This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
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Hey Doc. Did you post your time in the Turkey Trot thread ? Waiting for that from you and the other obnoxious vaxxer loudmouths.
I could post my recent race results (not yet 60, reasonably faster than you, even in age grade%). But what, exactly, would that demonstrate about vaccination?
Attack the messenger. Or the platform. Ignore the stats
This guy is widely known to be full of sh*t (except with delusional)He’s also not a doctor
“John Lorimer Campbell is an English YouTuberand retired nurse educator known for his videos about the COVID-19 pandemic. Initially, the videos received praise, but they later veered into misinformation.[2] He has been criticised for suggesting COVID-19 deaths have been over-counted, repeating false claims about the use of ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment, and providing misleading commentary about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines.[3][4][5] As of June 2023, his YouTube channel had 2.8 million subscribers and over 653 million views” -
John Lorimer Campbell is an English YouTuber and retired nurse educator known for his videos about the COVID-19 pandemic. Initially, the videos received praise, but they later veered into misinformation. He has been criticise...
”In July 2022, Campbell gave an error-filled account of an article published in the New England Journal of Medicine and falsely claimed that it showed the risk to children from COVID-19 vaccination was much greater than the risk of getting seriously ill from COVID-19 itself. The video received over 700,000 views. The article actually showed that COVID-19 vaccination greatly reduced the risk of children getting seriously ill from COVID-19.[23] In October 2022, Campbell uploaded a YouTube video in which he said he was sharing a scandalous “revelation” that the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine did not prevent viral transmission, something he claimed had been hitherto hidden from the public. In reality, Pfizer had openly published at the time of the vaccine's creation that its effectiveness at preventing transmission was unknown and, in May 2021 before he became antivax, Campbell himself had posted a video acknowledging that the vaccine's potential to prevent transmission was unknown.[24] In December 2022 Campbell posted a video in which he made selective use of statistics to make the misleading claim that COVID-19 vaccines were so harmful that they should be withdrawn. The paper he used was in reality only considering hospitalisations from COVID-19 in a short time window, and not the overall vaccine risk/benefit balance. David Spiegelhalter, chair of Cambridge University's Winton Centre for Risk and Evidence Communication, said that such use of the data seemed "entirely inappropriate".[25] In February 2023, nanomedicine specialist Susan Oliver published a YouTube video debunking false information Campbell has posted about vaccine brain injury. Within six hours Oliver's video was removed, apparently because of the content in clips included from Campbell's video, while Campbell's entire original remained online. Oliver speculated this may have been as a result of coordinated complaints made by Campbell's YouTube followers, or that YouTube favoured high-traffic, highly profitable accounts; a YouTube spokesman said the number of complaints received did not affect decisions to remove content.[26] In August 2023, Campbell misrepresented a warning from the CDC, claiming that the CDC had said vaccinated people were more at risk from a new COVID variant than unvaccinated ones. In reality, the CDC had merely said that vaccinated people and people previously infected with COVID were susceptible to the new variant, without making any comparison to the unvaccinated.[27]”
Hey Doc. Did you post your time in the Turkey Trot thread ? Waiting for that from you and the other obnoxious vaxxer loudmouths.
I could post my recent race results (not yet 60, reasonably faster than you, even in age grade%). But what, exactly, would that demonstrate about vaccination?
What would that demonstrate ? Probably not much. A comprehensive analysis of athletic performance among unvaxxed & vaxxed over age 40 would be interesting, but I doubt that any such study is being conducted. I can only speak as an individual B-level runner. Unvaccinated, age 63, male, 5K in 26:57 is the type of result hard core vaxxers do not want to acknowledge.
I am but one data point who was admonished for supposedly playing with fire by remaining unvaxxed. It all seems ridiculous now.
I could post my recent race results (not yet 60, reasonably faster than you, even in age grade%). But what, exactly, would that demonstrate about vaccination?
What would that demonstrate ? Probably not much. A comprehensive analysis of athletic performance among unvaxxed & vaxxed over age 40 would be interesting, but I doubt that any such study is being conducted. I can only speak as an individual B-level runner. Unvaccinated, age 63, male, 5K in 26:57 is the type of result hard core vaxxers do not want to acknowledge.
I am but one data point who was admonished for supposedly playing with fire by remaining unvaxxed. It all seems ridiculous now.
I acknowledge you run a decent time for a person of your age. My 62 year running buddy has gotten 4 or 5 jabs and runs low 23s.
He is but one data point showing how superior vaxxers are. Who knows how fast you could run with a few shots of the mRNA goop?
We have entered a new phase. The multi-vaxxed establishment media lunatics now lie about their latest illness when they are sick and can't go out or go to work.
Once again: I’m multi-vaxxed, nearly as old as you, and waaaayy faster than you. Fewer illnesses and injuries in the last five years than in the previous five.
But my case proves nothing unto itself.
Bring probability distributions. Bring a broad range of well-vetted outcomes.
I could post my recent race results (not yet 60, reasonably faster than you, even in age grade%). But what, exactly, would that demonstrate about vaccination?
What would that demonstrate ? Probably not much. A comprehensive analysis of athletic performance among unvaxxed & vaxxed over age 40 would be interesting, but I doubt that any such study is being conducted. I can only speak as an individual B-level runner. Unvaccinated, age 63, male, 5K in 26:57 is the type of result hard core vaxxers do not want to acknowledge.
I am but one data point who was admonished for supposedly playing with fire by remaining unvaxxed. It all seems ridiculous now.
The large majority of vaxxed and unvaxxed people have zero ill-effects from COVID. That's how it's always been.
Still when big numbers (300M+) are combined with small percentages (0.2-0.8%)... you can still get a lot of dead people!