World rankings- top 10 marathon runners

News that went pretty much unreported was who was third in Hengshui Lake marathon among the women. Former great Tirfi Tesgaye in back. Tirfi was among the top ten marathoners in 2012, 13, 14, and 16 according to T&F news rankings. I wonder what her plans will be for the new year. i would love to see her chase more major podiums in either Tokyo or Boston.

Aussiestatman wrote:

Rankerchief wrote:

1. Brigid Kosgei

2. Ruth Chepng’etich

3. Vivian Cheruiyot

4. Gladys Cherono

5. Roza Dereje

6. Mary Keitany

7. Worknesh Degefa

8. Ruti Aga

9. Lonah Salpeter

10. Ashete Bekere

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T. Dibaba

S. Demise

E. Kiplagat

i can live with that, you have done your research. I might add g. Burka and jemeli to make 15.

Jemeli is favourite for Frankfurt in a month.

Aussiestatman wrote:

What time at halfway?

On the subject of times at halfway: why the last two years has the women’s part of the NY marathon been so conservative at halfway?

Aussiestatman wrote:

Rankerchief wrote:

Something like:

11. Kenneth Kipkemoi

12. Leule Gebrselassie

13. Tamirat Tola

14. Asefa Mengstu

15. Herpasa Negassa

16. Emmanuel Saina

17. Titus Ekiru

18. Kaan Kigen Ozbilen

19. Al Mahjoub Dazza

20. Amos Kipruto

Honorable mention:

G. Rupp, G. Kirui, D. Chumba, S. Lemma, F. Kiprotich, S. Tamru, T. Kiplagat, A. Bekele, K. Gezahegn, A. Asefa, S. Deksisa, B. Karoki, W. Kipsang

Shitara in the mix with a win on the Gold Coast.

I am dropping Leule out of my 20 when he pulls out just after halfway just two days after women in Doha put their health on the line. It’s called tenacity, Leule

John Wesley Harding wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

Thinking about the men this fall: Legese over Sisay Lemma in Berlin, geremew wins worlds, cherono beats molla and Farah in Chicago, desisa over kitata in New York. Top eight becomes

Kipchoge

Geremew

L. Cherono

Desisa

Wasihun

Legese

Kitata

Molla, IMO.

So interested if Kamworor or K.Bekele can put in a performance to be in the mix for a year end top ten ranking.

I think Kamworor will win commandingly in New York while Bekele will finish 5th-6th in Berlin.

I would love to see Kamworor focus on Boston in the spring, instead of the world half championships, to try to nab a spot on the Kenyan Olympic marathon team. It’s easier to imagine Kipchoge having an off-day in a hot, unpaced race and Kamworor being there to save the day for Kenya than it is to imagine Kamworor outrunning Cheptegei and the entire Ethiopian contingent over 10,000 on the track.[/quote]

Going to need some changes after bekele aced it in Berlin

Aussiestatman wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

i can live with that, you have done your research. I might add g. Burka and jemeli to make 15.

Jemeli is favourite for Frankfurt in a month.

Gladys on the weakness of one performance drops to the edge of the ten

Aussiestatman wrote:

John Wesley Harding wrote:

So interested if Kamworor or K.Bekele can put in a performance to be in the mix for a year end top ten ranking.

I think Kamworor will win commandingly in New York while Bekele will finish 5th-6th in Berlin.

I would love to see Kamworor focus on Boston in the spring, instead of the world half championships, to try to nab a spot on the Kenyan Olympic marathon team. It’s easier to imagine Kipchoge having an off-day in a hot, unpaced race and Kamworor being there to save the day for Kenya than it is to imagine Kamworor outrunning Cheptegei and the entire Ethiopian contingent over 10,000 on the track.

Going to need some changes after bekele aced it in Berlin[/quote]

Not just bekele, after this sat night, we may think differently about another couple in the top ten. Or do you let go of one average performance or worse, especially in the conditions. And on Bekele: would everyone agree second behind Kipchoge?

Aussiestatman wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

Thinking about a hypothetical. The way I think it will pan out over the fall is: Vivian or Cherono in Berlin in a faster time than New York, Ruth over Aga in the worlds (slow time), Chicago who knows, and Degefa over Mary in New York, breaking the course record. Where would this project these rankings for year-end ones?

So I still think Ruth wins worlds but Dereje and salpeter duel for second in front of Aga.

That will leave it as:

Kosgei

Ruth

Vivian

Degefa

Second at worlds

Keitany

Third at worlds

Cherono

Aga

when the silver and bronze didn’t come from Dereje, Salpeter, and Aga; you can’t include the silver or bronze in this list. But the winner in Berlin now comes in.

Aussiestatman wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

we just need another four to complete a 20, in a hypothetical, with 4 of the top 60 competing in lanzhou as we speak, if one can crush the course record there: would she deserve a place in 17-20 here?

Just considering another four to make this list: maybe B.Dibaba (9th in London, winner Tokyo last year), Meskerem Assefa (4th Boston after two wins in under 2.22 in 2018), Y.Melese (disappointing 11th in Tokyo after two quick performances under 2.21 last year), and Boru Feyse Tadese (hasn’t run since second in Dubai early 2018). They are the veterans, the four up and comers in the mix are Bedatu Hirpa, Dera Dida, Azmera Abreha, and Visiline Jepkesho.

Add Mare Dibaba and Selly Chepnego into this discussion.

Aussiestatman wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

So I still think Ruth wins worlds but Dereje and salpeter duel for second in front of Aga.

That will leave it as:

Kosgei

Ruth

Vivian

Degefa

Second at worlds

Keitany

Third at worlds

Cherono

Aga

when the silver and bronze didn’t come from Dereje, Salpeter, and Aga; you can’t include the silver or bronze in this list. But the winner in Berlin now comes in.

Except the silver was the defending champ and number three from 2017. But her PB still doesn’t compare with the others: 2.24.14 on a record eligible course or 2.22.51 in Boston.

Aussiestatman wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

I think Kamworor will win commandingly in New York while Bekele will finish 5th-6th in Berlin.

I would love to see Kamworor focus on Boston in the spring, instead of the world half championships, to try to nab a spot on the Kenyan Olympic marathon team. It’s easier to imagine Kipchoge having an off-day in a hot, unpaced race and Kamworor being there to save the day for Kenya than it is to imagine Kamworor outrunning Cheptegei and the entire Ethiopian contingent over 10,000 on the track.

Going to need some changes after bekele aced it in Berlin

Not just bekele, after this sat night, we may think differently about another couple in the top ten. Or do you let go of one average performance or worse, especially in the conditions. And on Bekele: would everyone agree second behind Kipchoge?[/quote]

Small adjustments with every big result. You get that when you are looking to the years end before and during the big fall events. Desisa over Geremew but both below L.Cherono if he finishes top two next week?

Agree with most but reserve judgement on Kipserem and Molla. I think you have them in on potential but agree that Molla will be top two in Chicago. Kamworor if he can beat Kitata in NY must be included. Again, mostly on potential. I don’t think Kitata’s London was a step back when considering the top five then.

Aussiestatman wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

Going to need some changes after bekele aced it in Berlin

Not just bekele, after this sat night, we may think differently about another couple in the top ten. Or do you let go of one average performance or worse, especially in the conditions. And on Bekele: would everyone agree second behind Kipchoge?

Small adjustments with every big result. You get that when you are looking to the years end before and during the big fall events. Desisa over Geremew but both below L.Cherono if he finishes top two next week?[/quote]

Only four days until Cherono and Molla test themselves against the best that Britain and the USA can put up.

Molla out of Chicago casts a doubt over him in my ten.

Aussiestatman wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

Just considering another four to make this list: maybe B.Dibaba (9th in London, winner Tokyo last year), Meskerem Assefa (4th Boston after two wins in under 2.22 in 2018), Y.Melese (disappointing 11th in Tokyo after two quick performances under 2.21 last year), and Boru Feyse Tadese (hasn’t run since second in Dubai early 2018). They are the veterans, the four up and comers in the mix are Bedatu Hirpa, Dera Dida, Azmera Abreha, and Visiline Jepkesho.

Add Mare Dibaba and Selly Chepnego into this discussion.

If Hasay can beat burka for second this weekend, does she crash the top 20 party?