Why do non - religious people get married in churches?

obtuse triangle wrote:

theJeff wrote:

Why would the Jews consider the Trinity a perversion of Yahweh if they were the same God? You absolutely supported my point.

If God is eternal, he didn’t “show up”. That is like asking what the color blue smells like.

Are you always so obtuse? Why would they want people borrowing their deity and changing the narrative?

You're saying there IS more than one God now?

I know you understood what I meant by show up but just in case when did God start talking to you guys and being involved on a speaking basis?

If God was eternal the Bible would be a lot older than it is.

Jesus himself reinterpreted Jewish scriptures. Read Matthew 5, for example. What you are ascribing to early church leaders was done, at least in part, by Jesus himself.

I am gonna let someone more educated than myself tackle the Trinity, but tldr: One God in Three Persons. The Bible ascribes all of the attributes of the one God to Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. #TrinitarianMonotheism

Adam. Day 7 (depending on what is meant by a “day”, obviously ?)

This last one is a little silly. Regardless of what the Truth is, it happened well before humans started writing.

Not sure I translated this correctly, but: nothing about Christianity requires you to believe that the earth is 6000 years old. I could just as easily (and falsely) say that all atheists support genocide.

theJeff wrote:

I feel like I have reasonably addressed your concern; now please answer my question.

Right back at ya.

I'm still wondering what corroborates the gospels, what corroborates any of the creation or salvation myths, and what man innately knows about a creator.

theJeff wrote:

Jesus himself reinterpreted Jewish scriptures. Read Matthew 5, for example. What you are ascribing to early church leaders was done, at least in part, by Jesus himself.

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Hello Jeff! He was plagiarizing someone else's work and God then.

Another guy came along and did the same a bit later. You may have heard of him. Mo something or other.

Same God every time. Different favorite son.

I'll just say this, Jeff.

The concept of God was clearly a creation of primitive man and very primitive minds, and if the UN were to convene a committee - of the World's greatest thinkers- to judge the merits of if there is/isn't a God, then I'd bet my life that they would come to the conclusion that there is no God.

Jeff, go and look at the evidence again, and not just Christian propaganda.

Rato. wrote:

When scientists find cartilage and soft tissue in dinosaur bones that were supposed to be millions of years old and do not question their theory and timelines the I have a serious issues with it.

Please elaborate. What exactly are you suggesting, here?

theJeff wrote:

I am gonna let someone more educated than myself tackle the Trinity, but tldr: One God in Three Persons. The Bible ascribes all of the attributes of the one God to Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. #TrinitarianMonotheism

Adam. Day 7 (depending on what is meant by a “day”, obviously ?)

This last one is a little silly. Regardless of what the Truth is, it happened well before humans started writing.

The trinity isn't mentioned in the bible in the first place. Anywhere. At all.

So it's a doctrine that is not found anywhere in the bible and was only invented as an interpretation, like so much else.

And, like so much else in the bible, it's borrowed from earlier religions and cultures. Rome had its trinity, Persia had its own, Babylon, Greece, Phonecia, etc.

Kind of a nonsequitor and must be taken on faith, as it is completely devoid of any sort of logic or rational explanation. Funny how much Christianity depends on "faith" to explain all of the problems with the fundamental aspects of the religion.

This thread is shrinking.

It's gone from six pages to five...

antitheist wrote:

Rato. wrote:

When scientists find cartilage and soft tissue in dinosaur bones that were supposed to be millions of years old and do not question their theory and timelines the I have a serious issues with it.

Please elaborate. What exactly are you suggesting, here?

Do your own research and get back to me.

theJeff wrote:

Rato. wrote:

When scientists find cartilage and soft tissue in dinosaur bones that were supposed to be millions of years old and do not question their theory and timelines the I have a serious issues with it.

Not sure I translated this correctly, but: nothing about Christianity requires you to believe that the earth is 6000 years old. I could just as easily (and falsely) say that all atheists support genocide.

Maybe not 6000, but certainly not 4.5 billion years old. That timeline is required to feed to lie of evolution.

Rato. wrote:

Maybe not 6000, but certainly not 4.5 billion years old. That timeline is required to feed to lie of evolution.

I'm curious what sort of response you're expecting here?

Why even post something like this?

Rato. wrote:

antitheist wrote:

Please elaborate. What exactly are you suggesting, here?

Do your own research and get back to me.

That tells me that you know little to nothing about the subject and are either trolling for attention, or are so confused about science and history that you'll say anything in a desperate attempt to learn.

Rato. wrote:

but certainly not 4.5 billion years old. That timeline is required to feed to lie of evolution.

lol. An eternal being should have it being even older.

antitheist wrote:

Rato. wrote:

Do your own research and get back to me.

That tells me that you know little to nothing about the subject and are either trolling for attention, or are so confused about science and history that you'll say anything in a desperate attempt to learn.

What's your stance on this then, please explain the science and history. When answering please remember it is the 'theory of evolution'.

bored so did a little Creation wrote:

Rato. wrote:

but certainly not 4.5 billion years old. That timeline is required to feed to lie of evolution.

lol. An eternal being should have it being even older.

Cell walls without DNA, DNA without cell walls. Just one of the many holes in this lie. I could go on, but am off to church now. Have a great Christmas and try to find some time for the superficial, meaningless aspects of this time of year.

Rato. wrote:

antitheist wrote:

That tells me that you know little to nothing about the subject and are either trolling for attention, or are so confused about science and history that you'll say anything in a desperate attempt to learn.

What's your stance on this then, please explain the science and history. When answering please remember it is the 'theory of evolution'.

My stance is that you need to read up on theories since you're obviously quite confused about them.

Maybe drop a pen on the floor and get started with the theory of relativity and how that relates, to, you know, gravity? Then go with theory of plate tectonics? Game theory? Quantum theory?

You have a lot of reading ahead of you...

Rato. wrote:

bored so did a little Creation wrote:

lol. An eternal being should have it being even older.

Cell walls without DNA, DNA without cell walls. Just one of the many holes in this lie. I could go on, but am off to church now. Have a great Christmas and try to find some time * for the superficial, meaningless aspects of this time of year.

*Beyond