Breaking: Matthew Centrowitz has been scratched from the 2017 Bowerman Mile

Roberto Cordner wrote:

willis the drafter wrote:

Walker broke 3:50 a couple of times and Coe ran the last 800 of his PR alone.

Walker and Coe were both better than Willis.

People forget Walker spent the time from '77 to '83 or so suffering from compartment syndrome - or something else - that caused constant cramping and didn't allow him to train as he did up through 1976. The Brits know this but are very good at never mentioning it, lest it make any victories Coe or Ovett had over Walker less spectacular. Walker's problems were covered extensively by Nelson and Quercetani in "The Milers".

Walker at his best was a better runner than Wills, as was Coe. Walker was a stronger runner than Coe, as Seb would never have been able to hang with the big Kiwi over 2k. Seb was more toward the speed end of things.

When Walker's cramping problem was solved he was suddenly able to train as he had in the past and it made little difference.

He set a marginal Mile PR in '82 but he was never as good as the Brits. They raised the game a bit.

willis the drafter wrote:

Ludd wrote:

How many sub 3:30s did Walker manage? Willis has done it twice, once more than Coe and a better pr than 3:29.77, I believe. Makhloufi has not competed yet and is one of the only big guys not in the race. Why?

Walker broke 3:50 a couple of times and Coe ran the last 800 of his PR alone.

Walker and Coe were both better than Willis.

Willis is lighter than Walker. Walker would have been faster in his prime had he gotten a hair cut, darn hippies.

Just wow... wrote:

malmo wrote:

No I don't get flu shots. Flu shots are for little girls and effeminate men. I'm neither.

Why are you imagining things? He said he's feeling under the weather. Why isn't that good enough for you?

Whether what Centro Jr. said is a reasonable excuse for scratching is dubious, and certainly open for debate, which is what this thread is all about. It's what you are saying that is ridiculous.

Debate or speculation?

malmo wrote:

Are you really that ignorant? Flu season is just when there are high incidences of it. The flu virus dosent disappear after winter. I get the flu almost every Summer like clockwork. Had it just two weeks ago.

I don't get the flu shot either, mostly bc I haven't had it in almost 30 years and also bc I'm lazy about stuff like that.

However, someone pointed out to me that even if I can handle the virus, if I pass it on to someone with a weak immune system (elderly, child, otherwise compromised, etc) then that's pretty irresponsible. Anyway just food for thought.

Walker's 1500/mile days were a thing of the past in 82 which is why he moved up to the 5000m.

5K Walker wrote:

Walkem down wrote:

When Walker's cramping problem was solved he was suddenly able to train as he had in the past and it made little difference.

He set a marginal Mile PR in '82 but he was never as good as the Brits. They raised the game a bit.

Walker's 1500/mile days were a thing of the past in 82 which is why he moved up to the 5000m.

Why would those days be past if he was as fast as ever? He ran the 1500 in Helsinki the next year.

His days were "over" because the rest of the world had moved ahead of him at the event.