Elite male ultra runners do not run 200 milers. Courtney Dauwalter isn't racing against Jim Walmsley (or anyone remotely elite) in the Tahoe 200. Elite women do not win competition 100 mile ultras either.
Elite male ultra runners do not run 200 milers. Courtney Dauwalter isn't racing against Jim Walmsley (or anyone remotely elite) in the Tahoe 200. Elite women do not win competition 100 mile ultras either.
You’re so full of crap. Or, your women’s team really sucked.
Anyone who says Tennis obviously has never played the sport at any competitive level. Serena would lose to most highly ranked juniors, much much less ANY pro. I myself, who was just a decent high school player, was able to beat my college friend, who was the #2 ranked player on her college women's team. She even went on to play some pro tournaments with some success. I had a pretty good serve, and it was something she had a hard time handling. And that is at this micro lower level. Tennis has requires everything from strength to speed. It isn't chess or billiards, which require only skill or brains. It requires all the things that separate women from men athletically.
Tristate wrote:
Tennis
Table tennis.
Shaq wrote:
Harambe wrote:
Worst? Sure.
Don't pro ultrarunners come in behind the #1 female regularly?
Pro in ultra running is kinda undefined still. But if were talking top 20 pro males...they destroy the women. Theres a lot of sorta pros...which is actually just sponsored social media runners.
Camille Herron beat 12hr world record holder Zach Bitter, 2-time Javalina Jundred winner Patrick Reagan, and Courtney Dauwalter at Desert Solstice last yr. She has the best 24hr time of both the men’s and women’s US teams going to the world championship.
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Look at us momm wrote:
Anyone who says Tennis obviously has never played the sport at any competitive level.
Serena would lose to most highly ranked juniors, much much less ANY pro.
I myself, who was just a decent high school player, was able to beat my college friend, who was the #2 ranked player on her college women's team. She even went on to play some pro tournaments with some success. I had a pretty good serve, and it was something she had a hard time handling. And that is at this micro lower level.
Tennis has requires everything from strength to speed. It isn't chess or billiards, which require only skill or brains. It requires all the things that separate women from men athletically.
Tristate wrote:
Tennis
Yep. I've seen schoolboys beat WTA pro's in training sets.
RossiCheated wrote:
Tripeople wrote:
Her time of 8:26:18 would have won OVERALL in 20 of the last 42 Kona Ironmans.
riathlon
Let's look deeper at this, so we can address this with FACTS and not conjecture like we have to with basketball and other sports.
Kona is the top of the sport, the best professionals, competing on the same course on the same day, only separated by a few minutes in start time. Just over fifty of the best men in the world lining up.
2017
Daniela Ryf would have been 32nd in a field of 55 men, and she would have beaten Jan Frodeno by three spots.
2016
Daniela Ryf would have been 31st in a field of 57 men,
2015
Daniela Ryf would have been 24th in a field of 54 men.
2014
Mirinda Carfrae would have been 30th in a field of 53 men.
And it isn't just the top woman who would beat men. In 2018 there were 12 women would have beaten the last male finisher (and there were 9 more men "behind" him who DNFed).
In 2017 all 28 of the women who finished would have beaten the last male pro. There were probably a lot of female age-groupers who would have beaten him as well but I didn't bother to look because the point is proven.
I, and others who wrote “triathlon,” have answered the original question. Read the thread title. The answer is yes, and we proved it.
End thread?
How about equestian?
For the triathlon posters, any theory as to why it is different from most other sports where women can't realistically compete with the men?
RossiCheated wrote:
I, and others who wrote “triathlon,” have answered the original question. Read the thread title. The answer is yes, and we proved it.
End thread?
If you are talking "could it happen on any given day?", then yes, obviously. I don't know the answer to this, but I'll wager that every one of those male pros she beat has a better PR than her, so in a general sense, if everyone is on top of their game, and they know the purpose is M v F, then I would not take the F to win.
Maybe so, depending on whom you might classify as a male pro. But there is a huge difference in level of play male vs female in this game, particularly in speed and strength of smashes and reaction times
Courtney Dauwalter is a solid runner but not against pro men. The moab 240 is not a competitive race. Look at western states in that aspect. 3 hours behind top male
easily peasily wrote:
basketball most likely. There's definitely basketball chicks that can beat the worst NBA players
Not even close. A strong high school boys team can beat the US national women's team in basketball. Any college team can. The physical differences are just too big.
Rhonda Rousey coulda whupped Floyd.
Vancomycin wrote:
This has been truly hilarious to watch. Armstronglivs for LRC idiot of the month (LIotM)?
Harambe wrote:
You got so tied up in your ever-shifting argument that you forgot to re-read the thread title! OOPS!
Precisely.
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
When Paula ran her 2:15 she was the fastest marathoner that year in Great Britain.....man or woman.
So for that year, in the sport of "professional marathon running" in Great Britain, the best woman was better than the best man.
I guess male marathoners in GB didn't dope much in that year.
Oh Please wrote:
RossiCheated wrote:
I, and others who wrote “triathlon,” have answered the original question. Read the thread title. The answer is yes, and we proved it.
End thread?
If you are talking "could it happen on any given day?", then yes, obviously. I don't know the answer to this, but I'll wager that every one of those male pros she beat has a better PR than her, so in a general sense, if everyone is on top of their game, and they know the purpose is M v F, then I would not take the F to win.
What you are trying to do is move the goalposts by asking a different question. That is a way to shoehorn into the M > F narrative.
But the question is better answered, and more true to the original question, by comparing athletes on the same course, the same day, the same conditions, literally side-by-side save for a few minutes in difference of start time.
The top women don’t just beat the worst pro man because he had a bad day. The top women beat about 20-40% of the pro men on a day that those men are supposed to be on their “A game” and shaped their entire season around.
To make matters WORSE for the men, the women aren’t beating the “worst” pro. They are beating the pro men who finish around 40th at Kona. The “worst” pro men don’t even qualify for Kona but are still pros. That would add an additional list of pro men who could get beaten by the Ryf.
Paula Radcliffe has a better PR in the marathon than Droddy
embarrassing backpedaling wrote:
Vancomycin wrote:
This has been truly hilarious to watch. Armstronglivs for LRC idiot of the month (LIotM)?
Precisely.
Pompously.