From February 5, 2022
Dr. Jessica Rose: VAERS: Key Ways to Prove C19 Jab Harm Causation:
This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
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Funny how now one dies of the vaccine in the published cohort studies. But when crackpot grifters open up VAERS every death the providers were required to report regardless of causation is a vaccine death.
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Bad news out of Germany.
Actuaries across the world are seeing this...
Out of the 60 million vaccinated, 3 million had to get treated.
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Harambe's dashboard squints might need a new prescription.
He failed to see death as an outcome of covid-19
The Alberta data now shows
80+ boosted death rate 144.89
12-29 unvaxxed death rate 2.83
51x the death rate. Harambe claimed the 80+ boosted group had more immunity than the younger unvaxxed group. The rate for unvaxxed went down.
80+ boosted hospitalization rate 619.34
12-29 unvaxxed hospitalization rate 209.79That is nearly 3x the hospitalization rate.
The death rate of the group Harambe claimed had better immunity is nearing the hospitalization rate of the unvaxxed younger group.
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Lets discuss this:
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UKHSA data is back out again today, and the difference in performance between the vaccinated and unvaccinated continues to narrow. For 18-29 year olds, like Harambe and 2600 bro (who are probably the same guy), the vaccinated case rate (3,089.80) is more than 2.5 times greater than the unvaccinated case rate (1,200.60). The vaccinated hospitalization rate (7.69) is 17% greater than the unvaccinated hospitalization rate (6.54) and the death rate (0.29) is essentially the same (0.30).
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joedi|rt wrote:
UKHSA data is back out again today, and the difference in performance between the vaccinated and unvaccinated continues to narrow. For 18-29 year olds, like Harambe and 2600 bro (who are probably the same guy), the vaccinated case rate (3,089.80) is more than 2.5 times greater than the unvaccinated case rate (1,200.60). The vaccinated hospitalization rate (7.69) is 17% greater than the unvaccinated hospitalization rate (6.54) and the death rate (0.29) is essentially the same (0.30).
The CDC data would tell a similar story in the US, but they refuse to release that information.
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UKHSA Week 8 Surveillance Report vaccine efficacy as actually reported by the UKHSA:
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DanM wrote:
The CDC data would tell a similar story in the US, but they refuse to release that information.
The CDC data from VISION network surveillance tells a similar story to the UK data shown above:
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joedi|rt wrote:
UKHSA data is back out again today, and the difference in performance between the vaccinated and unvaccinated continues to narrow. For 18-29 year olds, like Harambe and 2600 bro (who are probably the same guy), the vaccinated case rate (3,089.80) is more than 2.5 times greater than the unvaccinated case rate (1,200.60). The vaccinated hospitalization rate (7.69) is 17% greater than the unvaccinated hospitalization rate (6.54) and the death rate (0.29) is essentially the same (0.30).
You continue to dashboard squint despite the data being expressly disqualified for the conclusions you're trying to make.
You use case rates when we know that Omicron breaks through all prior forms of immunity for mild infection.
You refuse to admit any mistakes. Vaccines were supposed to fail with Delta and Omicron. They have not. We've been 'wait two weeks''d by you repeatedly. Worse than the COVID doomers in March 2020 because at their their predictions were partly correct.
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Monkeys Skyping wrote:
DanM wrote:
The CDC data would tell a similar story in the US, but they refuse to release that information.
The CDC data from VISION network surveillance tells a similar story to the UK data shown above:
I think this study is bad? I haven't given it a deep read but I don't see them addressing my concerns. As of January 2022, anyone who had a booster for >4 months was extremely high risk or immunocompromised. Of course we would expect to see less effectiveness in this population relative to the general pop who got the booster in Nov and Dec.
I think this study exaggerates 'waning' of the booster against hospitalizaiton (although protection remains quite strong!!). Vaccines are even better than this study suggests.
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pointer outer wrote:
Harambe's dashboard squints might need a new prescription.
He failed to see death as an outcome of covid-19
The Alberta data now shows
80+ boosted death rate 144.89
12-29 unvaxxed death rate 2.83
51x the death rate. Harambe claimed the 80+ boosted group had more immunity than the younger unvaxxed group. The rate for unvaxxed went down.
80+ boosted hospitalization rate 619.34
12-29 unvaxxed hospitalization rate 209.79That is nearly 3x the hospitalization rate.
The death rate of the group Harambe claimed had better immunity is nearing the hospitalization rate of the unvaxxed younger group.
More strong evidence that vaccines work amazingly well. Thank you for returning to this thread weekly to prove how right I am. The unvaccinated 80+ rate is ~4500/100k. Unvaxxed dying en mass due to antivaxx murderous propaganda.
Thankfully you and I understand how effective vaccines are!
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Monkeys Skyping wrote:
UKHSA Week 8 Surveillance Report vaccine efficacy as actually reported by the UKHSA:
Joedirt fuming
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That study is from months ago. NOW that nearly everyone 18-29 has been infected with Omicron (vaccinated and unvaccinated alike), there is no differential in prognosis between the vaccinated and unvaccinated (other than the vaccinated have a much higher case rate, as hospitalization rates and death rates are about the same).
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Has the US reached herd immunity? If not, are we close?
After skyrocketing in December and January, new cases have dropped 90-95% in the US and are continuing to drop about 30% per week. Deaths are following the same pattern as previous outbreaks, lagging case trends by a few weeks so they should be way down in a month or so.
Since Thanksgiving, we've seen a LOT of cases... 30 million confirmed case and some experts estimate actual cases to be 3-6 times greater. That's 90 to 180 million plus 215 million who are fully vaccinated. Obviously, there's some overlap, but we could be up to herd immunity levels.
I suspect that the number of infections was even greater.
I've talked to several people who told me that they and their friends had had symptoms, but they didn't bother to get tested because testing was hard to find during the peak and, well, why bother to get tested if you're only going to be told to go home? I was one of those people, but I was forced to test because I had an upcoming medical appointment.
When I tested positive, all I got was a medical portal message saying something like SARS-CoV-2 Detected. No follow-up or anything. If that's all you get, why bother to test?
Where I live, masking is way down, but so are new cases. Considering how infectious Omicron is, cases should be going up again, but they're not.
I think it's because Omicron has swept through most of the population.
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Harambe wrote:
pointer outer wrote:
Harambe's dashboard squints might need a new prescription.
He failed to see death as an outcome of covid-19
The Alberta data now shows
80+ boosted death rate 144.89
12-29 unvaxxed death rate 2.83
51x the death rate. Harambe claimed the 80+ boosted group had more immunity than the younger unvaxxed group. The rate for unvaxxed went down.
80+ boosted hospitalization rate 619.34
12-29 unvaxxed hospitalization rate 209.79That is nearly 3x the hospitalization rate.
The death rate of the group Harambe claimed had better immunity is nearing the hospitalization rate of the unvaxxed younger group.
More strong evidence that vaccines work amazingly well. Thank you for returning to this thread weekly to prove how right I am. The unvaccinated 80+ rate is ~4500/100k. Unvaxxed dying en mass due to antivaxx murderous propaganda.
Thankfully you and I understand how effective vaccines are!
Spoken like a true foot soldier for the industry. Lol. As you rearrange the deck chairs of the Titanic, you continue to defend these dangerous vaccines, and the fraud & corruption from the manufacturers & the CDC. The day of reckoning is coming!
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Harambe wrote:
joedi|rt wrote:
UKHSA data is back out again today, and the difference in performance between the vaccinated and unvaccinated continues to narrow. For 18-29 year olds, like Harambe and 2600 bro (who are probably the same guy), the vaccinated case rate (3,089.80) is more than 2.5 times greater than the unvaccinated case rate (1,200.60). The vaccinated hospitalization rate (7.69) is 17% greater than the unvaccinated hospitalization rate (6.54) and the death rate (0.29) is essentially the same (0.30).
You continue to dashboard squint despite the data being expressly disqualified for the conclusions you're trying to make.
You use case rates when we know that Omicron breaks through all prior forms of immunity for mild infection.
You refuse to admit any mistakes. Vaccines were supposed to fail with Delta and Omicron. They have not. We've been 'wait two weeks''d by you repeatedly. Worse than the COVID doomers in March 2020 because at their their predictions were partly correct.
Harambe, didn't he also give hospitalization and death rates, which appear quite similar?
And joedi|rt, a link would be appreciated to back-up the claims you've made.
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fisky wrote:
Has the US reached herd immunity? If not, are we close?
Given the high incidence of breakthrough infections (both vaccinated and prior infections) from omicron, the thinking seems to be that "herd immunity" in the sense of covid eradication ala polio or the measles is never going to happen with covid.
Rather there will likely be periodic waves through the population as antibody immunity levels fade, but with severe outcome probability reduced by t cell immune response. That is, covid will become more like the flu, but it remains to be seen how often these waves occur and how severe are the outcomes of any particular variant's wave.
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Official COVID vaccine thread moderator wrote:
Harambe wrote:
You continue to dashboard squint despite the data being expressly disqualified for the conclusions you're trying to make.
You use case rates when we know that Omicron breaks through all prior forms of immunity for mild infection.
You refuse to admit any mistakes. Vaccines were supposed to fail with Delta and Omicron. They have not. We've been 'wait two weeks''d by you repeatedly. Worse than the COVID doomers in March 2020 because at their their predictions were partly correct.
Harambe, didn't he also give hospitalization and death rates, which appear quite similar?
And joedi|rt, a link would be appreciated to back-up the claims you've made.
The UKHSA data can be found here:
To get vaccinated level details, requires some math, as they have started comparing rates with boosted individuals instead of simply vaccinated individuals as they are trying to show efficacy (and the vaccinated level details don't really show much, but the boosted stats still show a little (but nowhere near the 99% levels that 2600 bro and Harambe like to hold onto).
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