[quote]brazen2 wrote:
92% of today's reported deaths are from those 50+
64% of today's reported deaths are from those 70+
22% of today's positive cases reported are for 18-29 age group (previous weeks it has been ~35%)
Distribution of both newly reported cases and newly reported hospitalizations are evening out between age groups between 18-29 and 60-69
You got the numbers.
What % of these surging new number of cases are asymptomatic?
Fat hurts wrote:
brazen2 wrote:
Not new by any means. This information has been out there for quite a while.
Good to see you are coming around on the importance of testing though. Perhaps, at some point, you will be enlightened on other methods of stopping/controlling this epidemic.
Wear a mask
Social distance
Wash your hands
GET TESTED
The testing we have now is useless in stopping the spread of the disease.
You need to be enlightened to the fact that what you are preaching is obviously not working.
Then watch the video and you will understand why you have been wrong.
<Sigh>
I guess I spoke too soon.
You need to watch that video again.
Science is hard sometimes, but he does a good job explaining it. I have little confidence you'll comprehend it, but I do have confidence. :)
A fellow was stuck on his rooftop in a flood. He was praying to God for help.
Soon a man in a rowboat came by and the fellow shouted to the man on the roof, "Jump in, I can save you."
The stranded fellow shouted back, "No, it's OK, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me."
So the rowboat went on.
Then a motorboat came by. "The fellow in the motorboat shouted, "Jump in, I can save you."
To this the stranded man said, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."
So the motorboat went on.
Then a helicopter came by and the pilot shouted down, "Grab this rope and I will lift you to safety."
To this the stranded man again replied, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."
So the helicopter reluctantly flew away.
Soon the water rose above the rooftop and the man drowned. He went to Heaven. He finally got his chance to discuss this whole situation with God, at which point he exclaimed, "I had faith in you but you didn't save me, you let me drown. I don't understand why!"
To this God replied, "I sent you a rowboat and a motorboat and a helicopter, what more did you expect?"
Wear a mask
Social distance
Wash your hands
GET TESTED
Democrat media screams that coronavirus is surging.
It’s not.
Lots of incompetence demonstrated by democrat governors.
https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1285986415344590849?s=20
brazen2 wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
The testing we have now is useless in stopping the spread of the disease.
You need to be enlightened to the fact that what you are preaching is obviously not working.
Then watch the video and you will understand why you have been wrong.
<Sigh>
I guess I spoke too soon.
You need to watch that video again.
Science is hard sometimes, but he does a good job explaining it. I have little confidence you'll comprehend it, but I do have confidence. :)
Wear a mask
Social distance
Wash your hands
GET TESTED
If you think science is hard you should go back to school and give it another try. Science is really interesting and useful.
If you really did watch the video and you still don't understand why today's testing doesn't help stop the spread then I'd suggest starting in about 7th grade.
The first six minutes of the video explains why you have been wrong for this entire thread. It's mostly stuff I've told you before but now I get why you don't understand it. You need a better math and science background.
WWRD wrote:
agip wrote:
https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1285791696412971008?s=20Your source looks at cases...I deliberately don't look at cases - the issues there are too complex for me to understand them. Death data is more clear...although not completely of course.
But how clear? Can I assume you've seen the news conference where the Chicago spokesperson says that COVID does not need to be the cause of death for it to be listed as a COVID death? She specifically notes that you can be in hospice, given weeks to live, but when you die, you test for COVID, you are listed as a COVID death. This seems to be consistent across the nation (I haven''t verified the Florida motorcycle death yet, but I've seen in multiple places where a motorcycle accident victim ended up on the COVID death list because he had COVID at the time). Knowing what we know about media and government, this is why people don't trust that the COVID pandemic is what it's being sold as.[/quote]
That story resurfaced from a press conference in late March/early April. Dr. Ngozi Ezike has since corrected herself in saying that the cause of death/probably cause of death must be due to COVID-19. She has also said that they have backtracked and removed deaths they have associated with coronavirus that weren’t.
Fat hurts wrote:
Random testing is not part of the solution. Get tested only if you have reason to believe you have been exposed.
Hmmm.
Wear a mask
Social distance
Wash your hands
GET TESTED
brazen2 wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Random testing is not part of the solution. Get tested only if you have reason to believe you have been exposed.
Hmmm.
Wear a mask
Social distance
Wash your hands
GET TESTED
Yes, I was right about that. And there is plenty of science to back me up.
"You can make a strong argument that New York’s death rate would have been infinitely lower if they’d done nothing at all."
"Infinitely lower." This might be the stupidest notion I've ever heard of. COVID-19 came streaming into NYC in late Feb., early March and nobody did anything at all. That is why suddenly it was everywhere, overrunning hospitals, draining up PPE, ventilators etc. If they'd dont anything it would have been WAY worse.
Wear a mask
Social distance
Wash your hands
GET TESTED
Governor Kemp Calls on Georgians to Do "Four Things for Four Weeks" to Stop COVID-19
Governor Brian Kemp and Georgia Department of Public Health (DPH) Commissioner, Dr. Kathleen Toomey, are calling on all Georgians to implement "Four Things for Four Weeks" into their daily routines to flatten the curve and slow the spread of COVID-19.
1) Wear a mask when out in public or when you cannot keep distance inside.
2) Practice physical distancing – six feet from those you don’t live with.
3) Wash your hands for 20 seconds several times throughout the day with soap and warm water.
4) Follow the Executive Order and heed the guidance provided by public health officials.
Wear a mask
Social distance
Wash your hands
GET TESTED
brazen2 wrote:
Governor Kemp Calls on Georgians to Do "Four Things for Four Weeks" to Stop COVID-19
Governor Brian Kemp and Georgia Department of Public Health (DPH) Commissioner, Dr. Kathleen Toomey, are calling on all Georgians to implement "Four Things for Four Weeks" into their daily routines to flatten the curve and slow the spread of COVID-19.
1) Wear a mask when out in public or when you cannot keep distance inside.
2) Practice physical distancing – six feet from those you don’t live with.
3) Wash your hands for 20 seconds several times throughout the day with soap and warm water.
4) Follow the Executive Order and heed the guidance provided by public health officials.
Wear a mask
Social distance
Wash your hands
GET TESTED
Weirdly, none of those four things are GET TESTED.
Good work, everyone. This is definitely one of my all time favorite LRC troll threads.
trash panda wrote:
Good work, everyone. This is definitely one of my all time favorite LRC troll threads.
agreed. Some unusually subtle trolling going on in this thread.
One of the biggest jumps in deaths in recent memory today - the virus is really grabbing hold and killing now. For a few weeks the 7 day average has been inching up by 10-20...it leaped 30 today.
New all time highs in FL CA TX and a new cyclical high in the US and the world, by a lot.
7 day rolling average of daily deaths
1100 wrote:
brazen2 wrote:
Governor Kemp Calls on Georgians to Do "Four Things for Four Weeks" to Stop COVID-19
Governor Brian Kemp and Georgia Department of Public Health (DPH) Commissioner, Dr. Kathleen Toomey, are calling on all Georgians to implement "Four Things for Four Weeks" into their daily routines to flatten the curve and slow the spread of COVID-19.
1) Wear a mask when out in public or when you cannot keep distance inside.
2) Practice physical distancing – six feet from those you don’t live with.
3) Wash your hands for 20 seconds several times throughout the day with soap and warm water.
4) Follow the Executive Order and heed the guidance provided by public health officials.
Wear a mask
Social distance
Wash your hands
GET TESTED
Weirdly, none of those four things are GET TESTED.
A fellow was stuck on his rooftop in a flood. He was praying to God for help.
Soon a man in a rowboat came by and the fellow shouted to the man on the roof, "Jump in, I can save you."
The stranded fellow shouted back, "No, it's OK, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me."
So the rowboat went on.
Then a motorboat came by. "The fellow in the motorboat shouted, "Jump in, I can save you."
To this the stranded man said, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."
So the motorboat went on.
Then a helicopter came by and the pilot shouted down, "Grab this rope and I will lift you to safety."
To this the stranded man again replied, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."
So the helicopter reluctantly flew away.
Soon the water rose above the rooftop and the man drowned. He went to Heaven. He finally got his chance to discuss this whole situation with God, at which point he exclaimed, "I had faith in you but you didn't save me, you let me drown. I don't understand why!"
To this God replied, "I sent you a rowboat and a motorboat and a helicopter, what more did you expect?"
Wear a mask
Social distance
Wash your hands
GET TESTED
Wear a mask
Social distance
Wash your hands
GET TESTED
brazen2 wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Random testing is not part of the solution. Get tested only if you have reason to believe you have been exposed.
Hmmm.
Wear a mask
Social distance
Wash your hands
GET TESTED
Since you've been reading my old posts, you should now understand that I've been right all along.
Your advice and the advice of our governor has been a disaster. When you just tell people to "be careful" and "get tested" you give this false sense that there are easy answers.
It's the kind of thinking that has killed a lot of Georgians.
agip wrote:
WWRD wrote:
But how clear? Can I assume you've seen the news conference where the Chicago spokesperson says that COVID does not need to be the cause of death for it to be listed as a COVID death? She specifically notes that you can be in hospice, given weeks to live, but when you die, you test for COVID, you are listed as a COVID death. This seems to be consistent across the nation (I haven''t verified the Florida motorcycle death yet, but I've seen in multiple places where a motorcycle accident victim ended up on the COVID death list because he had COVID at the time). Knowing what we know about media and government, this is why people don't trust that the COVID pandemic is what it's being sold as.
it's true that data are collected by human beings, and it's not always clear what is a covid death and what is not. Mistakes are made, certainly.
But it takes a special kind of conspiracy-crazed moran to think that the death stats aren't generally correct.
I know they want to protect trump and hate on the libs and that clouds their vision.
In the grand scheme of things I don't give two sh*ts about Trump, but I do give a damn about this country's future, not the least of which for my kids. And I'm sorry, but between the numbers reported (and the inconsistent and murky definitions of counts), and the way it's being used, generally by the left, to crush the economy and culture of the country, I tend towards that COVID's threat (which I 100% believe is a new virus that has added to what the death toll would have been otherwise) is overblown. That the costs to this country, from it's current course, are going to far outweigh the benefits of fighting it the way we are. And that the groupthink, and bunker mentality, of many we see on here, are classic cases of humans being manipulated, controlled by fear or emotion, not unlike other instances in human history, the most obvious being NAZI Germany.
7-day positivity rates for reported cases have been flat (small drop) for the past 5 days since a peak on Jul17
Wear a mask
Social distance
Wash your hands
GET TESTED
7-day average for deaths moving back to up to (and likely above) late June averages.
Wear a mask
Social distance
Wash your hands
GET TESTED
WWRD wrote:
agip wrote:
it's true that data are collected by human beings, and it's not always clear what is a covid death and what is not. Mistakes are made, certainly.
But it takes a special kind of conspiracy-crazed moran to think that the death stats aren't generally correct.
I know they want to protect trump and hate on the libs and that clouds their vision.
In the grand scheme of things I don't give two sh*ts about Trump, but I do give a damn about this country's future, not the least of which for my kids. And I'm sorry, but between the numbers reported (and the inconsistent and murky definitions of counts), and the way it's being used, generally by the left, to crush the economy and culture of the country, I tend towards that COVID's threat (which I 100% believe is a new virus that has added to what the death toll would have been otherwise) is overblown. That the costs to this country, from it's current course, are going to far outweigh the benefits of fighting it the way we are. And that the groupthink, and bunker mentality, of many we see on here, are classic cases of humans being manipulated, controlled by fear or emotion, not unlike other instances in human history, the most obvious being NAZI Germany.
Invoke the Nazis and you've lost the argument.