In your own words, this is simply wrong and wrong.

There are no shortages of non-CGI photos and videos one can find, for example, here provided by a poster “iskandar taib”:

Flat-earthers just drop provably false sound bites, like “the horizon always rises to eye level”, and invoke some fictitious “law of perspective” without giving the equations to make predictions, then disappear when proven wrong.

It’s actually quite simple for any flat-earther to prove the flat earth. 1000 years ago, one clever mathematician used the measurable “horizon not rising to eye level” effect to estimate the radius of the earth. The flat-earther can easily do this same experiment himself. If the horizon truly rises to eye-level as you suggest, this flat-earther will measure a dip-angle of zero, and calculate a “divide by zero” infinite calculation of the radius and thus definitively prove the earth is flat. It’s actually much easier today, as anyone with a smartphone app like “Theodolite” or “Dioptra” can give you all the necessary measurements, e.g. from an airplane. Here are some links which explain how:

This is all Dimensionalist rhetorical nonsense. Observable phenomena are illusory. You have to re-examine your ontological perceptions to recognise your epistemological delusion.

Yeah, and the "water seeks flatness, does not curve" is another dumb one that keeps getting repeated. Water, like other matter on Earth seeks the center of the planet as gravity pulls it. It also curves as the gravity of the moon causes the oceans to bulge as the moon rotates around the Earth. We call this the tides.

Sorry. The anti science ball sect is getting really desperate. In fact gravity is higher at some places in the middle of the flat (amazonas, northern africa) than in others at the edges. How could this be the case if the earth would be a ball. Gravity would have to be the same strength everywhere

You guys are Geometrizing to make your perceptions fit your hypothesis. Geometry and Gravity are illusions caused by our need to invent a perceived reality to accommodate the space-time continuum.

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fthumbs.dreamstime.com%2Fz%2Fspace-time-continuum-11748460.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dreamstime.com%2Fstock-photo-space-time-continuum-image11748460&tbnid=PMU4R4epKxqpMM&vet=1&docid=LSH5HULrmK4PeM&w=1300&h=1083&hl=en-GB&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim

"Nothing is real" John Lennon 1967.

Looks like the flat-earther predictably disappeared, just like boats sailing beyond the horizon.

When he comes back, here is an excellent site/app, available in German and English, which models both a flat-earth and its laws of perspective, and a globe-earth, with the ability to simulate the effects of refraction, and zoom and field of view. This is a level of sophistication unmatched by simple lake and ocean experiments only possible on clear hot days when refraction is high.

Even if you don’t use the tool, at the top of the tool are 10 demos which compare which model fits best in various real world situations when looking at real world images.

http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Finding+the+curvature+of+the+Earth

Here are several comparisons against real world photos ranging from ground level, to planes, to high altitude balloons, to the ISS, to a Tesla in space.

http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Comparison+of+Globe+and+Flat%2DEarth+Model+Predictions+with+Reality

It's all relative.

And all those photos of Earth from space are rigged?

How can the Earth be flat ? With so much sea traffic and the technology we hold in our phones alone so many people would be so much video evidence of the edge of this supposed flat Earth a long time ago. Any dude could hire a boat and go do this. Again, think about the amount of sea traffic there is these days whether private or for trade.

Bushkin wrote:

How can the Earth be flat ?

General Relativity. The Space Time Continuum.

Physics is weird.

jamese1045@hotmail.com

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And all those photos of Earth from space are rigged?

Yep. Just like that fake photo of a Tesla Roadster in space too.

Journey to the edge of the Earth wrote:

Legit question wrote:

This is another repeat question. All of you globetards need to go back to the beginning of the thread and catch up. Locate the discussion about hi-zoom cameras which pick up ships where the naked eye can no longer see. Ships do NOT fall below the horizon. Try again.

No you dope. Hi-zoom cameras are telescopic.

Telescopes look into the past because photons take a tiny fraction of time to travel from the observed image to the camera. So in that moment the ship has moved further away, so the 'horizon' is both real and non existant.

What? Telescopes look into the past....where did you find that nonsense? Show us.

Using glober math, the curvature calculator is 8 inches per mile squared. However, there have been countless experiments with lasers, hi zoom cameras, etc that show objects coming into view when they should be hundreds or thousands of feet below the horizon.

Surveyors NEVER account for curvature in their calculations.

7 laser experiments prove a flat earth.

Atmospheric Magnification: why objects are behind the horizon.

One of the best Testable, Provable and Repeatable experiments that proves how objects change due to Atmospheric conditions.

The earth is flat, deal with it.

Legit question wrote:

The earth is flat, deal with it.

Define flat?

Journey to the edge of the Earth wrote:

It's all relative.

The Michelson-Morley experiment proved that the earth was stationary. Albert Einstein then tried to disprove it with his relativity theory, but later admitted: "I have come to believe that any motion of the earth CANNOT be detected by any optical experiment."

The earth is flat & stationary.