This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
Did you present your data to FDA advisory committee public comment and what did they say? Did they at least recommend some good Coursera courses on inferential statistics?
”This process is transparent and independent, and open to the public. Members of the public have an opportunity to address the committee and share their insight.”
"The fees have steadily swollen in importance, accounting for $2.9 billion of the agency’s $6.5 billion 2022 budget, including two-thirds of the drug regulation budget, and the work of at least 40% of the FDA’s 18,000 employees. Companies in recent years have paid between $2.5 million and $3 million to have each drug application reviewed."
My reply to a post in the thread that got deleted about a "mass die-off" among the vaxxed:
How about the mass die off of the unvaxxed ? I was called stupid, told I was playing with fire, ridiculed and badgered for not getting a Covid vax. Lunatics informed me that impending death or disability was certain for the unvaxxed.
Just got back from a leisurely 5K run in the cool, moist December air. It's great to be alive, healthy and unvaxxed, without worry about IgG4 class switching or frameshifted proteins.
My reply to a post in the thread that got deleted about a "mass die-off" among the vaxxed:
How about the mass die off of the unvaxxed ? I was called stupid, told I was playing with fire, ridiculed and badgered for not getting a Covid vax. Lunatics informed me that impending death or disability was certain for the unvaxxed.
Just got back from a leisurely 5K run in the cool, moist December air. It's great to be alive, healthy and unvaxxed, without worry about IgG4 class switching or frameshifted proteins.
This feels like pure satire.
“I am alive so the hundreds of thousands of dead unvaxxed Americans don’t matter”
My reply to a post in the thread that got deleted about a "mass die-off" among the vaxxed:
How about the mass die off of the unvaxxed ? I was called stupid, told I was playing with fire, ridiculed and badgered for not getting a Covid vax. Lunatics informed me that impending death or disability was certain for the unvaxxed.
Just got back from a leisurely 5K run in the cool, moist December air. It's great to be alive, healthy and unvaxxed, without worry about IgG4 class switching or frameshifted proteins.
This feels like pure satire.
“I am alive so the hundreds of thousands of dead unvaxxed Americans don’t matter”
Just hilarious egotism.
The vaxxed dead. The ones infected with Covid at the time of their deaths. None of them are dead from the vax ? The Covid infected vaxxed dead ALWAYS die from the virus and NEVER from the vax ?
The data show one thing, your heart wants another. How will this tension resolve?
Probably by flinging out more anecdotes and frantically trying to discredit anything that goes against what you so desperately want to be true. Such is life of the control group.
Are you friends with George Clooney ? Can you explain to him why he became very sick from Covid despite being vaxxed ? All his wealth and fame can't get him an answer.
“I am alive so the hundreds of thousands of dead unvaxxed Americans don’t matter”
Just hilarious egotism.
The vaxxed dead. The ones infected with Covid at the time of their deaths. None of them are dead from the vax ? The Covid infected vaxxed dead ALWAYS die from the virus and NEVER from the vax ?
Who came up with this scam ?
The vaccine doesn’t kill people, COVID does. It’s not that hard. You just expect the rates of vaccines deaths and COVID deaths to be equal?
(Also note: I was specifically talking about the 300k+ voluntarily-unvaxxed dead Americans… but DanM can’t read. Only spam)
Except we are not, not even in the least, lol. Especially when our brother’s best friend, a 50-year old, very fit cyclist with no coronary artery disease whatsoever now has a pacemaker for the rest of his life after his heart stopped twice. A guy I grew up with. Yet another casualty that will never make its way to VAERS, which is why some of us are inherently cynical about the “official data.” It’s just sad.
Moreover, that paper is looking at T-cell longevity in patients who had already been infected before getting a “booster.” This is not new news. The convalescent part is a key, glossed over point of this research. Moreover, it’s fascinating that nobody ever does this same research looking at convalescence with Delta, then Omicron or puts that same convalescence against 4-5 iterations of the vaccine. Nowhere to be seen, no incentive to prove that natural immunity in the generally young, otherwise fit population is likely superior to vax-induced immunity alone.
It is only multi-vaccinated people among us that are still getting sick. People can observe this for themselves. There is an immune tolerance, immune imprinting phenomenon going on here, not to mention an undermining of nascent immunity. Someone should do a study of these kids getting pneumonia around the world and see how many of them are vaccinated. I haven’t seen such a study.
The data show one thing, your heart wants another. How will this tension resolve?
Probably by flinging out more anecdotes and frantically trying to discredit anything that goes against what you so desperately want to be true. Such is life of the control group.
Right, because you “flinging” out one paper with massive confounders suggesting a potential auto-immune cytokine signature in the unvaccinated, convalescent isn’t an anecdote. We are quaking in our boots.
But, hey, at least you admit there is a true control group, ya know, along the lines of science. You couldn’t get yourself to do that before. But, good job, baby steps, positive steps. Yep, we are the control group and you are the experimental group.
Not to worry, I’d be a bit nervous too if I unnecessarily allowed myself to be injected with this crap when I could’ve cultivated just as good immunity by simply acquiring it. You are in good company.
The vaxxed dead. The ones infected with Covid at the time of their deaths. None of them are dead from the vax ? The Covid infected vaxxed dead ALWAYS die from the virus and NEVER from the vax ?
Who came up with this scam ?
The vaccine doesn’t kill people, COVID does. It’s not that hard.
One of these things is true.
Do you deny any significantly adverse effects from the vaccine?
But, that doesn’t mean certain high risk demographics shouldn’t have gotten it. They should’ve. Not that hard, the nuance.
My reply to a post in the thread that got deleted about a "mass die-off" among the vaxxed:
How about the mass die off of the unvaxxed ? I was called stupid, told I was playing with fire, ridiculed and badgered for not getting a Covid vax. Lunatics informed me that impending death or disability was certain for the unvaxxed.
Just got back from a leisurely 5K run in the cool, moist December air. It's great to be alive, healthy and unvaxxed, without worry about IgG4 class switching or frameshifted proteins.
My reply to a post in the thread that got deleted about a "mass die-off" among the vaxxed:
How about the mass die off of the unvaxxed ? I was called stupid, told I was playing with fire, ridiculed and badgered for not getting a Covid vax. Lunatics informed me that impending death or disability was certain for the unvaxxed.
Just got back from a leisurely 5K run in the cool, moist December air. It's great to be alive, healthy and unvaxxed, without worry about IgG4 class switching or frameshifted proteins.
You’re so brave Dan.
The mass die unvaxxed die offs simply weren't mass enough for him. He needs multi-millions to die for him to notice (see: Hitler Stalin Mao, for inspiration)
My reply to a post in the thread that got deleted about a "mass die-off" among the vaxxed:
How about the mass die off of the unvaxxed ? I was called stupid, told I was playing with fire, ridiculed and badgered for not getting a Covid vax. Lunatics informed me that impending death or disability was certain for the unvaxxed.
Just got back from a leisurely 5K run in the cool, moist December air. It's great to be alive, healthy and unvaxxed, without worry about IgG4 class switching or frameshifted proteins.
Community Note: There was a mass die off of the unvaxxed.
My reply to a post in the thread that got deleted about a "mass die-off" among the vaxxed:
How about the mass die off of the unvaxxed ? I was called stupid, told I was playing with fire, ridiculed and badgered for not getting a Covid vax. Lunatics informed me that impending death or disability was certain for the unvaxxed.
Just got back from a leisurely 5K run in the cool, moist December air. It's great to be alive, healthy and unvaxxed, without worry about IgG4 class switching or frameshifted proteins.
Community Note: There was a mass die off of the unvaxxed.
Did you know that on December 31, 2020, 99.86% of all Americans who should have been alive on that day were, in fact, alive ?
My reply to a post in the thread that got deleted about a "mass die-off" among the vaxxed:
How about the mass die off of the unvaxxed ? I was called stupid, told I was playing with fire, ridiculed and badgered for not getting a Covid vax. Lunatics informed me that impending death or disability was certain for the unvaxxed.
Just got back from a leisurely 5K run in the cool, moist December air. It's great to be alive, healthy and unvaxxed, without worry about IgG4 class switching or frameshifted proteins.
Anyone who told you that is indeed a lunatic or moran who deserves to be ignored. And then if you have any problems about an issue, you can marshal your resources to coming up with a good argument to make in discussion with the sane, logical, and well-informed.
Anyone who told you that is indeed a lunatic or moran who deserves to be ignored. And then if you have any problems about an issue, you can marshal your resources to coming up with a good argument to make in discussion with the sane, logical, and well-informed.
Of course, what I’d have considered the obvious subtext is that you had ample opportunity to listen to reasonable people — those who had reasonable points about risk/reward (i.e., far, far, far from “certain” death and disability — and you either neglected them to fixate on the morans, or you let their arguments morph in your understanding to the moranic one.
Pfizer stock was trading at a 10-year low on Wednesday after the pharmaceutical company revised its 2024 guidance. Its new earnings and revenue projections were below expectations, although it raised its cost-saving targets.
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