Is multiculturalism essentially a failure?

2600 bro wrote:

Aren't we lost in the weeds here? Xenophobia and isolationism been shown time and time again to be economically inferior to open borders, free trade, and attracting high-talent immigrants!

I agree, but I'm just saying Alaska is diverse, because it is. I'm not white, and I'm a lot more comfortable in Alaska than Bend, OR for example.

Alabang wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

Aren't we lost in the weeds here? Xenophobia and isolationism been shown time and time again to be economically inferior to open borders, free trade, and attracting high-talent immigrants!

I agree, but I wanted to set the record straight for zzzz who is posting misleading information.

I agree with your numbers, they are from a reputable source. The numbers I put up are factual too, and not misleading nor is intended to be misleading. The source paper for how the diversity index is calculated in that article is also there. There are just different ways to measure diversity.

2600 bro wrote:

Aren't we lost in the weeds here? Xenophobia and isolationism been shown time and time again to be economically inferior to open borders, free trade, and attracting high-talent immigrants!

Too bad that's completely false. Isolationism from much of the world mid 1800s to early 1900s is what helped the US get to where it is now. It is now going down. Chinas isolation is making the most powerful economy in the world out of nowhere...thanks to xenophobia. There are only high-talent immigrants from certain places. The US is not bringing those in anymore. Korea is booming thanks to non-useless person immigration policy.

Chappy wrote:

Chinas isolation is making the most powerful economy in the world out of nowhere.

Chappy, I agree with you.

These leftists are blind. They literally think the future is roses, peace, happiness, and equality in a utopia. They want to attack and silence any opposition.

Japan is peaceful because they don't have many Palestinian "refugees" who cause trouble.

It's very simple to understand. If you don't bring in Palestinians, then you won't get the baggage they bring.

How can we convince the leftists who have been indoctrinated by the public school system?

Multiculturalism worked great in America for a long time, until someone decided we can't insult each other anymore. The death of humor breeds resentment, suspicion, hate, and the even worse hatred of hate with its mad cancel genocide.

zzzz wrote:

Alabang wrote:

I agree, but I wanted to set the record straight for zzzz who is posting misleading information.

I agree with your numbers, they are from a reputable source. The numbers I put up are factual too, and not misleading nor is intended to be misleading. The source paper for how the diversity index is calculated in that article is also there. There are just different ways to measure diversity.

Fair enough. And I didn't realize Alaska was that diverse.

Chappy wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

Aren't we lost in the weeds here? Xenophobia and isolationism been shown time and time again to be economically inferior to open borders, free trade, and attracting high-talent immigrants!

Too bad that's completely false. Isolationism from much of the world mid 1800s to early 1900s is what helped the US get to where it is now. It is now going down. Chinas isolation is making the most powerful economy in the world out of nowhere...thanks to xenophobia. There are only high-talent immigrants from certain places. The US is not bringing those in anymore. Korea is booming thanks to non-useless person immigration policy.

Except that US had its highest immigration rates in the late 1900s and early 20th century. First the Irish, then the Swedes, followed by people from Southern and Eastern Europe. In that period of our history we faced chronic labor shortages as we expanded west and built out a continent. We could not have achieved that so quickly without importing a lot of people. This country was built with immigrants (and slaves).

That should read the highest immigration rates were in the late 1800s and early 1900s.

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Ummm. Correct. 1800s to early 1900s as said. I think that is what was attempted to be conveyed. That is an immigration of all similar types of people who helped build, produce, innovate, and lead. This is not happening anymore. US has gone downwards in many aspects as a result.

breit leit wrote:

Can someone reconcile to me how you can be pro-American and anti-multiculturalism? Are you suggesting we bring back segregation?

Anyone?

breit leit wrote:

breit leit wrote:

Can someone reconcile to me how you can be pro-American and anti-multiculturalism? Are you suggesting we bring back segregation?

Anyone?

Easy: America is not pro-multiculturalism. It is pro-assimilation. Come here and throw all your culture out the door in the first generation.

Bring your good ideas and we'll decide to use them but leave all your bad ideas at home.

Bad ideas lately: socialism (South & Central America), Communism/Maoism (China), Islam (Middle East, Africa), Unskilled labor (South/Central America, Africa)

Good ideas lately: hard work & family/education-oriented (Asian, Indian, European)

Too many bad ideas being imported today.

krispy kremlin._._._._. wrote:

breit leit wrote:

Anyone?

Easy: America is not pro-multiculturalism.

Patently false.

krispy kremlin._._._._. wrote:

breit leit wrote:

Anyone?

Easy: America is not pro-multiculturalism. It is pro-assimilation. Come here and throw all your culture out the door in the first generation.

Bring your good ideas and we'll decide to use them but leave all your bad ideas at home.

Bad ideas lately: socialism (South & Central America), Communism/Maoism (China), Islam (Middle East, Africa), Unskilled labor (South/Central America, Africa)

Good ideas lately: hard work & family/education-oriented (Asian, Indian, European)

Too many bad ideas being imported today.

Unskilled labor is not an idea. Agriculture in this country could not survive without it. And who do you think is providing elderly care, cleaning hotel rooms and doing yard work? It's immigrant unskilled labor.

Chappy wrote:1800s to early 1900s as said. I think that is what was attempted to be conveyed. That is an immigration of all similar types of people who helped build, produce, innovate, and lead. This is not happening anymore. US has gone downwards in many aspects as a result.

Similar types of people? Irish, Italians and Pole were all once considered "outsiders" who did not belong to the mainstream of the American society. And the hardest to assimilate was GERMANS. That's why the Declaration of Independence had to be published in two languages (too many Germans who could not read English). German language newspapers were the Univision and Telemundo of the 19th century.

And guess which immigrants Know-Nothing Party was trying to stop? It's not Mexicans and Chinese.

krispy kremlin._._._._. wrote:

Easy: America is not pro-multiculturalism. It is pro-assimilation. Come here and throw all your culture out the door in the first generation.

Bring your good ideas and we'll decide to use them but leave all your bad ideas at home.

"In general German immigrants strongly resisted even small amounts of American assimilation. They felt tremendous pride in what they felt was a highly sophisticated culture. This system of values was collectively known as Deutschtum. "

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Does not matter one bit. Them, and the Irish and the Italians are all of a similar breed. They already had their development in progress in Europe and they all contributed their know how, innovation, hard work, leadership skills, business skills, inventive capabilities in their own way.

Without these immigrants America would be the Dominican Republic, without outside investment.

Chappy wrote:

Does not matter one bit. Them, and the Irish and the Italians are all of a similar breed. They already had their development in progress in Europe and they all contributed their know how, innovation, hard work, leadership skills, business skills, inventive capabilities in their own way.

Without these immigrants America would be the Dominican Republic, without outside investment.

You mean, they were like Nigerian immigrants today?

Quite the opposite. It's a leftist story but there is nothini to this. The Nigerians really have nothing to offer.