This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
Also amazing how you incessantly respond to people who aren’t even talking to you, but that’s what young, megalomaniacal narcissists do.
I’m off work today. Seems you are off everyday.
Amazing how you let being called out for being wrong get you so riled up (on your day off)
So now you are Harambe (wait, you always were)?
Except I’m not wrong. If we were only talking high risk demographics and I was advocating no vaccine, then you would have a point, except that we were always on the same page when it came to that demographic. It’s just that all your data has failed to risk-adjust for that stratification. And I’m telling the truth about my observation, which is all the Rasmussen poll was really seeking, so that’s not “feelings” or ad hominems, it’s just personal experience even if we do want to call that anecdotal.
Moreover, I would like to see a study comparing natural immunity (humoral and cellular) to four iterations of the vaccine. But nobody has produced it because nobody has motivation to do such a study. But said lack of data doesn’t automatically make natural immunity worse. I have so many family and friends that have proven this very point. Hard to swallow for a pharma guy paid by pharma, I know. Even your beloved CDC published that 3 vaccinations PLUS infection is only incrementally better than ZERO vaccinations plus infection. Compelling.
We are all essentially just chasing the wind. We have essentially the same background, and you will never, ever convince me that natural infection, for my risk group, was worse than vaccination, in any outcome.
Now, if you want to try to put me in the group “responsible for 300,000 extra deaths,” if it makes you feel better, be my guest. Again, 90% of those people should’ve been vaccinated, and we had an arsenal of stuff that would’ve helped for those who still opted out. There’s a new French study showing that HCQ and Z-pak (or doxycycline) GIVEN early enough, at the CORRECT dose, and for a long enough time prevented the worst outcomes in Covid, undermining all the other studies for their obvious shortcomings.
It’s just that all your data has failed to risk-adjust for that stratification. A
No
Ok, tell you what, you’re right. I’m wrong. Are you happy? Your data suggests that, for my risk category, vaccination was equated with marginally better outcomes than natural infection. There you go.
And, yet, you’ll never convince me that I made a poor decision for me. Or that my family and friends who declined the vaccine did. My observations are true, they are not just feelings.
I can only hope that you don’t suffer from autoimmune myocarditis or premature cancer in your life. If it happens, perhaps, perhaps you will have a little retrospection about whether or not you made the best decision. Whether or not maybe, just maybe some “polypharmacy” was a better idea.
Again, chasing the wind. I truly am done here. It’s been fun gentlemen. Covid is gone, unless you have the IgG4 class switch.
Actually only 7% of Americans have taken the new booster.
Have you?
Yes. Check at your local CVS
We got to keep hammering the message at the low income, the Medicaid clinics, and especially the places where poor, mentally ill and/or uneducated frequent. A lot of them mixed up
Amazing how you let being called out for being wrong get you so riled up (on your day off)
So now you are Harambe (wait, you always were)?
Except I’m not wrong. If we were only talking high risk demographics and I was advocating no vaccine, then you would have a point, except that we were always on the same page when it came to that demographic. It’s just that all your data has failed to risk-adjust for that stratification. And I’m telling the truth about my observation, which is all the Rasmussen poll was really seeking, so that’s not “feelings” or ad hominems, it’s just personal experience even if we do want to call that anecdotal.
Moreover, I would like to see a study comparing natural immunity (humoral and cellular) to four iterations of the vaccine. But nobody has produced it because nobody has motivation to do such a study. But said lack of data doesn’t automatically make natural immunity worse. I have so many family and friends that have proven this very point. Hard to swallow for a pharma guy paid by pharma, I know. Even your beloved CDC published that 3 vaccinations PLUS infection is only incrementally better than ZERO vaccinations plus infection. Compelling.
I am also allowed to respond to any post you make. Funny how that works.
I don’t even want to read the other paragraphs. Who cares; you have no data to back up your claims. Cry more.
We are all essentially just chasing the wind. We have essentially the same background, and you will never, ever convince me that natural infection, for my risk group, was worse than vaccination, in any outcome.
Now, if you want to try to put me in the group “responsible for 300,000 extra deaths,” if it makes you feel better, be my guest. Again, 90% of those people should’ve been vaccinated, and we had an arsenal of stuff that would’ve helped for those who still opted out. There’s a new French study showing that HCQ and Z-pak (or doxycycline) GIVEN early enough, at the CORRECT dose, and for a long enough time prevented the worst outcomes in Covid, undermining all the other studies for their obvious shortcomings.
Katalin Karikó and Drew Weissman were awarded this year’s Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for mRNA vaccine discoveries that made highly effective COVID vaccines possible
No posts in months that show anything other than the vaccine works and it’s a smart idea for all people.
I’m closing this book (on my day off)
Yep, 10-4.
There’s no new data period because Covid is over. Omicron, after infection or vaccination ended it. And there’s no impetus to study anything, especially not natural immunity.
We are all essentially just chasing the wind. We have essentially the same background, and you will never, ever convince me that natural infection, for my risk group, was worse than vaccination, in any outcome.
Now, if you want to try to put me in the group “responsible for 300,000 extra deaths,” if it makes you feel better, be my guest. Again, 90% of those people should’ve been vaccinated, and we had an arsenal of stuff that would’ve helped for those who still opted out. There’s a new French study showing that HCQ and Z-pak (or doxycycline) GIVEN early enough, at the CORRECT dose, and for a long enough time prevented the worst outcomes in Covid, undermining all the other studies for their obvious shortcomings.
Le Frenchman Raoult promises if you cram as much HCQ as you possibly can into your butt you won't die of COVID. Show me the phase 3 trial for that! Mon dieu!!