Galen Rupp goes home DEVASTATED!!!

lookharder wrote:

DC Wonk wrote:

If there is real evidence verified by external analysis and/or confessions of doping by Rupp, I would absolutely not support him, and his whole career would be tainted, just as it is with pro cyclists.

So then you should be able to understand why people don't support Rupp. Not everyone is going to have the same requirements for thinking that an athlete is cheating. You admit you wouldn't cheer for him if you thought he is cheating, so you can't be surprised that people who think he is cheating don't support him.

But he hasn't been convicted of anything or proven to be cheating. If he's been found out to actually be cheating, then sure, I won't support him either. But the fact of the matter is that no actual evidence that says he is cheating has come out.

Don't know much blah, blah, blah wrote:

username appropriate wrote:

Going into that race, it was billed as a 10k AR attempt. Rupp did run under the existing AR time, thus meaning he met expectations. It was Solinsky who greatly surpassed everything excepted of him and actually set the record.

I don't know where you heard all that, but that's not how it happened. The race was not billed as "a" 10k AR attempt. As the brojo's said afterwards, "The race was billed as a Galen Rupp American record attempt..." The talk about an AR attempt at Payton Jordon only started after Galen decided to run in PA and not at the Oregon Relays.

That Rupp didn't set the AR was a major disappointment.

I guess you had to be there.

It may have been disappointing that he didn't win that day, but the true disappointment there was solinsky. Ever since then, he's choked. He isn't even in the same conversation as Rupp.

Looking forward to the actual letsrun.com news articles about this race. Why are there so many idiots on this website?

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

lookharder wrote:

So then you should be able to understand why people don't support Rupp. Not everyone is going to have the same requirements for thinking that an athlete is cheating. You admit you wouldn't cheer for him if you thought he is cheating, so you can't be surprised that people who think he is cheating don't support him.

But he hasn't been convicted of anything or proven to be cheating. If he's been found out to actually be cheating, then sure, I won't support him either. But the fact of the matter is that no actual evidence that says he is cheating has come out.

El Guerrouj hasn't been convicted of cheating, either. Nor Dibaba. Do you realize that people have different thresholds of evidence to come to a personal conclusion that someone has cheated?

Karl Hungus wrote:

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

*People do not understand asthma

I have asthma, and my first glance at Rupp's bank robber mask was "it's polyester, those things don't warm the air!" I guess I have to wonder with Nike's seemingly unlimited resources, why he wasn't wearing that Bane facemask like he always uses.

I have one of those masks for allergies, but don't wear it in the rain because it gets nasty uncomfortable and would chafe after a while.

Here's a really good review of the men's and women's races mile by mile. Galen dropped somewhere before 30k.

foundit wrote:

Karl Hungus wrote:

This might be the the most accurate thing on this thread.

I don't think you know what "accurate" means.

I don't think you know what a joke is.

Karl Hungus wrote:

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

*People do not understand asthma

I have asthma, and my first glance at Rupp's bank robber mask was "it's polyester, those things don't warm the air!" I guess I have to wonder with Nike's seemingly unlimited resources, why he wasn't wearing that Bane facemask like he always uses.

Not trying to be a dick and say look how stupid you are. That mask is a pollen mask, it doesn't warm the air. I tried one when the pollen was killing me.

TheRunningTroll wrote:

foundit wrote:

I don't think you know what "accurate" means.

I don't think you know what a joke is.

I don’t think you are Karl do, either.

*or

foundit wrote:

TheRunningTroll wrote:

I don't think you know what a joke is.

I don’t think you are Karl do, either.

I don't even understand what you were trying to say...

lookharder wrote:

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

But he hasn't been convicted of anything or proven to be cheating. If he's been found out to actually be cheating, then sure, I won't support him either. But the fact of the matter is that no actual evidence that says he is cheating has come out.

El Guerrouj hasn't been convicted of cheating, either. Nor Dibaba. Do you realize that people have different thresholds of evidence to come to a personal conclusion that someone has cheated?

you mean the difference between facts and opinions? (no evidence has been presented...)

Montesquieu, if you read the link you posted, you'd have seen that it is cold, dry air that is problematic, not cold, humid air.]

"Cold, Dry Air

Dry and/or cold air is a trigger for airway narrowing (bronchoconstriction).

Cold air can especially affect you if you have exercised-induced bronchoconstriction (EIB). It is also called exercised-induced asthma.

When you exercise, you breathe faster and deeper because your body needs more oxygen. You usually inhale through your mouth, causing the air to be dryer and cooler than when you breathe through your nose.

Exercise that exposes you to cold, dry air is more likely to cause asthma symptoms than exercise involving warm and humid air."

lookharder wrote:

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

But he hasn't been convicted of anything or proven to be cheating. If he's been found out to actually be cheating, then sure, I won't support him either. But the fact of the matter is that no actual evidence that says he is cheating has come out.

El Guerrouj hasn't been convicted of cheating, either. Nor Dibaba. Do you realize that people have different thresholds of evidence to come to a personal conclusion that someone has cheated?

Riiiiiiiiiiiight. I am sure youd say that to a girl when she asks you how much money you make.

seriously???? wrote:

jamin wrote:

Weather can't be a valid excuse. I know people who PRed today.

Look at the top 5 women today and their times? You think weather played no part? Idiot.

Late arrival but 2nd n+1 to say that jamin is a complete idiot. Conditions were very tough.

Anyone who has trained hard then bonked while racing 26.2 miles shouldn't find joy in another runner not finishing.

Kind of cool the non-coddled did well today. Kind of the anthesis of the Sub-2:00 Project.

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

His asthma has caused him problems in cold races in the past, but they have generally been unimportant or shorter races, so it wasn't a huge deal to slog it in to the finish in 10th place or whatever. It's a little different in a 2+ hour race.

Not aware of Rupp "slogging it to the finish in 10th place" ever. If you have an asthma attack you can't breath. You can't finish a race of any duration.

got one wrote:

Karl Hungus wrote:

I have asthma, and my first glance at Rupp's bank robber mask was "it's polyester, those things don't warm the air!" I guess I have to wonder with Nike's seemingly unlimited resources, why he wasn't wearing that Bane facemask like he always uses.

I have one of those masks for allergies, but don't wear it in the rain because it gets nasty uncomfortable and would chafe after a while.

Rupp wears the mask for pollen -- for example when he races in Eugene in June.