"Periodization" is just a fancy word for saying he loses a lot. I guess El G didn't really "periodize". He kept winning. Like most great runners do.
Also, people barely ran indoors which is obviously not the case these days.
So you'd rather win the TTs and lose the Championships?
I dont think anyone would agree with that mentality at that level, especially not their sponsors
Great runners win both; the races against their competition during the year and the championship finals. That's the true measure of greatness. But the best certainly win more than one big race in a year, even if it is an Olympic final.
If it wasn't for two races he would be forgotten. He has continually been beaten throughout the rest of each year. Outside a few American running fans he wouldn't register.
It truly pains me to agree with Armstrong because he is far and away the least intelligent poster on this board, but he is right.
Oh dear. That means I have attained your level of intelligence - or you've fallen to mine.
When all the intelligent posters on here start stuttering and can't really answer why he was jumping around after running a 52 second last lap 13:00 race. Then you just have to swallow the blackpill honestly. Even that mf Kemboi wouldn't jump around that much after a 3k steeple win. Feel like even the level headed posters are shocked after these performances and don't even know what to say.
what exactly is sus again? an olympic 1500m champion who ran 7:23 indoors for 3000m winning the 5000m?
He got beaten at 7:23 - like he usually does - to a runner who achieved nothing in the WC. He gets beaten in virtually every race except, interestingly, an Olympic or WC final. Nothing suspicious about that.
So winning a gold medal is how you get forgotten now?
Im sure there's a test you can create that he cant pass for 'greatness' but this seems a little silly
If it wasn't for two races he would be forgotten. He has continually been beaten throughout the rest of each year. Outside a few American running fans he wouldn't register.
He got beaten at 7:23 - like he usually does - to a runner who achieved nothing in the WC. He gets beaten in virtually every race except, interestingly, an Olympic or WC final. Nothing suspicious about that.
Reminds me of Beamish.
That's because you don't follow track. Has Hocker been out of the sport for long periods due to successive injuries? You also forget how Beamish buried Hocker in the world indoors 1500.
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If it wasn't for two races he would be forgotten. He has continually been beaten throughout the rest of each year. Outside a few American running fans he wouldn't register.
That's because you don't follow track. Has Hocker been out of the sport for long periods due to successive injuries? You also forget how Beamish buried Hocker in the world indoors 1500.
Then Beamish is even more suspicious. From injuries to world champion.
World indoors? You say it yourself, when talking about Jakob, that indoors are irrelevant. You are a dishonest moron.
Also, people barely ran indoors which is obviously not the case these days.
So you'd rather win the TTs and lose the Championships?
I dont think anyone would agree with that mentality at that level, especially not their sponsors
Great runners win both; the races against their competition during the year and the championship finals. That's the true measure of greatness. But the best certainly win more than one big race in a year, even if it is an Olympic final.
So Jakob I isnt a great at 5000m because he only wins in Championships when he's in top form?
Guy has never broken 12:45 and yet to most peoples minds definitely a 5000m great.
Just trying to follow the logic here.
Also, Hocker doubled at a very competitive trials and made both teams. I dont think you are factoring in qualification standards/country competition to this equation
That's because you don't follow track. Has Hocker been out of the sport for long periods due to successive injuries? You also forget how Beamish buried Hocker in the world indoors 1500.
Then Beamish is even more suspicious. From injuries to world champion.
World indoors? You say it yourself, when talking about Jakob, that indoors are irrelevant. You are a dishonest moron.
Who besides you is saying Beamish is like Hocker? Where are the threads claiming that? Or saying "Beamish is suspicious, enough said"? All in your angry little mind?
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One thing I noticed was that he needed no recovery whatsoever after dropping a 52 point in a sub 13 race. He crossed the line and started his celebration and seemed instantly recovered. It reminded me of how some cycling insiders knew Lance was dirty when they saw how easily he navigated some of the alps climbs—no distress, measured breathing. Maybe he’s clean, but today was the first time I wondered if maybe I’ve been too naive.
If you have some evidence, ok, but pointing to winning a championship is a bit slippery, dont you think?
How about you create a list of those who you DO NOT find suspicious. Feel free to cite examples from this recent WC or the Olympics
There's a difference between peaking - most runners can achieve that - and what Hocker is doing. Without one race a year in the last two years he is basically a journeyman at the global level; a nonentity.
I haven't compiled a list of those I don't think are doping at the WC - anyone could be and most probably are - but the most obvious to me have been Jefferson-Wooden, SML, Hocker, Nader, Odira, most of the 800 fields for both men and women and the Botswana 400 runners. But these were the true Enhanced Games.
That's because you don't follow track. Has Hocker been out of the sport for long periods due to successive injuries? You also forget how Beamish buried Hocker in the world indoors 1500.
Then Beamish is even more suspicious. From injuries to world champion.
World indoors? You say it yourself, when talking about Jakob, that indoors are irrelevant. You are a dishonest moron.
The indoors are secondary to the outdoor champs; I'm not arguing otherwise; the point I was making was that in that race Beamish totally buried Hocker at the finish.
Again, 7:23 3000m and 12:57 for 5000m indoors is not doing nothing.
Hocker wasnt a 1500/5000 really until this year. Now i think he's bridged that gap but hey, that takes a slightly different approach to your season schedule/training
Not sure why Beamish beating Hocker in Indoor Worlds from last year is relevant
Cole shared on Instagram in the last 2 days that he takes a product called Nomio. Go look at it-- It's akin to legal doping. Surprised no one mentioned this yet. He is still a great athlete and ran the best race and knew how to win that day and he did.
The whole sport is tainted. The better shoe tech & legal substance use have tainted the integrity of the sport severely, as it is not even the same league to what it was prior to 2016. This all contributes to faster times and therefore crazier WRs from a multitude of "historic" performances and athletes eg. Jakob, Faith Kipyegon, Eliud Kipchoge.
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