Olympic Truth wrote:
I have money, career, family, education. So I'm good with logic.
The way you reach this conclusion here is what you call logic? This is your problem.
Your argument that "All elites dope because all elites dope" is an example of a common mental pathology named "Begging the Question".
Try reading this,
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/fallacies/Olympic Truth wrote:
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:"I *know* most of the name guys, and they are all dirty"
Please.
Who is this clown? I haven't been following his trolling. Does he have a name (since he is a famous Olympian who knows all the best T&F athletes and who hangs out with Michael Phelps) ? I mean, he's got to be very famous, right? So......who is our Olympic insider?
I'm not famous, but I met and went out with alot of the US guys because I helped train 1 guy and knew a few guys. I ran for another country and I gave this board a fake age in order to keep the people from not finding out who Iam. Who would reveal their name of this board?? I was OK 10.3 PR mostly 10.4 and 10.5 in the mid to late 90s. I knew Tim M, most UCLA guys, met Gatlin, the deca guys, hang out with Kevin Young, Warner, Phelps etc.
I am not a clown. Why would you start with trying saying something negative. If this is followed by more negative stuff. I wont respond. But if you have a genuine interest in saying someone is clean because of this or that please discuss. I got 1 finalist in the 800 and 2 marathon runners, that I think are clean. But read the 1 post first
10.3s, 10.4s, and 10.5s. These are High School times. You expect us to believe you're an Olympian and rub shoulders with real elites?
Still, you cannot explain why you think Rudisha dopes. You have no reasons.
Olympic Truth wrote:
I'm not famous, but I met and went out with alot of the US guys because I helped train 1 guy and knew a few guys. I ran for another country and I gave this board a fake age in order to keep the people from not finding out who Iam. Who would reveal their name of this board?? I was OK 10.3 PR mostly 10.4 and 10.5 in the mid to late 90s. I knew Tim M, most UCLA guys, met Gatlin, the deca guys, hang out with Kevin Young, Warner, Phelps etc.
I am not a clown. Why would you start with trying saying something negative. If this is followed by more negative stuff. I wont respond. But if you have a genuine interest in saying someone is clean because of this or that please discuss. I got 1 finalist in the 800 and 2 marathon runners, that I think are clean. But read the 1 post first
Ok, so you want to hide behind a "I'm an Olympic Insider who knows all these elite athletes therefore.......you need to trust me" line? Dude, this is the internet, we weren't born yesterday. You're a phony. 10.5 (if that is even true) ? How did THAT land you your "Olympic Insider" angle?
Why should we believe you? And I bet you you are the ONLY "insider" that thinks that virtually every finisher in in every running event was doped.
I will give you a list of people I believe are clean later. But it's not a short list.
Agreementt wrote:
I believe Tyson Gay is clean now. He learned his lesson and took it pretty hard when he got pinched.
I thought that too. But he could just old. Has he run under 10. I gotta see his times.
Sopwith Camel wrote:
All this talk about elite athletes being dirty, and
Well it's just talk.
That's the point of the thread. Have a discussion to get a better understanding of track in general
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
Olympic Truth wrote:I'm not famous, but I met and went out with alot of the US guys because I helped train 1 guy and knew a few guys. I ran for another country and I gave this board a fake age in order to keep the people from not finding out who Iam. Who would reveal their name of this board?? I was OK 10.3 PR mostly 10.4 and 10.5 in the mid to late 90s. I knew Tim M, most UCLA guys, met Gatlin, the deca guys, hang out with Kevin Young, Warner, Phelps etc.
I am not a clown. Why would you start with trying saying something negative. If this is followed by more negative stuff. I wont respond. But if you have a genuine interest in saying someone is clean because of this or that please discuss. I got 1 finalist in the 800 and 2 marathon runners, that I think are clean. But read the 1 post first
Ok, so you want to hide behind a "I'm an Olympic Insider who knows all these elite athletes therefore.......you need to trust me" line? Dude, this is the internet, we weren't born yesterday. You're a phony. 10.5 (if that is even true) ? How did THAT land you your "Olympic Insider" angle?
Why should we believe you? And I bet you you are the ONLY "insider" that thinks that virtually every finisher in in every running event was doped.
I will give you a list of people I believe are clean later. But it's not a short list.
WHy should I believe you? I never claimed insider. You said that. WHy trust you? Your a phony never was , this is the Internet, so ???
I went for another country and I ran track here in the US and around the world, so I met people. And another Olympian came from the same town. He was younger and I helped him until college. We trained togetther everyday his Jr and Sr. year. He went on to win Medals. He and I would talk daily about what goes on, and he started using his Sr. year and he got good real fast. Then he plateaued by the end of his Soph in college, started using something else, and boom all his times dropped.
Just name 1 right now. But read the 1st post as it will dq most of the people you think are clean.
The Logician wrote:
Olympic Truth wrote:I have money, career, family, education. So I'm good with logic.
The way you reach this conclusion here is what you call logic? This is your problem.
Your argument that "All elites dope because all elites dope" is an example of a common mental pathology named "Begging the Question".
Try reading this,
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/fallacies/
I actually never said that and if you actually read any you might be able to logically think you would come to the conclusion that most dope to compete. I took it the REAL level they all dope. Why would I waste my time and read Philosophy? I would rather read a Journal on PEDs Bardin, W.C. 1996. The anabolic action of testosterone. New England Journal of Medicine, 335 (1), 52–53.
And other such references. Philosophy is good and it can assist me in communicating in an intellectual/logic way. But I don't need that to have a basic understanding of GAY and GATLIN got caught for using and BOLT crushes them. How is he clean? Read Speed Trap. Look up stuff in google scholar. My "bad" logic got me 3 degreess and published in Journals and the WSJ, so I'm good bro.
Olympic Truth wrote:
The Logician wrote:The way you reach this conclusion here is what you call logic? This is your problem.
Your argument that "All elites dope because all elites dope" is an example of a common mental pathology named "Begging the Question".
Try reading this,
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/fallacies/I actually never said that and if you actually read any you might be able to logically think you would come to the conclusion that most dope to compete. I took it the REAL level they all dope. Why would I waste my time and read Philosophy? I would rather read a Journal on PEDs Bardin, W.C. 1996. The anabolic action of testosterone. New England Journal of Medicine, 335 (1), 52–53.
And other such references. Philosophy is good and it can assist me in communicating in an intellectual/logic way. But I don't need that to have a basic understanding of GAY and GATLIN got caught for using and BOLT crushes them. How is he clean? Read Speed Trap. Look up stuff in google scholar. My "bad" logic got me 3 degreess and published in Journals and the WSJ, so I'm good bro.
Degrees from a country that sends 10.5 sprinters to the Olympics?
You live a delusion.
The Logician wrote:
Olympic Truth wrote:I'm not famous, but I met and went out with alot of the US guys because I helped train 1 guy and knew a few guys. I ran for another country and I gave this board a fake age in order to keep the people from not finding out who Iam. Who would reveal their name of this board?? I was OK 10.3 PR mostly 10.4 and 10.5 in the mid to late 90s. I knew Tim M, most UCLA guys, met Gatlin, the deca guys, hang out with Kevin Young, Warner, Phelps etc.
I am not a clown. Why would you start with trying saying something negative. If this is followed by more negative stuff. I wont respond. But if you have a genuine interest in saying someone is clean because of this or that please discuss. I got 1 finalist in the 800 and 2 marathon runners, that I think are clean. But read the 1 post first
10.3s, 10.4s, and 10.5s. These are High School times. You expect us to believe you're an Olympian and rub shoulders with real elites?
Still, you cannot explain why you think Rudisha dopes. You have no reasons.
Sorry I am not faster. I still ran it and went to the Olys. It was the Olympic Standard i think it was 10.45? I know I ran it and I went, You didn't run that fast or go.
Let me guess your name's Clarence and you have real nice parents.
The Logician wrote:
Olympic Truth wrote:I'm not famous, but I met and went out with alot of the US guys because I helped train 1 guy and knew a few guys. I ran for another country and I gave this board a fake age in order to keep the people from not finding out who Iam. Who would reveal their name of this board?? I was OK 10.3 PR mostly 10.4 and 10.5 in the mid to late 90s. I knew Tim M, most UCLA guys, met Gatlin, the deca guys, hang out with Kevin Young, Warner, Phelps etc.
I am not a clown. Why would you start with trying saying something negative. If this is followed by more negative stuff. I wont respond. But if you have a genuine interest in saying someone is clean because of this or that please discuss. I got 1 finalist in the 800 and 2 marathon runners, that I think are clean. But read the 1 post first
10.3s, 10.4s, and 10.5s. These are High School times. You expect us to believe you're an Olympian and rub shoulders with real elites?
Still, you cannot explain why you think Rudisha dopes. You have no reasons.
You are right. From my perspective its just so obvious, but let me take a minute a see why I need to explain how a guy that run 140.x and consistently runs under 143 from his BS progression.
Olympic Truth, you know younare not going to convince the trolls you have something valuable to say. I suggest you spend your time being as informative as you can, maybe a blog-like post that explains what you know. What substances were HS kids taking, that you know of? Who advised/supervised them? How did they get access? What was the scene in your own country vs. the US? What was thier plan to mask/conceal/hide their doping? What events? Other sports too?
I think Shalane is probably clean.
The Logician wrote:
Olympic Truth wrote:I actually never said that and if you actually read any you might be able to logically think you would come to the conclusion that most dope to compete. I took it the REAL level they all dope. Why would I waste my time and read Philosophy? I would rather read a Journal on PEDs Bardin, W.C. 1996. The anabolic action of testosterone. New England Journal of Medicine, 335 (1), 52–53.
And other such references. Philosophy is good and it can assist me in communicating in an intellectual/logic way. But I don't need that to have a basic understanding of GAY and GATLIN got caught for using and BOLT crushes them. How is he clean? Read Speed Trap. Look up stuff in google scholar. My "bad" logic got me 3 degreess and published in Journals and the WSJ, so I'm good bro.
Degrees from a country that sends 10.5 sprinters to the Olympics?
You live a delusion.
Again why do you continue to say negative things. I went to a good college here in the US. And again sorry I am not faster, I made the time Clarence.
If you only have Rudisha, that's OK Dude half the people on the board think he is dirty.
Clean girl wrote:
I think Shalane is probably clean.
I don't think so. I look at her before and was not convinced at all.
Olympic Truth wrote:
Clean girl wrote:I think Shalane is probably clean.
I don't think so. I look at her before and was not convinced at all.
I first heard about the CIR test, and how the ratio made it easy to guide Testosterone doping, in a discussion regarding Shalane.
Twinn wrote:
Olympic Truth, you know younare not going to convince the trolls you have something valuable to say. I suggest you spend your time being as informative as you can, maybe a blog-like post that explains what you know. What substances were HS kids taking, that you know of? Who advised/supervised them? How did they get access? What was the scene in your own country vs. the US? What was thier plan to mask/conceal/hide their doping? What events? Other sports too?
I know I am actually using this as a starting point for some research.
Most of the kids I have had conversation with, after they became adults and told me they got from a friend in school and now many on the Internet. The boards are a big thing for the kids. The US is ahead, but the internet has closed that gap on steroids, but the designers are big in the track world.Most just go off. I have alot more research to do. I wrote a paper back in 2005 that got published about the diffusion of Steroids to the world via the Internet. I actually picked Portugal and Mexico and Jamaica to become better at track. I got one right.
Judging by your weak command of proper capitalization and other elementary writing skills and your weird, borderline creepy obsession with this witch hunt, I'm guessing your real name is Steve Magness.
Olympic Truth wrote:
dont push it wrote:Lagat
nope. nice guy but no
Everyone who won a medal in this Olympics is clean. They were all tested.
Olympic Truth wrote:
Clean girl wrote:I think Shalane is probably clean.
I don't think so. I look at her before and was not convinced at all.
Well there you have it, idiot. Proof
bruhdaoijsodiajsofijoij wrote:
I think Makhloufi is clean
Funny, it's opposites day.