2025 California T&F Thread

SJS? On the map? All anybody knows about the SJS down here is Jesuit, unfortunately.

Lots of greats from the SJS for sure, but SoCal seems to have a short memory for the Sac-Juaquin's stars. The issue lies in too small a population to field an extremely talented team.

@SJSGlaze, you are always glazing the SJS but never Broen Holman. Why is that? Are tou not a fan of the age cheating or do you think he’s overrated for another reason?

As much as I be glazing SJS, it’s kind of hard to glaze Holman due to the age cheating- but I give credit when credit is due. Plus, this Broen age discussion has been going on and on and on- I feel like this post is definitely risking the conversation to start again in this thread but yeah

No. That is objectively not true. Broen Holman is one of the top runners in the nation and he hails from the San Joaquin Section. He boasts PR‘s of 4:12 in the mile, 8:54 in the 2 mile, 14:41 in the XC 5K, and placing 24th in the nation in XC nationals. This shows that he is a great runner because he excels in strength, speed, and grit, and therefore he should get more respect. The active disrespect he gets on this thread and on website is atrocious because if someone like him wants to use sports to help them get into college then who cares? Let them be. I think we all owe Broen Holman an apology for that. And he’s also a good man of morals and good character. We could use more people like him in our lives.

@SJSGlaze, I agree that Broen Holman gets way too much hate so I hope my post above helps give credit where credit is due to him!

For those of you who actually went to the state meet and enjoy track & field as a fan of the sport who would you give outstanding athlete of the mett to for boys & girls?

This certainly does!

Hanne Thomsen and Conor Lott

Results show the definite talent. It's everything else that people (much more than a list of three) that people despise of that kid. And is he really a true sophomore (now junior)?

Hanne Thomson and Conor Lott were personally the most impressive- sub 9:50 is absolutely insane for girls, especially for California- I don’t think we’ve seen a sub 9:50 in recent years. Lott’s 4:03 is also just as an impressive just due to the last few state 1600 races always being insanely tactical. I don’t even think Caudillo broke 4:10 in the 1600 win in his 2022 race. Looks like Lott took some notes from Evan

Yes, he’s going into his junior year. Keep in mind that most underclassman are incredibly immature (especially guys) especially in a competitive environment. Let’s just hope he doesn’t turn out to be like Phillip Rocha and Aaron Sahlman

Too many people rely on sites that round a kid’s age up for some strange reason.

The young Jesuit man that got second in the 800 ran well. That being said he's no Michael Stember.

Caudillo didn't break 4:10 that year because of the 25mph winds circling the stadium.

The results on prepcaltrack now show that heat of the 100m prelims as "irregular timing".

Heat 1 Preliminaries Wind: 0.6

1 Jaden Jefferson 11 Delasalle-nc 10.01Q (irreg. timing)
2 Nicolas Obimgba 11 Torrance-ss 10.20q (irreg. timing)
3 Antrell Harris 12 Birminghan-la 10.24q (irreg. timing)
4 Khairee Baker 12 AmCanyon-nc 10.32q (irreg. timing)
5 Laurence Burston 12 Helix-sd 10.51q 10.502 (irreg. timing)
6 Jacob Beals 12 Pleas. Grove -sj 10.79 (irreg. timing)

It wasn’t a waterfall it was an alley start. Not going sub 1:50 wasn’t because of anything that happened in the first 100.

Damn, that's well said.

And I agree completely.

Final thoughts from this year's state meet:

- Despite the absence of 10 out of the top 16 100 runners in the state, the b100 still delivered. Jefferson is a star! Just unfortunate about what happened with that timing. Supposedly still being debated right now. RT had two separate timing systems going that both matched up at 10.01 - but I mean, cmon.

- Sizemore - what a star! Brilliant runs in the 100 and 200. Could accomplish great things next year. I knew she was gonna win after I saw her jog in her 23.84 during prelims.

- Insane that Prince Buchango medaled in 3 individual running events at the state meet. Extraordinarily difficult to do. Section record in the 110, #2 all time section in the 200.

- Stadlman could be the next big thing. Despite missing a month of training with sickness and injury he still walks away with a 400 state title, one of the fastest 400s in state history, 20.84 in the 200, and almost became the first person since Michael Norman to pull off the 400/200 double (side note: Norman was also half asian. Go figure).

- Leo Francis is a STAR. 25 feet in the long jump, 20.8 in the 200, and a 10.45 last week. He opened up the season FAST and kept it moving. Kudos to him and his coach.

- Makenna Herbst - so close to the state meet record in the 800. Brilliant run all by herself. The depth in the g800 has improved so much over the last few years. 2:10 for 8th is insane business.

- Shame about Clara Adams in the 400. It's tough to walk back up from a DQ like that, but she is only a sophomore. Rutherford the 2 time state runner-up - consistency is it's own form of greatness.

- Unfortunate that the insane rules around the 800 start prevented us from seeing a fast time we all knew the guys out there were capable of. I'm going to say it again - the open 800 is not meant to be raced from an alley. It is a long sprint and should be run from lanes for the first 100 meters. Despite that, it was good to see many of the long-awaited matchups show up at the state meet. The top 3 plus Josiah Bowman are all underclassmen.

- Hanne Thomsen. Just brilliant. She's had a rocky high school career but what else is there to say about a 4:35/9:48 one day double? Possibly one of the best doubles in US HS history, period. Congrats to Jaelyn Williams making it back up from a devastating XC stress fracture.

- Excellent b1600. I'm not afraid to admit I was wrong, I said it was gonna be a very tactical race, and it certainly was not. Lott might be able to break 4 right now, 4:03 with a 56 last lap is nasty business - and he's only a junior.

- Eyan Turk - after a relatively quiet regular season he bosses a tremendous field to win a well-deserved championship. Kentucky picked up a good one - he ALWAYS performs when it counts.

- Jasir Fontenot - I mean, what is there to even say. Could become the greatest ever. The freshman record in the 110 at the start of the year was 14.4 - he dropped it by more than a second. The world U20 record is 12.79 and I wouldn't be shocked to see that go down next year.

- Morgan Herbst. 2nd all time behind SML is a good place to end your high school career. That is a state meet record that might not be broken for a long time. 4 under 41 is just as impressive, honestly. Last year the winning time was 41.24.

- It's good to see the b300h return to speed. It was very slow last year for some reason. I mentioned in my pre-meet predictions that Rendon would be dangerous, considering he had never been seriously challenged during the season, and I was right.

- Servite as a whole - I mean geez. Where do you even go from here. How do you progress from a place most programs as a whole have never even reached. The scary part is that they are obviously gonna receive a ton of transfers now that everyone sees what's going on. They have enough depth that one or two guys could go down (as they did this season) and still break some serious records. 40.00 is gonna look pedestrian compared to what that group could run next year.

- Loren Webster. 21 feet when it counted. Amazing stuff.

- I have to spend a minute on the relays, 4x100 and 4x400. I've seriously never seen depth like this in California. Even the 90s heydays of sprints in the state were nothing compared to whats going on now. 4 teams under 41 at the state meet is madness - and that is WITHOUT the two major programs in the state, Rancho C and LBP not making it through the rounds. Many of these programs are underclassmen-heavy as well - they will be back.

The 4x400.. I mean, I don't know lol. 4 teams under 3:10, with an additional 3 behind them under 3:12 is mind-boggling. How could something like this happen? It is insane. There aren't words that exist to describe how crazy the 4x400 depth in California is right now. Whats even crazier is the fact that none of these programs are even close to the state record of 3:07.40. That may never go.