Why Do Distance Runners Hate Triathletes?

TRIing wrote:

I own a Nissan Xterra! THat's the only vehicle that will fit all of my gear! Plus, Nissan gave me a $500 discount because I finished 3rd in my age group at a local Mini-Tri(45-49). So, in reality, I am "Sponsored" by Nissan!

Can any of you fag-runners say that you are sponsored by Nissan?!?! ....Probably not!

Someone hijacked my name and postes this. This is not the TRIing who started this thread.

and I still am a fag.

good thread wrote:

thanks for correcting me on what I saw everyday for 5 years. I don't know what I'd do without you.

You apparently need some help, since you were obviously blind.

As far as ego, of course I'm talking with it. Since I wasn't some little pussie whipped whippet I actually had something to have a ego about.

I'm smart enough to know that if your arms are so small you can't even beat yourself off without getting tuckered you develop weird psychotic tendencies. Obvious to see by your messages that they've claimed another victim.

Call bullshit all you want...its the gods honest truth...We've got swimmers going to Iona next year, Truman State, one at Johns Hopkins currently, its a high school in Missouri...I dont want to go around putting these guys names up on the internet...won a national high school soccer title in 2001 (tied with some school in california). We did have 2 swimmers on my xc team when we won state in 2001...but they ran a lot too...twin brothers who go to University of South Carolina I believe, high 16's 5K's in xc...but they also did a fair amount of running in the summer as well as trained 8-9 times in the xc season...guy who couldnt break 6 in the gym class mile is currently being recruited by Brown for swimming/water polo...Other than that, I'm not gonna reveal anything more than that, but obviously i wasnt lying...why would I?...spend 2-3 minutes googling all the info i've given you, and you'll find out i'm not bullshitting.

Jizzmo wrote:

... wrote:

...everyone knows Lance is the greatest endurance athlete ever and he didn't choose triathlon!

That's certainly worthy of debate.

True. He chose to be good at one sport instead of bad at three.

[quote]you were in the wrong sport wrote:

We did have 2 swimmers on my xc team when we won state in 2001...but they ran a lot too...twin brothers who go to University of South Carolina I believe, high 16's 5K's in xc...but they also did a fair amount of running in the summer as well as trained 8-9 times in the xc season...quote]

sorry, menat to say "trained 8-9 times a week for a total of 60 or so miles a week"

Keith Stone wrote:

As far as workouts I've done a 20 miler, 20x400, 8xmile (actually it was a 12xmile from the first Book of Running).

I've also done a 2000 warm-up, 20x100 on the 1:30, 500 easy, 10x200 on the 3:15, 500 easy, 10x25 underwater, 500 kick, 2000 cool-down in the pool.

The running workouts were a piece of cake by comparison.

Keith, could this be due to specificity of training? Had you been swimming as much and as long as you had been running? It was mentioned earlier that in swimming, form is very important. I could do comparable workouts running and swimming, and I can almost guarantee that the "controlled drowning" would be more difficult due to inefficiency.

As for the whole tri-bashing...there are a couple guys I know who fit into the category of yuppie non-athletes. They have their $6000 bike, their special diet, and still are sub-par athletes. Oh, and they shave everything too. The same can be said about some runners, however, the gear factors into the equation with tris. More expensive = faster? Not quite.

Not one serious triathlete or runner I know acts in that way.

Keith,

That swim workout sucks!

I did 3 x 1ks this morning holding 1:15\'s long course.

This is equivalent to 3 x 4ks on the track holding 75\'s.

They are different workouts and one is not easier than the other. It all depends on your personal fitness. I can only do the 3 x 4ks holding 80\'s, unlike the rest of the letsrun posters who can hold 55\'s. They are in better shape than me, but the swim workout would be unfathomable for almost everyone on this board.

miles wrote:

I did 3 x 1ks this morning holding 1:15's long course.

I think you miss the terminology. Some things may have changed when I was a serious swimmer (mid-70's). Back then we did a lot of fixed interval training. So when I say we did 100's on the 1:30, we were swimming the 100'd in 1:05-1:10, resting 20-25 seconds and taking off again. Repeat + recovery = 1:30. No waiting around toward the each or a series to get a bit more recovery.

I personally like to use the same thing for running, but most of the runners I suggest it to practially cough up a furball. It simply a variation of the 40/20 for longer repeats. Keeps you honest. A 200 recovery can take a minute or 3 minutes, using a fixed interval means no lollygaggin' around. Another reason I felt the swimming workouts were tougher.

I didn't know this was the real Keith Stone and I didn't know you took time to swim between hangovers.

Your point was that swimming is more difficult than running. 1:30 interval for longcourse meters is still a slow interval. it's good for warm up. if you feel running is easier and you were swimming these slow of times, you're a better runner than swimmer. It's pointless to call one sport harder. all you have to do is push yourself harder in the sport you're doing. You can canoeing the hardest sport you've ever done if you challenge yourself enough.

p.s. Back in Keith's day, there were guys SWIMMING one hundred miles per week during the fall/winter. You put in a 350-mile week, because that's the equivalent in terms of time at the same effort for national level swimmer/runner, and then get back to me about how hard running training is.

I know there's a difference -- I never woke up sore and walked around sore all day all day when I was swimming. But it's precisely that damage that running does that PREVENTS runners from developing to the level of swimmers, cyclists or cross-country skiers. I'd put Perkins, Indurain or Dahlie up against Tergat in a pure measure of aerobic capacity, any day. No, running is not such a test.

Veritas wrote:

jack of all trades, master of none.

I agree with this - not good enough at swimming, biking or running so they create a new sport. That's why the Olympic distance tri is pretty lame. I am impressed with the Ironman distance though and that should be an Olympic event.

gentlemen, gentlemen!! calm down and let ol' all i do clear this all up. swimmin' and bikin' are fun for kids. hell i even play around a bit myself when i'm not sackin' it up on my daily hardguy workouts. but we all know that paddlin' around and ridin' our li'l bikes ain't for men to do full-time. why? they're not loadbearing activities. the bike and the water hold ya up. shit. real men run. ok? and, as a lot of you tools already pointed out, swimmers and bikers have way more bodyfat. they do. and whoever dies with the lowest bodyfat wins. right?

TRIing wrote:

Everytime a triathlete is mentioned here, you guys bash him. Why?

I think it's because of the jerks. Probably every runner here has experienced the sneering or condescending dismissal of a "triathlete" because we "only do one sport," invariably coming from someone who does three sports badly--someone who couldn't break 50:00 in a 10k, even if he had his bike--but because he's finished a triathlon, he demonstrates his superiority over mere runners. Unfortunately, these guys are the most visible triathletes (they make themselves that way), and so they seem like the majority; it looks like a case of "95% of triathletes are giving the rest a bad name."

I don't like triathletes because I prefer to look like an emaciated, sickly stick boy. This is what really upsets me. The fact that most of them have better looking developed bodies upsets me. I'd rather look emaciated and look more gay than what these other runners are saying.

Also, I can't swim. I would freaking drown if you threw me in a pool or a bathtub.

I can't even swim at all. But I run a 33 10k.

Someone teach me how to swim. I think I will do one of those races and breast stroke because I can't swim.

That bike thing looks easy, maybe I should try that. All I have to do is buy an expensive bike, according to what the 9 year olds are saying here.

This is a funny post! I do triathlons, and laughed at the comments so far. Most are true, and very funny. Just to add my 2 cents, most triathletes train in regular running gear, and are pretty decent athletes. Most of my running buddies would do triathlon if they could swim a lick. I agree with the funny clothes comments - road bikers look similarly silly.

I used to play football (defensive line) in college (Division 1AA) and took up running as a way to loose weight and get in shape. I loved running and still do- But 4 years ago, I started doing tri's to incorporate cross training b/c I started seeing some injuries crop up over the years. My weight stays around 195lbs year round even in the height of marathon training. I'm no elite by any means- my pr's for marathon is a lowly 2:49, 16:18 5k, and 35 min 10k (at 195 lbs.) Like I said, going to triathlon had nothing to do with me thinking I wasn't good enough to keep running only. I could care less what some of you wankers think is a respectable time.

The idiot haters on this pathetic, unwelcoming, flame-zone you call a runner's site really need to stop being hypocrits. Both running and triathlon has elite, front of pack, MOP, and BOP participants AS well as it's share of jackasses that do nothing to promote the sport.

flame away.....

I could see a runner not liking a triathlete simply because the runner trains to the point of not being able to do much else. I know when I was training at a decent level there was no way I'd have the energy to train for anything else, nor the time really. Go ask some of our college and pro greats and they'll tell you if you have so much energy leftover then you should probably be running more than you are.

So that could add to the stigma that triathletes are just mediocre at 3 sports rather than good at any.