50+ Masters Training and Racing Open Forum

Meanwhile, out here in California, I splashed through 10 miles in a torrential downpour at 51 degrees. The cul-de-sac on which I live was flooded and many of the roads in my neighborhood had sections of ankle-deep muddy rivers, which made the going slow. You guys in places with real winter aren't impressed.

You’re right amkelley, it was actually pretty nice conditions. It may have looked nasty, but it wasn’t.

Fool's Gold wrote:

Not Buying It wrote:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ehn.org/fruits-vegetables-with-most-pesticides-2632135188.amp.html

"Last fall, a study of about 70,000 people by French scientists found a 25 percent decrease in overall cancer risk for people who ate high levels of organic food compared to people who ate very little or no organic food."

Healthy user bias makes such numbers worthless. Epidemiology is pseudoscince. The reality is: plants cannot run away or fight back physically, so they fight back chemically with Alkaloids, Alpha-amylases, Arsenics, Cellulose, Cyanogenic glycosides, Fiber, Flavonoids, Gluten, Lectins, Mycotoxins, Oxalates, Phenolics, Photosensitizers, Phytic acid, Salicylates, Saponins, Sulforaphane, Tannins, Terpenoids and etc. And yes this includes your cheerful sugary fruits and your comforting fiber-heavy vegetables. The fiber itself essentially operates as a toxin as it is mechanically irritating to the gut and indigestible.

Stupid post and you just showed yourself as a true LRC troll (who would have thought). Or perhaps you're a paid pharma shill trolling the discussion forums to discourage people from eating vegetables & high fiber foods so they'll end up sick with chronic illnesses and need pharma drugs (imagine that). So, you're not fooling me (you sound like YMMV. ?).

A little something on high-fiber intake:

"Dose-response analysis indicated that a 10-g/d increment in dietary fiber intake was associated with a 31% reduction in Barrett's esophagus and esophageal cancer risk."

And cruciferous veggies to the rescue:

On another topic- What is the USATF rule on masters running for certain teams? Does everyone have to live in the same state or local area? Is there some information regarding this on-line?

My understanding is a document has to be sent to your resident association approving a transfer. Even with that there are some restrictions. Several Idaho athletes joined the Hoka Aggies; the transfers were accepted, but they were restricted from counting for the team scores.

Here is a response for a transfer back in the fall:

“in order to transfer your membership to the Pacific Association please use the link below to complete and submit the transfer request to USATF.”

www.usatf.org/Mgmt/Assoc/Forms/Essentials-for-Officers/Association-Transfer-Request.aspx

“If you have any problems, please let me know.”

As you can see the form no longer populated.

Igy

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Winter of 1974-75 we started off living in a drafty house in Ft. Collins .”[/quote]

Ivy, I did not know that you lived inFt Collins ( did know of Santa Monica, OK, Boise)...we are giving Ft Collins consideration as a retirement move.

Question: isn’t Ft Collins generally a bit milder in Winter than Boise?

Best

MF

Igy, not Ivy ?

MikeF wrote:

Winter of 1974-75 we started off living in a drafty house in Ft. Collins .”[/quote]

Ivy, I did not know that you lived inFt Collins ( did know of Santa Monica, OK, Boise)...we are giving Ft Collins consideration as a retirement move.

Question: isn’t Ft Collins generally a bit milder in Winter than Boise?

Best

MF[/quote]

Mike,

I did not find that to be true, but that was decades ago, versus current memory. Boise area is four seasons like clock work. Generally if we get a snow it is melted by noon. In my 23+ years here I never bought snow tires. I live in Eagle currently and would recommend it to friends; for everyone else it’s an awful place.

Igy

Scaled it back a bit for week four of a marathon buildup. Mostly because of family stuff/holidays, but also I was a bit worn out from my return to training.

amkelly, it's inpiring to see you log those miles... whew!

sun, rest

mon, 10.5 medium

tue, 8.7 easy

wed, 5.5 easy. Tired!

thurs, 10.5 med. easy

fri, 5.0 tempo run

sat, 4.6 fartlek on hill course

WEEK44.8 miles

Skipped my club race on Sunday12/1 to drive my son back to college.

Have a fine week!

MikeF,

I asked my wife about Ft. Collins weather, she recalled more wind, and weather fronts. She reminded me that it is about 2,000 feet higher than Boise. Coyote would be your go reference on weather. Nice downtown as I recall.

Igy

Charlie wrote:A history of ≥2000 h of vigorous endurance training, tall stature, abdominal obesity, and OSA are frequently encountered as risk factors in patients with Ln-AF. Fewer than 2000 total hours of high-intensity endurance training associates with reduced Ln-AF risk.

This got me to start thinking "how long does it take to reach the 2000 h threshold?" If two hours of your training out of a week is "vigorous", then that's 104 hrs / yr and 19 yrs and 3 months to get there. If it is only one hour per week, it's 38 and 1/2 years.

So what is "vigorous"? The article says "vigorous activities resulting in intense sweating and deep-breathing." If that's the definition, I would say it's definitely under one hour per week.

M: off.

T-SA: 6 miles.

SU: 8.8 miles.

Thursday's run was actually a little short of 6 miles. (9600m on track.) I was a bit surprised that I ran about three minutes faster on track than on treadmill with the similar level of efforts. (Easy, that is.)

Sunday's run was on a out-and-back bike trail. It was a slight tail wind for the first half and a slight headwind for the second half. So I guess I should be satisfied with the way I closed (4:59-4:54-4:53-4:51 for the last 4km). I did not push it, and the pace felt comfortable.

Saturday will be my last race in the current age group (M50-54). I have to check the weather to figure out how I should approach this half marathon.

I grew up in Fort Collins as a young kid through most of elementary school, returned as a grad student, and then again about 15 years later with my own kids; lived there for something like 22 years. Also been to Boise a few times and they have a very similar feel. Fort Collins is a bit warmer in the winter but cooler during the summer. Front Range weather is crazy, going from 70s one day to a 15" blizzard and 10s or 20s the next day. But overall winter is fairly mild (average high in January is 44 degrees).

“healthy user bias” lol.

Here’s wishing everyone a healthy user bias this holiday season!

Or should I say, best to most?

It is fun to hear about all the TT experiences, and I also enjoy the discussion of finding the proper mileage as you age.

I'm trying to increase volume overall. I've been doing half marathons for 4 years and just now I'm diving into the marathon with one under my belt. I think the most I've ever run in a week is 63 miles.

I ran the half and the mile for UMass '76 - '78, (high school star, college "bub"), post-college mostly worked on career and raced on 20 - 25 mpw for fun. This distance business is new. A nice challenge for a 62-year old. I'm happy to be dipping a toe into the waters of this forum and I appreciate the opportunity to learn.

Funny thing, I don't own a Garmin. Just a $15 dollar Timex with a stopwatch function. So my mileage / pace reports are estimates, except for races and the occasional track workouts. All the best!

65 wrote:

On another topic- What is the USATF rule on masters running for certain teams? Does everyone have to live in the same state or local area? Is there some information regarding this on-line?

The USATF website has changed over the past few weeks and it's now more difficult to navigate. But as of this year and last year, the rules were if you are switching teams, you need to wait 90 days and you do that through your regional association. Teams can have one at large member (someone from outside their region), but I think (don't know for sure) that the at large member can't be from a region that already has active teams.

Big Red wrote:

Funny thing, I don't own a Garmin. Just a $15 dollar Timex with a stopwatch function. So my mileage / pace reports are estimates, except for races and the occasional track workouts. All the best!

I don't own a Garmin either. I own a cheap watch with a stopwatch function but I don't use it for running. My runs are timed to the nearest minute, on the digital clock on my oven, and measured to the nearest 0.1 mile using Google Maps. I love being retro.

I'm a physical scientist by profession, and my work is very quantitative and analytical. Running is something I do for recreation and I treat it very differently. I suppose many of the character traits that contribute to professional success--patience, perseverance, mental stamina, willingness to accept deferred gratification--also serve me well as a runner. But I approach it with a completely different mindset.

I have a Garmin but only use it once in a while to measure progress since I don't race much. I have decided not to be a slave to "the watch" but rather run by feel most of the time. My body lets me know how I am feeling that day and whether to push or hold back. I learned this from my teammate Joe S who lives just up the road from me.

It helps getting the Garmin data. With Minnesota weather I start the Garmin and pull my sleeve over it until I'm done. I knew last nights run was slower with the snow and ice but didn't expect 1 minute per mile slower.