Will Jane Hedengren beat the 10K collegiate record tonight? Update: Yes, she's done it (30:46.80)

wardcleaverzbot · 2026-04-03T16:10:54-04:00

Word on the street is that Hedengren and Kosgei are running the Stanford 10000 tonight. Do they just run an NCAA qualifier or go for the CR? Prediction: Hedengren 30:36, Kosgei 30:45

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1 month ago 04/04/2026 5:26pm EDT

re: Fact_Checker

Fact_Checker wrote:
I was responding to a poster who claims that a run that was nearly 4 seconds slower is somehow greater.

There is a lot more to determining quality of performances than simply time. Jesse Owens's lifetime best was 10.20. 257 men ran faster than that in 2025 alone. None of their performances were superior to Owen's. But you must believe that all of their performances were superior.

Valby ran a completely solo second 5K in 15:20 at a time when only 11 women in NCAA history had run 15:17 or faster for just the 5K alone. Her second 5K would have won all but three NCAA championships ever held. And she did it with no help from anyone. If you think it is as easy to break a national record solo as it us when you are pushed step for step for an entire race, then you clearly have never run a race before. Hedengren and Kosgei shared the pacing duties the entire race.

Hedengren easily had the vest performance ever by a freshman, but it was not better than Valby. Her day will come eventually but not quite yet.

1 month ago 04/04/2026 5:27pm EDT

re: Fact_Checker

John Hedengren has the correct viewpoint on this. Great athlete set the bar for upcoming great athletes. Nothing to do with how many runners were lapped by whom.

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1 month ago 04/04/2026 5:38pm EDT

re: canadian

canadian wrote:
John Hedengren has the correct viewpoint on this. Great athlete set the bar for upcoming great athletes. Nothing to do with how many runners were lapped by whom.
Facebook:www.facebook.com/share/r/18UYqV7KS1/?m...

If you scroll down, there’s a pretty cool Bad Company video.

1 month ago 04/04/2026 5:47pm EDT

re: canadian

canadian wrote:
John Hedengren has the correct viewpoint on this. Great athlete set the bar for upcoming great athletes. Nothing to do with how many runners were lapped by whom.
Facebook:www.facebook.com/share/r/18UYqV7KS1/?m...

His post reads like AI (chatGPT) lol

1 month ago 04/04/2026 5:53pm EDT

re: Kickers usually win

Guys like to think that lack of depth on the women’s side is participation related. It is mostly that the same traits that make someone fast are much more rare on the women’s side.

Anabolic peds give a larger advantage to women, but that is mostly only relevant if you are going to try and use the WR as some sort of measuring stick.

1 month ago 04/04/2026 6:15pm EDT

re: THOUGHTSLEADER

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
If you’re looking for the go-pro off ramp I think it’s no earlier than after 2026 XC.
What’s really the point for this non-championship year? She isn’t going to get into World Ultimate or World Road Racing Champs. She can still run the 2mile at Pre Classic and perhaps European races.

I agree. I think Jane wants to win an NCAA XC national title before she stops running for her college team.

Parker\'s race was more impressive wrote:
Fact_Checker wrote:
I was responding to a poster who claims that a run that was nearly 4 seconds slower is somehow greater.
Valby ran a completely solo second 5K in 15:20 at a time when only 11 women in NCAA history had run 15:17 or faster for just the 5K alone. Her second 5K would have won all but three NCAA championships ever held.

You are acting as though a 21-year old Parker Valby ran in a different era. Her 10000 record is from two years ago.

Two years ago. 2024.

Amazing that she ran that second 15:20 solo, awesome, good for her. In the span of a
few months, Hedengren (as a freshman) has already surpassed Valby’s times in the 3000, 5000, and 10000 (as a redshirt-junior.)

No matter how you slice it, Hedengren is superior. She can hit 30:30 this very season if she chooses to.

1 month ago 04/04/2026 7:53pm EDT

re: Jane is pretty quick

Jane is pretty quick wrote:
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
If you’re looking for the go-pro off ramp I think it’s no earlier than after 2026 XC.
What’s really the point for this non-championship year? She isn’t going to get into World Ultimate or World Road Racing Champs. She can still run the 2mile at Pre Classic and perhaps European races.
I agree. I think Jane wants to win an NCAA XC national title before she stops running for her college team.

I think she’s going to stay all four years at BYU.

1 month ago 04/04/2026 8:09pm EDT

re: wtfbbq

wtfbbq wrote:
Parker\'s race was more impressive wrote:
Valby ran a completely solo second 5K in 15:20 at a time when only 11 women in NCAA history had run 15:17 or faster for just the 5K alone. Her second 5K would have won all but three NCAA championships ever held.
You are acting as though a 21-year old Parker Valby ran in a different era. Her 10000 record is from two years ago.
Two years ago. 2024.
Amazing that she ran that second 15:20 solo, awesome, good for her. In the span of a
few months, Hedengren (as a freshman) has already surpassed Valby’s times in the 3000, 5000, and 10000 (as a redshirt-junior.)
No matter how you slice it, Hedengren is superior. She can hit 30:30 this very season if she chooses to.

You're missing the point about how groundbreaking Valby was. It's harder to be the barrier breaker. It's harder to run the second 5K of a 10K solo. It's harder to be as great as Valby was without the benefit of growing up and going to college in altitude.

Hedengren being as great as she is as a freshman has a lot to do with getting started in the sport at a much earlier age than Valby did. Hedengren raced in the USATF Junior Olympic circuit in 5th grade. Valby didn't start running competitively until she was 14. Slice that!

1 month ago 04/04/2026 8:16pm EDT

re: rojo

rojo wrote:
beyond belief wrote:
INCOMING BLACK START UP PAGE!!
Sorry. She's absolutely incredible but we aren't doing a black page for this.
1) They weren't even going all out the whole race.
2) It's a time that is exactly 2 minutes off the women's 10k world record.
All the people saying she must go pro. Why? I think being on a team, having realistic goals is great. I'd stay in the NCAA as long as I possibly could without committing financial suicide.

Financial suicide? Is that what happens to all BYU grads?

Parker\'s race was more impressive wrote:
Fact_Checker wrote:
I was responding to a poster who claims that a run that was nearly 4 seconds slower is somehow greater.
There is a lot more to determining quality of performances than simply time. Jesse Owens's lifetime best was 10.20. 257 men ran faster than that in 2025 alone. None of their performances were superior to Owen's. But you must believe that all of their performances were superior.
Valby ran a completely solo second 5K in 15:20 at a time when only 11 women in NCAA history had run 15:17 or faster for just the 5K alone. Her second 5K would have won all but three NCAA championships ever held. And she did it with no help from anyone. If you think it is as easy to break a national record solo as it us when you are pushed step for step for an entire race, then you clearly have never run a race before. Hedengren and Kosgei shared the pacing duties the entire race.
Hedengren easily had the vest performance ever by a freshman, but it was not better than Valby. Her day will come eventually but not quite yet.

Just about all of the 100000m WRs have been set by someone that ran solo for the last 5000m.

1 month ago 04/04/2026 8:31pm EDT

re: Kickers usually win

Kickers usually win wrote:
Jane is pretty quick wrote:
I agree. I think Jane wants to win an NCAA XC national title before she stops running for her college team.
I think she’s going to stay all four years at BYU.

That's two totally different things. Jane Hedengren will probably be a STUDENT at BYU for 4 years. But she will probably not be a STUDENT ATHLETE at BYU for 4 years. She will most likely continue to take classes at BYU but run as a pro for the last year or two of her time at BYU.

1 month ago 04/04/2026 9:56pm EDT

re: high way

high way wrote:
Didn't an American woman just medal?

Yes. Which is why I said it seems to be improving some. There is still a big gap between the top American women and the top women in the world.

1 month ago 04/04/2026 9:59pm EDT

re: Kickers usually win

Kickers usually win wrote:
Slo-Jo wrote:
This needs to keep happening. What each woman accomplished was great in its time, but the fact remains that American women are not all that competitive on the world stage. That seems to be improving a little. The records continuing to fall in the NCAA might be a good sign that US women are striving for a higher ceiling. As much criticism as there has been of international recruiting, maybe having those athletes in the mix is a part if the bar rising on the women’s side.
Rather than not all that competitive on the world stage, they’re not competitive at all and I don’t think there is someone running currently that will ever challenge for a medal. As another poster pointed out, Jane’s pace last night wasn’t much faster than that for the Marathon WR. To have a chance at a medal, a runner would need at least 3:55 capability in the 1500m.
Having said that, It’s enjoyable to compare Hedengren to other runners and especially to Valby. There’s no reason to ruin the fun by bringing the East-Africans into the discussion.

We had a few bronze medal at indoor worlds. That is a somewhat competitive.

1 month ago 04/04/2026 10:00pm EDT

re: high way

high way wrote:
Didn't an American woman just medal?

I believe an American "they" medaled.

1 month ago 04/04/2026 10:18pm EDT

re: Parker's race was more impressive

Parker\'s race was more impressive wrote:
Fact_Checker wrote:
I was responding to a poster who claims that a run that was nearly 4 seconds slower is somehow greater.
There is a lot more to determining quality of performances than simply time. Jesse Owens's lifetime best was 10.20. 257 men ran faster than that in 2025 alone. None of their performances were superior to Owen's. But you must believe that all of their performances were superior.
Valby ran a completely solo second 5K in 15:20 at a time when only 11 women in NCAA history had run 15:17 or faster for just the 5K alone. Her second 5K would have won all but three NCAA championships ever held. And she did it with no help from anyone. If you think it is as easy to break a national record solo as it us when you are pushed step for step for an entire race, then you clearly have never run a race before. Hedengren and Kosgei shared the pacing duties the entire race.
Hedengren easily had the vest performance ever by a freshman, but it was not better than Valby. Her day will come eventually but not quite yet.

🤣

Imagine comparing runners nearly a century apart and acting like thats the same as runners two years apart.

Hedengren ran the last 10000m in a time faster than any collegian in history, while having to pass a more competitive runner. multiple times. That’s better than the rest of your cherrypicked stats. Just the truth. No hate to PV.

1 month ago 04/04/2026 10:22pm EDT

re: Jane is pretty quick

Hmm.. not sure why she would turn pro. She probably is making bank with NIL. She obviously can work as hard as she needs to. Life is good.

1 month ago 04/04/2026 10:37pm EDT

re: How fast will they go

ERS wrote:
All-Time US Performer List (Sub-31:00)
1- 30:03.82 Alicia Monson (2023)
2- 30:13.17 Molly Huddle (2016)
3- 30:14.66 Elise Cranny (2022)
4- 30:18.05 Karissa Schweizer (2022)
5- 30:22.22 Shalane Flanagan (2008)
6- 30:33.82 Weini Kelati (2024)
7-30:46.80 Jane Hedengren (2026)
8- 30:48.26 Elly Henes (2023)
9- 30:48.69 Natosha Rogers (2023)
10- 30:49.57 Emily Sisson (2029)
11- 30:50.10 Shelby Houlihan (2026)
12- 30:50.32 Deen Kastor (2002)
13- 30:50.43 Parker Valby (2024)
14- 30:52.77 Fiona O'Keeffe (2023)
15- 30:55.16 Kara Goucher (2008)

Can you tell me anything else about 2029 my time travelling friend?

1 month ago 04/04/2026 10:49pm EDT

re: PV Supreme

PV Supreme wrote:
wtfbbq wrote:
You are acting as though a 21-year old Parker Valby ran in a different era. Her 10000 record is from two years ago.
Two years ago. 2024.
Amazing that she ran that second 15:20 solo, awesome, good for her. In the span of a
few months, Hedengren (as a freshman) has already surpassed Valby’s times in the 3000, 5000, and 10000 (as a redshirt-junior.)
No matter how you slice it, Hedengren is superior. She can hit 30:30 this very season if she chooses to.
You're missing the point about how groundbreaking Valby was. It's harder to be the barrier breaker.

PV was groundbreaking. So was KT before her. So was Weini Kelati before her. Etc etc etc.

At 19, Hedengren is essentially equaling their best times - not collegiate times - but their professional times.

THAT is groundbreaking.

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