Is Sebastian Coe the only white distance runner in the top 10?

In no particular order:

Alfredo Shahanga

Alphonce Felix

Alphonce Simbu

Andrew Sambu

Augustino Sulle

Boay Akonay

Christopher Isegwe

Damian Paul Chopa

Dickson Marwa

Emmanuel Gniki

Ezekiel Jafari Ngimba

Fabiano Joseph Naasi

Filbert Bayi

Francis Robert Naali

Gabriel Gerald Geay

Gidamis Shahanga

John Burra

John Nada Saya

John Yuda

Juma Ikangaa

Marco Jospeh

Meschak Koech

Phaustin Baha Sulle

Samson Ramadhani

Samuel Mwera

Suleiman Nyambui

Thomas Robert Naali

Zakariah Barie

Zebedaiyo Bayo

Raddison wrote:

Coevett wrote:

Tanzania had two of the very best.

The doping apologist/Kenyan fetishists here often say that Kip Kenio caused the explosion of talent in Kenya. Why didn't Kenya dominate before the 80's? Because it took Kenio (and a little later Rono) to show young Kenyans that they were the running master race. Odd that it didn't happen in Tanzania after Bayi, who was the WR holder in the flagship event and whose rivalry with Walker was epic.

What on earth is your point about Tanzania?

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oh just stop it wrote:

No you stop wrote:

RUSADA and ARAF were the ones that were caught.

Russian athletes not caught can compete as neutral athletes.

Actually, no. There were allegations against RUSADA but no evidence. No proof.

That's because the Moscow labs destroyed all the evidence and proof.

No you stop wrote:

oh just stop it wrote:

Actually, no. There were allegations against RUSADA but no evidence. No proof.

That's because the Moscow labs destroyed all the evidence and proof.

Lol.

Coevett wrote:

Kip Kenio ... Because it took Kenio

Kip Kenio?

Maybe he meant Keniano?

spelling police wrote:

Coevett wrote:

Kip Kenio ... Because it took Kenio

Kip Kenio?

I miss El K.

Coevett wrote:

I miss El K.

Of course you do. Every bully misses their victim.

And it's Keino.

Just trying to continue the discussion. Unlike a certain clown in this thread, I don't believe East African success is built entirely on PED use.

Raddison wrote:

Coevett wrote:

Tanzania had two of the very best.

The doping apologist/Kenyan fetishists here often say that Kip Kenio caused the explosion of talent in Kenya. Why didn't Kenya dominate before the 80's? Because it took Kenio (and a little later Rono) to show young Kenyans that they were the running master race. Odd that it didn't happen in Tanzania after Bayi, who was the WR holder in the flagship event and whose rivalry with Walker was epic.

What on earth is your point about Tanzania?

In the 1936 Olympics a country dominated the Ice Hockey tournament. They were the only unbeaten team, scored 19 goals and had just 4 goals scored against them and beat the Canadians, who had won all four previous gold medals, 2-1 in the final. Since then that country has been a complete non entity in Ice Hockey.

How can that be???

It was Subway that made the point originally you moran and I was agreeing with it. What the hell has ice hockey in the 1930's got to do with this? Was it NAZI Germany who dominated in 1936, and all the NAZIs and their sympathisers assumed Germans were simply the master race who were genetically superior at ice hockey? Well that would tie in with this discussion a little as it involves similarly racist morans believing that Kenya are genetically superior because they've dominated for 30 years.

The point is you moran that if Italian doctors with their EPO syringes had flocked to Tanzania instead of Kenya in the late 80s/early 90s, then Tanzania would be as dominant as Kenya. Likewise, now that testing is getting stricter in Kenya and even Ethiopia, and Italian coaches are being made to put themselves on registers in Kenya, they are starting to move to Uganda and guess what...Uganda are turning into an East African powerhouse.

Here's the 1980 top list of 1500m times. The best Kenyan is in 52nd - Wilson Waigwa (3:38). Above him are two Tanzanians and one Sudanese athlete.

BTW, notice Said Aouita appearing on the list with a 3:37. He didn't improve on that for another three years until he was in his mid-twenties and suddenly acquired the ability to threaten world records at every distance from 800 to 10000 (after moving to Italy and enlisting Italian and Belgian doctors). Saidipede claims that Aouita could have ran faster during this period spent on the European B circuit if 'he had been pushed', but notice his best time was in a B race in which he came 3rd.

well sadly this will hurt poor coevetts feelings, but.....Coe ISNT WHITE

"His mother, Tina Angela Lal, was of half Indian descent, born to a Punjabi father, Sardari Lal Malhotra, and an English/Irish mother, Vera (née Swan)"

this puts him closer to eastern side of the middle east, but not semitic, thus NOT white. sorry supremacists but coe isnt your poster child. more than likely he was able to run as fast as he did was because of his mixed heritage. El G comes from a country of a history of mixing of races, and thus a top mixed human can be made. spain is only across the channel and thus the same thing. if sebs dad would have gotten with some pasty brit, well seb prob would have only done 1:44-5 and had a set of some jacked teeth

- the poster formally known as m!ndweak

Coevett wrote:

BTW, notice Said Aouita appearing on the list with a 3:37. He didn't improve on that for another three years until he was in his mid-twenties and suddenly acquired the ability to threaten world records at every distance from 800 to 10000 (after moving to Italy and enlisting Italian and Belgian doctors).

lol you think that by giving it a few months and then repeating the same lie it comes true?

What a rotten personality you have dude.

That's 25%. Also, that 25% is from a caucasiod Indian you fool. You do know there be a lot of those in India right?

Great Britain won the Ice Hockey gold in 1936.

The official Coevette reason is all the Italian doctors had been expelled from Canada after the IOC warned Canada that it cannot continue winning Gold indefinitely. They settled in Britain and instantly Britain became a hockey powerhouse. However, a couple of years after the 1936 win the Italians doctors realized that war was coming and so they fled Britain. After the war the Italian doctor diaspora settled in various countries, Sweden, Finland, Russia, Czech Republic, USA and even Canada but none bothered to return to Britain. So those countries have been vying for Hockey Gold ever since and Britain has been left out in the cold.

By the way, it's moron, not moran. Yes I know it's a LetsRun thing and I am sure it was really funny when it first occurred some eight years ago, but after the umpteenth thousandth usage it can only still be amusing to a 12 year old. But then originality is not really your strong suit is it?

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Tanzania has had two world class athletes at the time, but no (zero, 0, niente) other good runners. Kenya has had much more runners of some status. Tanzania was not close to Kenya in the late 1970s/early 1980s (as you claim).

Inquiring minds want to know wrote:

Subway Surfers wrote:

I know one thing, Soulimon is definitely on the sauce.

Who's Soulimon??

Oh gee my guess missed an "e"

Coevett wrote:

you are wrong wrote:

After the 1979 season

19 Kenyans and 1 Tanzanian have run sub 1:47.8 for 800m

15 Kenyans and 2 Tanzanians have run sub 3:41.5 for 1500m

16 Kenyans and 2 Tanzanians have run sub 13:36.6 for 5000m

15 Kenyans and 1 Tanzanian have run sub 28:42.8 for 10000m

3 Kenyans and 0 Tanzanians have run sub 2:20.00 for the Marathon

17 Kenyans and 1 Tanzanian have run sub 8:39.2 for the 3000m St.

The majority of those times were achieved in the 2nd half of the 1970s.

Eh? After the 1979 season the majority of those times were achieved in the 2nd half of the 1970s?

It's just ex runner trolling. In the mid 1970s there had only 2/3 Kenyans faster than Bayi over 800m, not his event, none faster over 1500m or the mile and in 1979 the 5000m season best was 13:12.29 to Mr Suleiman Nyambui (TAN). The "Tanzanians" was used ahead of the word "Ethiopians" in common running phrases back then to justify altitude training.

Raddison wrote:

Coevett wrote:

Tanzania had two of the very best.

The doping apologist/Kenyan fetishists here often say that Kip Kenio caused the explosion of talent in Kenya. Why didn't Kenya dominate before the 80's? Because it took Kenio (and a little later Rono) to show young Kenyans that they were the running master race. Odd that it didn't happen in Tanzania after Bayi, who was the WR holder in the flagship event and whose rivalry with Walker was epic.

What on earth is your point about Tanzania?

If you bothered to go back a couple of pages you would see. Countries with long histories of producing great runners Tanzania, Brazil, NZ, Australia, UK and Belgium lagged badly because epo use wasn't widespread. They lacked Dutch and Italian agents/coaches/doctors while Kenyan, Ethiopia, North Africa, Spain, countries with Moroccans and Dieter B all flourished.