This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
Nah, man, it’s just a lot of smelly dung and dumb apes both masturbating and needing to demonstrate their alpha dominance because they are actually quite primitive.
Nah, man, it’s just a lot of smelly dung and dumb apes both masturbating and needing to demonstrate their alpha dominance because they are actually quite primitive.
I notice you simply refused to engaged with the 5 RCTs that showed minimal or no benefit to all the repurposed drugs you listed! Evidence against dogma is really annoying 😡
Because, as I’ve posited multiple times, they work better synergistically and as an antiviral, anti-inflammatory, anti-thrombotic cocktail in the context of this disease. One off papers about one off drugs that prove they are only mildly effective against Covid are uninteresting and unconvincing. And what you provided was evidence of mild effect, but nothing looking at the entire picture as per usual.
But, of course, you’ll never see published research trying to find a multi/repurposed drug cocktail for Covid or looking very deeply at natural immunity, over time in the literature. Because there is no incentive to do so. It’s almost like you cannot wrap your brain around the fact that the CDC, NIH, FDA just might be incestuous, conflicted, and agenda-filled. But they have “credibility,” because people like my own mother buy the *authority* and the marketing. “Your son went to Johns Hopkins for his MD? OMG, can I suck his dick?
Nah, man, it’s just a lot of smelly dung and dumb apes both masturbating and needing to demonstrate their alpha dominance because they are actually quite primitive.
Vaccines didn’t achieve this alone. Omicron did what the shots alone couldn’t. You are the one who has been pushing boosters (along with the CDC) for populations that don’t benefit from them.
Everyone benefits from boosters. Vaccination (and even more so boosting) greatly reduces the risk of long term autoimmune conditions from COVID.
Right. More like accentuates them. Time will tell.
I’ve been traveling the last couple weeks, stuffed into airports, trains, planes, etc, and somehow I’m immune to the almighty Covid, which I am, despite being unvaccinated. Only my multiple vaccinated friends and family are getting sick. So, yeah, it makes ADE, IgG4 class switching immune tolerance after the booster, and antigenic sin curiouser and curioser.
I have made over 20 return trips on the second busiest air route in world in the last 12 months, not even a sniffle, no mask. All of my vaccinated colleagues (in both towns) that have done the same (some more than me) have not had Covid either, maybe the new flu strain, not sure...no masks etc
What's your point?
Stephen Colbert, one of the biggest purveyors of masks, quarantine, and multiple vaccines has Covid, yet again, after 4-5 vaccines. The groupthink is so thick you can cut it with a scalpel. This is the same guy who, along with his entire audience, needed one Jon Stewart to come along and tell him Covid leaked from the lab in Wuhan. And that it was ok to believe it and say it out loud. Lol. Idiots.
I notice you simply refused to engaged with the 5 RCTs that showed minimal or no benefit to all the repurposed drugs you listed! Evidence against dogma is really annoying 😡
Because, as I’ve posited multiple times, they work better synergistically and as an antiviral, anti-inflammatory, anti-thrombotic cocktail in the context of this disease. One off papers about one off drugs that prove they are only mildly effective against Covid are uninteresting and unconvincing. And what you provided was evidence of mild effect, but nothing looking at the entire picture as per usual.
But, of course, you’ll never see published research trying to find a multi/repurposed drug cocktail for Covid or looking very deeply at natural immunity, over time in the literature. Because there is no incentive to do so. It’s almost like you cannot wrap your brain around the fact that the CDC, NIH, FDA just might be incestuous, conflicted, and agenda-filled. But they have “credibility,” because people like my own mother buy the *authority* and the marketing. “Your son went to Johns Hopkins for his MD? OMG, can I suck his dick?
Yeah bro, cocktails that magically gain efficacy but each ingredient is useless are exceedingly rare (or maybe nonexistent). It’s classic “alternative” medicine and supplement spam tactics.
Making such a claim requires actual evidence. Only one of your drugs listed had any effect on length of illness or hospitalization and was VERY SMALL (aside from dexamethasone… which now is indicated in specific cases!)
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Right. More like accentuates them. Time will tell.
Yes the negative evidence toward your hypothesis will flip to positive evidence… eventually… just like everything else.
Yawn.
Yes, I should’ve caveated it with, “in otherwise healthy people.” The paper you posted, yet again, didn’t stratify the vulnerability among riskiest, risky, and unrisky groups. It just merely asserted that the data supports that vaccines mitigate autoimmunity, period, with all kinds of shaky confounders in the paper.
At some point when you have no evidence except for “antibodies undergo class switching” (something that was discovered 40 years ago) and you still spew the same theories - you have to start wondering if your mental models and decision making are just subpar.
Yes the negative evidence toward your hypothesis will flip to positive evidence… eventually… just like everything else.
Yawn.
Yes, I should’ve caveated it with, “in otherwise healthy people.” The paper you posted, yet again, didn’t stratify the vulnerability among riskiest, risky, and unrisky groups. It just merely asserted that the data supports that vaccines mitigate autoimmunity, period, with all kinds of shaky confounders in the paper.
Yawn.
Noooo 😡😡 this sub population wasn’t assessed! That’s where my evidence is hiding. Nooo 😡😡you need to combine these 6 drugs. Nooo 😡😡in a few years my evidence will appear!
You believed them on the earlier ones but not this one?
By the way, 2% is a fact. Not a premise
The head of the CDC now, and during the fake pandemic, is Jewish. That's all I needed to know to not get a shot. Not to mention Pfizer and J&J having a serious case of the hooked nose.
Because, as I’ve posited multiple times, they work better synergistically and as an antiviral, anti-inflammatory, anti-thrombotic cocktail in the context of this disease. One off papers about one off drugs that prove they are only mildly effective against Covid are uninteresting and unconvincing. And what you provided was evidence of mild effect, but nothing looking at the entire picture as per usual.
But, of course, you’ll never see published research trying to find a multi/repurposed drug cocktail for Covid or looking very deeply at natural immunity, over time in the literature. Because there is no incentive to do so. It’s almost like you cannot wrap your brain around the fact that the CDC, NIH, FDA just might be incestuous, conflicted, and agenda-filled. But they have “credibility,” because people like my own mother buy the *authority* and the marketing. “Your son went to Johns Hopkins for his MD? OMG, can I suck his dick?
Yeah bro, cocktails that magically gain efficacy but each ingredient is useless are exceedingly rare (or maybe nonexistent). It’s classic “alternative” medicine and supplement spam tactics.
Making such a claim requires actual evidence. Only one of your drugs listed had any effect on length of illness or hospitalization and was VERY SMALL (aside from dexamethasone… which now is indicated in specific cases!)
So when Donald Trump was dying with Covid in October 2020 before the vaccine was available, Walter Reed gave him a cocktail including Dexamethasone, Regeneron monoclonal ABs, Remdesivir, zinc, vitamin D, aspirin, Famotidine, and melatonin. Wth, is Walter Reed just a bunch of morons letting the POTUS take an unproven cocktail? Did it not work? Were they trying to kill him off to own the cons?
Zinc is a powerful RNA polymerase inhibitor. You know this. Any allopathic physician could tell you this. There is a lot of research supporting this. But, extracellular zinc in the context of Covid is useless. Zinc needs a powerful ionophore to get it in the cell as a bullet needs a gun. So, it’s simply a matter of what ionophore is the best to get the job done. Two things that by themselves may be useless and bio-unavailable, true.
I am in Italy. Tourist destinations are packed. Robust protection from Omicron infection keeping me safe. Natural immunity rules. Vax lunatics lost a long time ago and My side won.
