Henry Rono training for masters mile record. PART II

To Thomas,

You hit the point by the nose!!!!Yes it is a Journey-you got to hold on, so tight on the ship otherwise-you will fall-off.

Thanks Thomas,

Henry

70's old timer wrote:

the latest scientific research shows that

I ran for 95 minutes before my fastest 5k, which was in 1977, so this definitely works for me. And I do loosening exercises not stretching, and not windsprints or jogging to warm up.

Your experience is worth much more than some experiment in a laboratory.

yeah, if i were still competing, I think I'd have a hard time changing my habits either...though I might lighten up a little bit.

I think that once your body is in a condition to do a lot of running without becoming fatigued - then a lot of warming up is helpful. I hope i can get to that good condition.

Before that, a 'full' warm up might leave you tired for the race, in which case you need to find an appropriate compromise.

How good were the runnners in the study?

To JR,

I broke four world records and I never stretch even to bend-down as touching my toes.All I was doing just run until I get tired I stop two-three times a day running.

I see athletes stretching alot even my athletes that I coach,I told them I never stretch and no injuries.

These athletes talk about stretching alot and what found from them are having a lot of injuries.

I told running in the hills stretches your entire-body from toes to the head naturally,that was my indirect-stretching as a wild animal in the forest never stretch and their muscles are lean and mean.They take off like rocket never pull a muscle.

Can you train like that? Do you understand the importants of the hill?

Henry

Hey old timer-

Can you direct us to this research? Not that I don't believe you, but I would have a VERY difficult time changing my pre-race routine and just go to the starting line COLD, especially for a short race.

Thanks.

just me wrote:

Hey old timer-

Can you direct us to this research? Not that I don't believe you, but I would have a VERY difficult time changing my pre-race routine and just go to the starting line COLD, especially for a short race.

Thanks.

Dude he is giving you pointers, take them if they are useful to you.. heck henry rono a world class athlete just said he never stretched... he used hills to stretch his body, don't you understand that this man has alot of credibility on his soul to bash you out of your 20 min 5k time....

Henry Rono: the last comment you posted,is something I do...

While athletes are concentrating on stretching a gazelle is out there running!

I wonder how many horses or dogs stretch before a race ummmm...

Henry Rono thanks for all your contributions!

To HOPPER79,

The question is that they fear to training hard to rise the body temperature to the max.They just start stretching when their muscles is cold.Then they wonder why they are breaking joints and angles when they don't have enough heat in the body.They stretch the body at the wrong time,day,month and not enough training.

Perhaps you need to take three months of training before you start stretching even touching your toes.

In late 1950s when I was 6 years-old, I used walk 40 miles before the sun-up until sun-down. Did I stop and stretch in the middle of it? No.

Henry

We never stretched in the 1960s. We never did any weight training either. We felt that the arms were merely for balance. You run with your legs. I, personally, felt that I needed all of my time and energy for running. I also ran too fast in training and was often injured but my body mechanics were horrible. I was best at shoveling snow.

To Orville Atkins:

We never stretched in the 1960s. We never did any weight training either. We felt that the arms were merely for balance. You run with your legs. I, personally, felt that I needed all of my time and energy for running.

I did and I still do exactly what Orville did.My training is basically the old-times style of 1960s and 70s and still works so well.

Henry

henry, i once met you when i lived in portland. thanks for being so kind. i do have to know, moses kiptanui once told me that you had run a 12.51 5km time trial on the track. this was alone and while you were at washington. is this true once and for all? he said his cousin or someone had been holding the watch for you that day.

Henry, I thought that you'd like this post from two years ago:

malmo

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Richard Neer wrote:

Are we stretching our way to the top?

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I agree. Did you ever see a lion stretch before it kills lunch?

My brother, also a distance runner in the 70's and 80's, used to do a ton of stretching and was always showing off his flexability compared to the rest of us, though he was a little short on the actual running part...lol....I use to tell him that he is the most flexible 31 minute 10k guy around....as an insult .....lol....when I was breaking 30 min, with alot more mileage and alot less time stretching.

To Malmo,

Stretching basically means have you trained until your muscles stretch-out to the top?

Means run until the muscles are soft as the muscle of an an-te-lope e.g. gazelle.Until you can breath through the muscles not the nose.

Didn't mean just jog a couple of blocks and start stretching.Your breathing still not enough through the muscles so you breathing still hard on your lungsa and through your nose.

Henry

HOPPER79 wrote:

just me wrote:

Hey old timer-

Can you direct us to this research? Not that I don't believe you, but I would have a VERY difficult time changing my pre-race routine and just go to the starting line COLD, especially for a short race.

Thanks.

Dude he is giving you pointers, take them if they are useful to you.. heck henry rono a world class athlete just said he never stretched... he used hills to stretch his body, don't you understand that this man has alot of credibility on his soul to bash you out of your 20 min 5k time....

Henry Rono: the last comment you posted,is something I do...

While athletes are concentrating on stretching a gazelle is out there running!

I wonder how many horses or dogs stretch before a race ummmm...

Henry Rono thanks for all your contributions!

Hello HOPPER79-

You're right. I could have just ignored the post and decided on my own if I want to change the way I warm up for a race. However, because I'm always willing to learn, I'd like to read the latest research on any new discovery if it may be helpful. All I did was ask where I could find the article. Was that so bad that you had to chastise me for asking? It had nothing to do with Henry.

BTW, it really doesn't make any difference whether I'm a 30 or 14 minute 5k'er. Just so you know, I'm almost 55 and can run sub 18 on a good day. Not lately though, as I'm coming back from a very serious medical condition. Also, Henry knows who I am and he knows I certainly wasn't bashing him. If you reread my post, it was directed to "old timer."

Can we move on now?

Henry,

I like the way you put it. I always ran for at least 30 minutes before training. I often ran for 30 to 60 minutes before races and that includes marathons. Now I know better why. I just knew that my body felt much better and I moved more smoothly when I did so.

To Orville Atkins,

Orville,your adaptation was coming very smoothly,and because you have it in your mind is easily adaptable to your physical and your running becomes natural.

I didn't have headaches when I broke four events in 81days.It was all-natural.

Why is that?

I broke a record and wait for four weeks then another one wait four weeks and so forth...

Why my recovery was so short and ready again?

I didn't do something different in between such as stretching. I only keep running until I get tired I stop.I made so simple for me.I didn't make it look complicated.Just run until there's no food in the stomatch, I go and eat some-more basically what did was as an an-te-lope does or gazelle in the wild-cold forest.

Henry

Henry

Sorry didn't mean to bash you! Continue on, I have learned well refreshed what I think was best for me in running through reading the trials of Henry Rono.

A few years ago i ran two 5k races in one day and had no problem