Women runs 520 miles on treadmill in 7 days but doesn't get WR as Guinness says her witness doesn't count

So now this whole thread is going to DQ her 521 mile treadmill record because some no-name local newspaper can't get the units right? Fortunately Amy's charity partners are not vulnerable to such dissension.

You are exactly right, it should have been 521 kilometers but Amy's smart boyfriend got it all wrong.

ExpertKipWatcher wrote:

Shroppy wrote:

So now this whole thread is going to DQ her 521 mile treadmill record because some no-name local newspaper can't get the units right? Fortunately Amy's charity partners are not vulnerable to such dissension.

No, someone was simply pointing out an issue with self-measured "courses" in this kind of situation - you do realise that to be called a recognised Marathon, a race permit will need to have been obtained which will have to have a certificate of course distance accuracy measured with a Jones Counter ?

OK, say it's 520 miles (like LRC headline says) instead of 521. That's still enough for the record. If Guinness wanted Strava data on Power of 10, then they should have named the record "Most Treadmill Distance in a Week while livestreaming Strava to Power of 10".

Another day another scammer wrote:

You are exactly right, it should have been 521 kilometers but Amy's smart boyfriend got it all wrong.

In all seriousness, an independent observer setting up and calibrating the treadmill and certifying the units used would be a minimum requirement - although treadmills can be set to use miles, every one I have ever used in the UK has been set up to display KM.

In my experience, most treadmills in the UK default to displaying information in KM however there is usually an option on the screen to change the display to Miles (or at least there is one the ones at the two gyms I frequent).

Also, in her defence, I can't imagine she was running 75KM per day. With the rest and fuel breaks she would still be travelling at a pace of a easy walk and in the videos she was certainly jogging.

Less than 0.2% error wrote:

ExpertKipWatcher wrote:

No, someone was simply pointing out an issue with self-measured "courses" in this kind of situation - you do realise that to be called a recognised Marathon, a race permit will need to have been obtained which will have to have a certificate of course distance accuracy measured with a Jones Counter ?

OK, say it's 520 miles (like LRC headline says) instead of 521. That's still enough for the record. If Guinness wanted Strava data on Power of 10, then they should have named the record "Most Treadmill Distance in a Week while livestreaming Strava to Power of 10".

No the proof Guiness required was fairly minimal. She still didn't meet that

Is her 52 in 53 marathon listed as a Guinness world record? Surely some evidence such as Strava would be required for a 'world record' Every man and his dog is using Strava surely someone attempting a world record would use it, especially as she would need a Garmin to measure the courses.

I can see this one running and running (on a treadmill for an unsubstantiated but nonetheless record breaking distance.)

This one has got scam written all over it.

There's a few things that set the alarm bells ringing for me:

Firstly there is no verifiable data on the 53 marathons in 53 days challenge. Secondly, she failed to get independent observers for her 7 day treadmill WR attempt. Tertiary the biggest benefactors of donations made during the challenge(s) would of been the 53 foundation, which Amy and her partner are the trustees.

I'm not accusing anyone of anything however, the lack of transparency or sufficient monitoring around the two events (53 Marathons / 53 Days, 7 Day Treadmill WR) will undoubtedly lead many to speculate as to the validity and motives of the claims.

Less than 0.2% error wrote:

OK, say it's 520 miles (like LRC headline says) instead of 521. That's still enough for the record. If Guinness wanted Strava data on Power of 10, then they should have named the record "Most Treadmill Distance in a Week while livestreaming Strava to Power of 10".

Your lack of understanding of the issues here is quite amusing, Strava is nothing to with Power Of 10. Power of 10 is a database of performances in races, it does not hold anything like Strava does. With a footpod you could actually use a Garmin on the treadmill, this would have allowed a Strava upload that would actually mean something for the treadmill part.

The requests for Strava information relates to the claim of 53 Marathons.

Where Power of 10 came into things originally is that this is the first place we go to in the UK to assess the demonstrated ability of a runner in competitions. If there had been say a number of quick ultradistance results on there then we would have assessed things from a different starting point.

WherestheMoney wrote:

We need full transparency.

Amy needs to post the data relating to the 53 marathons in 53 days. Was it recorded on a GPS sports watch?

Amy needs to show evidence that the treadmills used in the 7 day event were calibrated, that the distance covered was as stated (521 miles) and that she ran the whole distance. I haven't seen that posted any where yet. Witness statements from people with a known relationship to her do not count.

Further to this I would like to see Amy publish the breakdown on how much of the donations from the 53 marathon and 7 day treadmill event went on 'expenses' and how much was actually donated to good causes.

Without doing the above I'm afraid doubts will always follow Amy.

+1

YorkieCoach wrote:

In my experience, most treadmills in the UK default to displaying information in KM however there is usually an option on the screen to change the display to Miles (or at least there is one the ones at the two gyms I frequent).

With Life Fitness Treadmills (the ones I have had most experience with), to change from KM to miles you need to know how to access the service menu which is a specific key combination you would not guess.

ExpertKipWatcher wrote:

YorkieCoach wrote:

In my experience, most treadmills in the UK default to displaying information in KM however there is usually an option on the screen to change the display to Miles (or at least there is one the ones at the two gyms I frequent).

With Life Fitness Treadmills (the ones I have had most experience with), to change from KM to miles you need to know how to access the service menu which is a specific key combination you would not guess.

After 3 seconds of google search

How do I get into the diagnostics mode on my LifeFitness treadmill?

Classic 9100 and 9500 Treadmills

Press the START key once.

Press the CLEAR key twice.

Press the number keys 9-1-9.

Press the ENTER key.

Next Generation 9100, 9500HR, 9700HR, 9700HR with Decline Treadmills

Press and hold the "Pause" key while pressing the "Clear" key twice.

Midline 8500 Treadmill

Press the "Stop" key twice.

Press and hold the Incline Up arrow key.

Midline 9000 Treadmill

Press and hold the "Pause" key while pressing the "Clear" key twice.

T9i Treadmill

Press and hold the "Jog" key while pressing the "Stop" key twice.

97Ti, 95Ti, and 93T Treadmills

Method 1:

Press and hold the "Pause" key until SERVICE MENU appears.

Press the "Stop" key.

Method 2

Press and hold the "Pause" key until SERVICE MENU appears.

Press the "Clear" key twice.

97Te and 95Te with LCD Display Treadmills

Starting at the Workout Selection screen, press and hold the "Cool Down" key and double tap the LF icon in the top right of the screen.

Lifefitness guru wrote:

After 3 seconds of google search.

Which part of "a specific key combination you would not guess" was confusing ?

Are there any logs, blogs, reports, etc. I can read about the 53 in 53? I would like to know how each day went. How long did each "marathon" take? Were they run in one shot or were lengthy two to 4 hour breaks taken between sets 9 mile runs. Was it 26.2 miles on a day vs. 26.2 miles within 5 hours? How were the routes chosen? Given that each one was in a different city, how does one determine a 26 mile route?

Here is a interview with Amy

15 minutes into the video

"I didn't know what I have done...."

"I was loosing kilometers and miles"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbQmEiQAFRU

84 views so far. More viewership than Darren Kavinoky at least.

SusieQ56532 wrote:

Are there any logs, blogs, reports, etc. I can read about the 53 in 53? I would like to know how each day went. How long did each "marathon" take? Were they run in one shot or were lengthy two to 4 hour breaks taken between sets 9 mile runs. Was it 26.2 miles on a day vs. 26.2 miles within 5 hours? How were the routes chosen? Given that each one was in a different city, how does one determine a 26 mile route?

Nope. It's all top secret.

Some people say she didn't even run the Marathon distance every day but that is not verified yet.

Haha skipped straight to the full distance... typical

I guess all collegiate and elite track athletes don't run the full distance.

Dave Keighley is getting the lawyers involved.

Good for him.

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Dave Keighley

6 hrs ·

It really is a sad reflection on society.

Amy went and took on a massive challenge, made it the most public she could. Because Guinness guidelines are a bit fuzzy she did t get the record. We are trying to speak with Guinness but they don't have an appeal. Those that know us know we are 100% honest and trustworthy and now a small minority feel they can:

Question Amy's attempt

Call her a cheat

Tell her she is not a good runner

Body shame her

Question Amy and myself' integrity

And now question out charity and the money raised and where and IF we have given money to people or pocketed it.

We have been open and honest from day one maybe we made a mistake? Maybe Guinness have but because Guinness release a statement people take that as gospel. They have made many mistakes before why not now?

It is at the point now where I have had to take the decision to get a legal team involved.

We accept that when you have a public profile you are open to criticism (constructive is fine) but vile bullies questioning us and our charity will not be tolerated.

I wonder if I named and shamed them on social media and they got loads of incoming what the reaction would be?!

++++1111!!!!

Independent Observer wrote:

Deflection wrote:

I note on her numerous social media accounts that she is just deflecting and focusing on haters saying bad things about body image and / or running pace.

She's yet to address on of the concerns relating the recording of the data in both the 7 day treadmill run and the 53 marathons, and the #JusticeforAmy hashtag is truly cringeworthy. There are no injustices here from GWR...the only injustice would be granting a WR to a runner without the required proof.!

How about #JusticeforSharon (Gayter)?

Getting a lawyer involved. It's all gone a bit Mike Rossi