Diamond5 wrote:
Is he unable to father children because of his low testosterone? He's married to a hot woman and instead of having their own children, they adopted four black kids from Ethiopia?
I'm sure they asked if Ethiopia had any white kids available.
He already gained 20 pounds... Wow.. Good for him. I hope his body fully recovers
One more thing I want to bring up is just how big of loss this is to the elite side of the sport. What is our sport desperately needs at elite level is athletes that can draw out the common runner and actually get them to care about the professional side of things. I just don't see a lot of guys like that coming up. Like him or not Hall was a draw and many in the masses at races had heard of him and cared about his performance. I'm trying to think of how many of top runners right now are actually known outside of the small upper level of the competitive running community and its depressing. From a marathon level I would think its just Meb, Shalane, and Kara, and Kastor. On the track its probably just Symmonds and Rupp?
People like Ritz, Centro, Derrick, Simpson, Huddle to name a few are all fantastic runners but the general public or even just the common runner enthusiast don't know who they are. The generation of runners the public heard about is starting to retire or already has and no one's taken their place in drawing interest to the sport. This is a huge problem in the sport and there a lot of issues that create this problem that I don't think we are doing anything to address.
Unfortunately one of the biggest problems is the African dominance. We like sports best when we are the best at it. And Americans aren't able to compete for the most part so we don't care. And in recent history no African runner has been able to become popular enough to be considered a "draw", with Geb perhaps being the lone exception. In fact I think the only non American who if brought to a US race would create any buzz would be Farah.
We desperately need elites people care about and follow and Hall met that criteria. Our sport will miss him.
Mad respect, Mr. Hall.
Primo Numero Uno wrote:
One more thing I want to bring up is just how big of loss this is to the elite side of the sport. What is our sport desperately needs at elite level is athletes that can draw out the common runner and actually get them to care about the professional side of things. I just don't see a lot of guys like that coming up. Like him or not Hall was a draw and many in the masses at races had heard of him and cared about his performance. I'm trying to think of how many of top runners right now are actually known outside of the small upper level of the competitive running community and its depressing. From a marathon level I would think its just Meb, Shalane, and Kara, and Kastor. On the track its probably just Symmonds and Rupp?
People like Ritz, Centro, Derrick, Simpson, Huddle to name a few are all fantastic runners but the general public or even just the common runner enthusiast don't know who they are. The generation of runners the public heard about is starting to retire or already has and no one's taken their place in drawing interest to the sport. This is a huge problem in the sport and there a lot of issues that create this problem that I don't think we are doing anything to address.
Unfortunately one of the biggest problems is the African dominance. We like sports best when we are the best at it. And Americans aren't able to compete for the most part so we don't care. And in recent history no African runner has been able to become popular enough to be considered a "draw", with Geb perhaps being the lone exception. In fact I think the only non American who if brought to a US race would create any buzz would be Farah.
We desperately need elites people care about and follow and Hall met that criteria. Our sport will miss him.
That " loss" occurred some time ago. Hall hasn't run at an elite level in several years.
If Hall hasn't tried at least a modified paleo diet he's not tried a basic "fix" for these types of issues. Is he vegan or close to it? Those pancakes are about the worst thing he could be doing to stabilize and rebuild his metabolism.
ackkkk wrote:
That " loss" occurred some time ago. Hall hasn't run at an elite level in several years.
Granted that's true but people he was still a household name who brought attention to the races he ran. No one in the know really expected anything out of him at LA last year. But the for the more casual fan where sponsors actually make their money they were way more interested in the race for him than anyone else running the race.
I wish the other elites would make a name for themselves. Volunteer in the community. Be in the local newspaper for interviews. Show up to resteraunts and talk with regular people. Professional runners are fricken hermit crabs I swear. Have an opinion. Clean up your local 5k then donate the free shirt to a little kid rather than a high schooler who would usually win it. Runners need to be more public. They also suck at marketing and branding themselves.
"Sick freaks adopted four Niglets when there are thousands of white American kids they could have adopted. But nooooo, like everything else they had to go with the TrendyLOOK AT ME, look how wonderful I am way of doing things. Yes yes, God is your coach, umm hmmmmm..."
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Classic 'F'ING F-TARD STATEMENT!' Maybe if you take that Confederate Flag out of your A$$ and stop watching NASCAR and barnyard porn you just might see clear enough to realize you can't marry your sister!
Consider this.... wrote:
Great career, but poor choice of cliche lines to sum up his career with in his interview: "Mission accomplished". When ever I hear these words spoken, all I can think of is W (believing what he wanted to believe) and his epic fail.
Agreed. "Mission Accomplished" was cringe-worthy. Lordy, Cheney and his poor lackey W were a joke.
My favorite elite runner ever, inspired more by him than anyone else, sad / hate that his career ended out of his control when he should be healthy and still going strong
Eyeless in Gaza wrote:
dfsgfadsfdsf wrote:Rodgers' PR is four and a half minutes slower than Ryan Hall's. Enough said.
The WR was five and a half minutes slower in Bill Rogers' day. Now enough said.
^This.
Rodgers ran "only" 2:09 because that's what it took to win. He would have run 2:04 if that had been necessary.
I ran only 8:34 3k yesterday bc that's all it took to win. I could've ran 3:34 if I needed to.
The Way We Were wrote:
Eyeless in Gaza wrote:The WR was five and a half minutes slower in Bill Rogers' day. Now enough said.
^This.
Rodgers ran "only" 2:09 because that's what it took to win. He would have run 2:04 if that had been necessary.
Asker of the Obvious wrote:
Galen Rupp Number on Fan wrote:...
(2) Why did the Hall's go to Africa to adopt? Were there no American kids awaiting adoption and in need of a nice family?...
Why shouldn't he go to Africa to adopt?
Ethiopian kids have better genes for distance running than American kids. Not implying that's the reason they adopted kids from there...
The Beast Within wrote:
Runners need to be more public. They also suck at marketing and branding themselves.
Distance runners are always tired. As they should be. Leave the bs to football players and sprinters.
it's a tough sport wrote:
The Beast Within wrote:Runners need to be more public. They also suck at marketing and branding themselves.
Distance runners are always tired. As they should be. Leave the bs to football players and sprinters.
Why fix something if it's broke, right? Idiot.
The Way We Were wrote:
Eyeless in Gaza wrote:The WR was five and a half minutes slower in Bill Rogers' day. Now enough said.
^This.
Rodgers ran "only" 2:09 because that's what it took to win. He would have run 2:04 if that had been necessary.
No.
Division 2 dog wrote:
I ran only 8:34 3k yesterday bc that's all it took to win. I could've ran 3:34 if I needed to.
The Way We Were wrote:^This.
Rodgers ran "only" 2:09 because that's what it took to win. He would have run 2:04 if that had been necessary.
I don't think a human will ever run 3:34 3k. So you will never need to run that fast,
On another note, fully expecting it to be a decade or two until we see anything like Hall or Meb again
The Way We Were wrote:
Eyeless in Gaza wrote:The WR was five and a half minutes slower in Bill Rogers' day. Now enough said.
^This.
Rodgers ran "only" 2:09 because that's what it took to win. He would have run 2:04 if that had been necessary.
If you believe Ron Hill's 2:09 was the record, Bill was within a minute.
Shorter, Rodgers, and Salazar were arguably the best runners in the world in their prime so that should be a factor in looking at Hall's place in running history.