surf city USA marathon
Marathon
Runner Details Race Results
Bib: 1240
Name: Frank Meza
Gender: M
Age: 65
Hometown: South Pasadena, CA
Overall: 40 out of 2379
Men: 36 out of 1443
M 65-69: 1 out of 37
Age/Grade: 87.21% Place: 2
Finish: 3:04:44 Pace: 7:02
Chip Time: 3:04:44
Gun Time: 3:05:07
Split Times
3 Mi: 21:20 Pace: 7:06
6 Mi: 41:06 Pace: 6:51
9 Mi: Pace:
10 Mi: 1:10:33 Pace: 7:03
13 Mi: 1:30:06 Pace: 6:55
15.4 Mi: Pace:
16 Mi: Pace:
20.9 Mi: 2:23:46 Pace: 6:52
above surf city is 2014
Pandora's Xob wrote:
Psychology 1 wrote:
The psychology of it all is not fascinating, not to me anyways.
It's elementary on too many levels to count as it can be done so easily. It's ego, pure ego but some people take it way too far as this chap has appeared to do.
I highly doubt he could hold that pace for any length of time on his best day, not even a half marathon.
He never mentioned that he had stopped to take a pee, not once, till confronted with indisputable evidence. Then it's plan B, I had to take a pee but just for a few seconds.
Now it'll be a different excuse. I took a pee but forgot to mention that I walked down the sidewalk parallel to the race course because I felt that I might have to go again...wait for it as I promise you it's coming. Think like a cheater and you'll come up with a rolodex of excuses.
If there was a camera across the street and it showed him just standing there for several minutes, he'll then say that he forgot to mention that he had a dizzy spell and was slightly incoherent, hence not remember how long he stood there for.
But...there's no video of him LEAVING the course to take his pee. Wait for it...
He walked the course over a half a mile on the sidewalk prior to the point where the camera shows him jumping back in, so he did nothing wrong as he can't be proven wrong. Again, wait for it.
If witnesses came forward and saw him on a bike or getting out of a car---->"It wasn't me"
Cheaters usual lie for a living. Book mark it as my theories will come to fruition soon. Wait for it;)
I don't think anybody on this entire thread has described it better than this. I'm in total agreement as well with what you are saying will be his fallback lies and he's probably already read your post and is happy that you gave him a few new ideas since his "a few seconds to pee" won't hold water anymore. Great post dude!
I'd bet he'll be using these excuses (lies) listed and then some more for fun. He now knows that the video doesn't show him going off the course to pee for a few seconds then jumping back on, so you surely nailed it with what his response will be. No more marathons for him...to many witnesses to his shenanigans.
surf city usa marathon 2013 Frank Meza lines up much closer to the front. Marathon
Runner Details Race Results
Bib: 1190
Name: Frank Meza
Gender: M
Age: 64
Hometown: South Pasadena, CA
Overall: 45 out of 2309
Men: 44 out of 1395
M 60-64: 2 out of 55
Age/Grade: 85.96% Place: 1
Finish: 3:05:30 Pace: 7:05
Chip Time: 3:05:30
Gun Time: 3:05:35
Split Times
3 Mi: 21:13 Pace: 7:05
6 Mi: 42:13 Pace: 7:03
Half: 1:30:43 Pace: 6:56
15 Mi: Pace:
20.9 Mi: 2:25:42 Pace: 6:59
24 Mi: 2:49:15 Pace: 7:04
surf city usa marathon 2011 (missed both front mats started way way after the gun??? Marathon
Runner Details Race Results
Bib: 1306
Name: Frank Meza
Gender: M
Age: 62
Hometown: South Pasadena, CA
Overall: 69 out of 2438
Men: 63 out of 1469
M 60-64: 1 out of 46
Age/Grade: 81.44% Place: 4
Finish: 3:11:53 Pace: 7:20
Chip Time: 3:11:53
Gun Time: 3:34:58
Split Times
3 Mi: Pace:
6 Mi: Pace:
12.2 Mi: 1:29:23 Pace: 7:20
20.9 Mi: 2:31:39 Pace: 7:16
Surprise, surprise. Surf City 2013 results:
https://www.runraceresults.com/Secure/RaceResults.cfm?ID=RCHA2013
He only shows up in ONE photo spot:
https://www.marathonfoto.com/Proofs?PIN=H48B57&LastName=MEZA
Check the runners around him finishing near 3:05. Everyone else seems to show up at 4-5 photo spots. Must be working on some revolutionary medical process that gives him the power of invisibility.
santa clarita marathon 2007 (fast first 5 miles) Marathon
Runner Details Race Results
Bib: 317
Name: Frank Meza
Gender: M
Age: 58
Hometown: South Pasadena, CA
Overall: 39 out of 351
Men: 37 out of 265
M 55-59: 1 out of 16
Age/Grade: 72.14% Place: 11
Finish: 3:27:23 Pace: 7:55
Chip Time: 3:27:23
Gun Time: 3:28:01
Split Times
5.5 Mile: 34:04 Pace: 6:12
15.25 Mile: 1:52:59 Pace: 7:25
21.5 Mile: 2:43:36 Pace: 7:37
23.5 Mile: 2:59:26 Pace: 7:39
This is hilarious, check out the body and clothing of Frank's age group winner at the Surf City 2013:
(Oh yeah, and he's got lots more on course location photos compared to Frank's one.)
https://www.marathonfoto.com/Proofs?PIN=H48835&lastName=NICHOLSON
Gotta be fair to Frank, he was beaten by a 60 year old, Frank was 64 years old, he was beaten by 1 minute 58 seconds to finish second in his age group, he was never going to let that happen again!!!
https://www.runraceresults.com/Secure/RaceResults.cfm?ID=RCHA2013
santa clarita marathon 2017 Frank Meza 3rd place Runner Details Race Results
Bib: 151
Name: Frank Meza
Gender: M
Age: 68
Hometown: South Pasadena, CA
Overall: 3 out of 247
Men: 3 out of 171
M 65-69: 1 out of 6
Age/Grade: 89.85% Place: 1
Finish: 3:01:00 Pace: 6:55
Chip Time: 3:01:00
Gun Time: 3:02:49
Split Times
5.5 Mile: 36:05 Pace: 6:34
15.3 Mile: 1:41:51 Pace: 6:40
21.5 Mile: 2:23:35 Pace: 6:41
Santa Clarita marathon 2017 Fernando Navarro (4th place)Marathon
Runner Details Race Results
Bib: 165
Name: Fernando Navarro
Gender: M
Age: 47
Hometown: Los Angeles, CA
Overall: 4 out of 247
Men: 4 out of 171
M 45-49: 2 out of 22
Age/Grade: 73.69% Place: 3
Finish: 3:01:29 Pace: 6:56
Chip Time: 3:01:29
Gun Time: 3:02:04
Split Times
5.5 Mile: 35:11 Pace: 6:24
15.3 Mile: 1:41:27 Pace: 6:38
21.5 Mile: 2:24:44 Pace: 6:44
Fernando Navarro must have been aware of Frank Meza on course, if he was on course, and how long he was on course. He too would have missed on a medal if the first 3 places were based on chip time, which seems to be the case.
This is getting ridiculous!
Surf City Marathon 2014 results:
https://www.runraceresults.com/Secure/RaceResults.cfm?ID=RCHA2014
Doc has ZERO photos running:
https://www.marathonfoto.com/Proofs?PIN=3H3P34&lastName=MEZA
Again, look at the people around him. Everyone else has 3-4.
Roderick Powell wrote:
santa clarita marathon 2007 ...
Chip Time: 3:27:23
Split Times
5.5 Mile: 34:04 Pace: 6:12
15.25 Mile: 1:52:59 Pace: 7:25
21.5 Mile: 2:43:36 Pace: 7:37
23.5 Mile: 2:59:26 Pace: 7:39
And slowed to 10-minute miles for the final 2.7 miles. I'm thinking this is legit, although that early pace is pretty amazing. My most recent marathon was a 3:07 at that same age (58), and I'm not sure I could have raced an all-out 5 miles at 6:12/mile.
I first came across Frank's name last year while tracking sub-3 marathons by M60 runners. I had aspirations of going for that this year at age 60, and was curious how many Americans achieve it. Not many, but then I saw Frank in the LA results, running WAY under 3, and in the M65-69 group. Impressive! And in a way, more discouraging than inspiring for me ...
Roderick Powell wrote:
Fernando Navarro must have been aware of Frank Meza on course, if he was on course, and how long he was on course. He too would have missed on a medal if the first 3 places were based on chip time, which seems to be the case.
Rod, does Dr Frank Meza ever race 5k, 8k, 10k?
That's Frank with fellow Kaiser Permanente doctor and Loyola High coach Phillip Bland, he was also one of The Three Banditos in the Pasadena half, the other two are also KP doctors, they must know what he's been up to all these years with his shenanigans.
Roderick Powell wrote:
Phillip Bland Francisco Meza Sara Tartof
There are more in the know than letting on. wrote:
That's Frank with fellow Kaiser Permanente doctor and Loyola High coach Phillip Bland, he was also one of The Three Banditos in the Pasadena half, the other two are also KP doctors, they must know what he's been up to all these years with his shenanigans.
Roderick Powell wrote:
Phillip Bland Francisco Meza Sara Tartof
They must know, they're doctors FFS involved in fitness, health and coaching, they regularly run the same marathons as him, Phillip and Sara 4 hours plus, Francisco 3 hours plus and they seem legit.
Just a rare 5k and more rare 10k, no 8k . Started as a trail runner. I had noticed that he seemed over the years to steadily improve, as though on purpose. I never thought it was impure. But I thought the steady lowering of times was on purpose. Long Beach, he ran 7 times, with each time faster than before. Santa Clarita and LAM followed similar paths. All Frank Meza's results are on athlinks. For Frank Meza results not on his profile (mostly older that are not on his profile) just highlight results in the search line and hit Frank Meza. Look for the age he would be during the result year. https://www.athlinks.com/athletes/375783990?&term=frank%20meza&category=global
I did compare the first 5 miles to other runners, it does appear to be faster for all of them.
Here's another one, and then I'm not going to bother with any more, because I already know what the outcome is.
Long Beach Marathon 2018:
https://www.motivrunning.com/run-longbeach/race/results/
He does better this time and actually manages to appear in 2 photo points, plus the finish, though I have a feeling the 2nd photo point was near the finish. And he ditched his shirt, so that must have been near the start.
http://www.finisherpix.com/gallery/photos/en/usd/2487/2920
Meanwhile, if you look up the photos of people who finished around him, they show up at maybe 4 or 5 different points. I mean, to be fair, this does not necessarily mean that the doc cut the course. It could be that perhaps the photographers at every single race screw up every single year and neglect to take his photo when he passes by. Or maybe he has offended them, and they refuse to. Or perhaps he is working on some kind of crazy biotech cloaking device. Or maybe his genetics just scatter and diffuse light differently from the rest of the human race. But I don't think so.
great photo to show what a 02:53:26 runner shouldn't look like lol