Running is for YOUNG People NOT OLDER People

So 8 pages arguing about what people like to do for fun and a thread that says older folks should stop having fun. Fun is apparently the preserve of youth. That's a cheerful thought, since most of life is spent in aging.

Nickyyy wrote:

Why is it ageism? Is it ageism if you choose not to have children with a 55 year old woman? Some of you are profoundly stupid.

That was just profoundly stupid. Not ironic though, since you are clearly profoundly stupid. I do feel bad for you - trying to be good at something for once in your life, trolling, but ending up being the worst kind of troll - the profoundly stupid troll. The best ones, the clever ones, can be entertaining, idiots like you are just sad and pathetic. And that part is ironic; here you are with your troll theme of being concerned about people appearing pathetic and you end up being the most pathetic person here. Sad.

Bullet_Proof wrote:

Why do you never see guys like Ryan Hall or Haile Gebrselassie run a local 5k at a much slower pace than what they used to? Maybe because they ran as fast as they could when they were young? Maybe because the true purpose of the sport is to win and beat the best runners, with zero conditions such as "in my age group" / "in my region" / "on this hilly course" / "in this random 10k in my suburb that hardly anyone runs in"

Really? The true purpose of any sport is to win and beat the best competitors? According to that logic no one should ever participate in any sport after their mid-30s. Let's take golf as an example. Most professional golfers continue to play well after their competitive years on the tour are over because they enjoy the sport. Does that mean they still don't try for a low score when they are on the course even though they are well past their prime?

I know a lot of guys in their 40s and 50s that are working on their game and trying to improve. I've heard that Trump is competitive on the course and he is in his 70s. If he entered a 5k instead of going to the golf course does that mean he is pathetic?

People still need physical challenges as they age, or would you disagree? If so, what sort of physically activity or challenge do you think is appropriate for older people of any age? And as far as Ryan Hall, he is pretty serious about body building so he just transferred his competitive drive in a different direction.

D1 runnerer wrote:

Nickyyy wrote:

Why is it ageism? Is it ageism if you choose not to have children with a 55 year old woman? Some of you are profoundly stupid.

That was just profoundly stupid. Not ironic though, since you are clearly profoundly stupid. I do feel bad for you - trying to be good at something for once in your life, trolling, but ending up being the worst kind of troll - the profoundly stupid troll. The best ones, the clever ones, can be entertaining, idiots like you are just sad and pathetic. And that part is ironic; here you are with your troll theme of being concerned about people appearing pathetic and you end up being the most pathetic person here. Sad.

In other words another point sailed above your pedestrian mind. You cannot handle reality so you reflexively label it ageism. How stupid are you?

Nickyyy wrote:

D1 runnerer wrote:

That was just profoundly stupid. Not ironic though, since you are clearly profoundly stupid. I do feel bad for you - trying to be good at something for once in your life, trolling, but ending up being the worst kind of troll - the profoundly stupid troll. The best ones, the clever ones, can be entertaining, idiots like you are just sad and pathetic. And that part is ironic; here you are with your troll theme of being concerned about people appearing pathetic and you end up being the most pathetic person here. Sad.

In other words another point sailed above your pedestrian mind. You cannot handle reality so you reflexively label it ageism. How stupid are you?

A bit of advice: asking someone how stupid they are would appear to be a question that was destined for failure by the very nature of accurately assessing the very thing it seeks to determine.

But otherwise, keep up the good work!

Rhetorical question Prattler! You da man!

You never answered the question. Y the pretentiousness of adding "y's" at the end of your name? Do you drive a truck too big for you? Over compensating maybe?

I'm beginning to suspect that you're not even a runner. Are you one of those couch potatoes who become gleeful when they hear of a runner who has dropped dead from a heart attack at the end of a marathon? "I told you running's not good for you. Hey honey, grab me another beer."

get offa my lawn...

Whatley wrote:

Why do you care, if they enjoy it what is the problem?

I agree! I just turned 65 two day ago, on my birthday I did my lifting and went out and ran my 2.2 mile course at 8;45 mile pace. I was so happy and content because that is what running, ok jogging, has done for me for 50 years now.

For me and many others it’s what keeps us going. So running is for the young, but also the old and anyone else that gets out there and does it.

oldold runner wrote:

Whatley wrote:

Why do you care, if they enjoy it what is the problem?

I agree! I just turned 65 two day ago, on my birthday I did my lifting and went out and ran my 2.2 mile course at 8;45 mile pace. I was so happy and content because that is what running, ok jogging, has done for me for 50 years now.

For me and many others it’s what keeps us going. So running is for the young, but also the old and anyone else that gets out there and does it.

This is what this thread is about. You have it in perspective. Way to go!

OP, you have lost every exchange here. If that is a measure of your athletic talent there wouldn't be an aging hobby jogger who couldn't best you in a foot race.

Armstronglivs wrote:

OP, you have lost every exchange here. If that is a measure of your athletic talent there wouldn't be an aging hobby jogger who couldn't best you in a foot race.

You are bereft of any contribution other than hominem attacks. My point has been vindicated here. You only see black and white. I acknowledged that recreational jogging is a boon for old people like you. Most of you are trapped in your Narcissism so you assume this is generational warfare. Everybody was young once. That was the time to run old man. Surely even you can grasp this.

The issue here is that if you don’t run with reckless abandon when young you may regret it. If you do run with reckless abandon when older you may regret it. Do it when you are young. It is pathetic to be doing it when old, to be striving for an age 50 personal best.”, for example. It is beyond sad and know that others are laughing at you. Try to not take this personally all you older joggers.

Nickyyy wrote:

Grassrunner wrote:

BTW, what happened to Nickyy, Nickyyy????

One of the jealous ones registered Nickyy. This happens frequently to some of us.

Nobody is jealous of unregistered users.

If you want to be a great troll, register. Fortune favors the bold.

I seem to distinctly recall a poster here about a year ago who belabored this exact same argument. with a heavy emphasis on the "belabored".

It was under a different user name but the point was the same - running competitively as an older-aged masters runner was silly and not worthy of the effort, at least in that poster's estimation. That poster even went so far as to implore other older runners to just stop trying to maximize their abilities and times.

If I remember correctly, that poster gave the impression that they were older themselves - had made an attempt to remain competitive, had a really bad time of it, and had deeply regretted it.

The reason i raise this is because i, like many posters here, wonder why in hell a younger runner, which the OP claims to be, would be so consumed with making this point. And a point, i may add, that would be incredibly extraneous to a younger runner, but would be very much wrapped up in the self-image of an older runner who tried and failed to do the very thing they are discouraging others attempt. See, this would all make sense if this Nickyyyy is actually an older runner with some skin in the game of whether or not running competitively as an older runner is credible.

I feel confident in this explanation, fwiw.

Nickyyy wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

OP, you have lost every exchange here. If that is a measure of your athletic talent there wouldn't be an aging hobby jogger who couldn't best you in a foot race.

You are bereft of any contribution other than hominem attacks. My point has been vindicated here. You only see black and white. I acknowledged that recreational jogging is a boon for old people like you. Most of you are trapped in your Narcissism so you assume this is generational warfare. Everybody was young once. That was the time to run old man. Surely even you can grasp this.

When youth and inexperience tells its elders what is appropriate for their age. You should run as much as you can now; judging from your insights there won't be anything much else you will be capable of when you age.

The Prattler has failed again.. You and so many of you are obsessed with the OP. I am the OP but I have nothing to do with this thread. The thread’s topic is the pathetic nature of many of you aging runners who are somehow clinging to your trivial endeavors as if they mean something. You must leave me out of it. I have nothing to do with it. It is so typical though when someone has lifted the veil of ignorance regarding your pathetic natures that you will strive valiantly to blame the messenger. The messenger is not the issue. No need to crucify the messenger. Examine yourselves and you shall slowly ascertain, even you dim bulbs, that I speak the truth, but this is not welcome here by most. Hence the ad hominem attacks will surface. I certainly have never tried to be an aging competitive athlete. Do it when you are young or the mockery will be warranted.

Nickyy wrote:

"When older people take running seriously it appears pathetic. This sport is for younger people. For older people it should just be a recreational hobby."

Good post. I get it. I'm old, fat, and a photo finish tongue bite'n heel striker. It is pathetic, but still trying. Find a lot of perspective here and finally, Daniels Formula. I'm a fan, love running and I hate running. It's weird, it's also a great metric. How far, how fast?

This post has me a little remorseful, not about my effort...but my enthusiasm pre and post race. I get to stand there with the fastest of them in the beginning and then sometimes too at the end (even with a big time gap). It's worlds colliding.

This does seem like a good time to share this. To me, this is what running is all about -Galloway’s "The Five Stages of A Runner".

http://shelterpubcom.nationprotect.net/_fitness/_running/run_5_stages.html

Everyone should be in here somewhere, pathetic or not. We we all born to run so, Lets Run!

Nickyyy wrote:

The issue here is that if you don’t run with reckless abandon when young you may regret it. If you do run with reckless abandon when older you may regret it. Do it when you are young. It is pathetic to be doing it when old, to be striving for an age 50 personal best.”, for example. It is beyond sad and know that others are laughing at you. Try to not take this personally all you older joggers.

If only the young folks would run. When I was 18, a +3h marathon was not even considered to be a serious marathon. And now I see runners in their 20s or 30s debate how to break 2h for the half - come on, that's a joke.

I took a 20y break from running races (I intentionally don't call it competitive running), but I got hooked again when I joined a younger (!) friend for his first marathon. Today I run 2 days, take a day off, run 2 day and so on, once per week fast, once per week a bit longer - you could call this "semi-recreational".

But you know what: (a) it is pure fun and (b) it is shocking to see that I am usually in the first quarter of the field with a 40min 10k at 55. Maybe you are pissed because so many older guys are faster then you ;-)?

So do all of us a favor and run 30min for a 10k (because that`s what you are supposed to do when you are a serious young runner), and then you can make bold statements .

Cheers