Yikes!
"...the COVID-19 vaccine could be viewed as the greatest medical mistake in history."
This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
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Robert Malone is an American physician and biochemist. His early work focused on mRNA technology,[3] pharmaceuticals, and drug repurposing research.
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Kobbs Hessler wrote:
LOL! "mass disproportionate deaths" Do you understand this? Yes, a few Amish died from Covid, but those numbers were not out of line with the wider vaxxed population. Again, if the Amish suffered *disproportionately* by being unvaxxed, the media would have been more gleeful than a lottery winner and reported on it ad nauseam.
Amish deaths in the period April-December 2020 were 53% above expectation per table 1 of the Stein etal paper from the previous link. This compares to about 17% above expectation for the US as a whole.
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Monkeys Skyping wrote:
Kobbs Hessler wrote:
LOL! "mass disproportionate deaths" Do you understand this? Yes, a few Amish died from Covid, but those numbers were not out of line with the wider vaxxed population. Again, if the Amish suffered *disproportionately* by being unvaxxed, the media would have been more gleeful than a lottery winner and reported on it ad nauseam.
Amish deaths in the period April-December 2020 were 53% above expectation per table 1 of the Stein etal paper from the previous link. This compares to about 17% above expectation for the US as a whole.
And you believe that?
And Bidonomics is going great, Ukraine is winning, Covid came from nature, Israel is a democracy, Saddam had WMDs, the jab is safe and effective, excess deaths among young people in 2021,2022, and 2023 are not from the jab, it's just an odd coincidence that the rise in autism correlates 100% to the increase in vaccines given, government is looking out for us, 2 planes knocked down 3 skyscrapers on 911, passports were found in the rubble in NYC after 911 but the blackboxes were destroyed, that Lucky Larry Silverstein, his son, and his daughter all missed their meeting at the WTC on 911 for separate reasons is just an odd coincidence, the fact that highly vaxxed nations fared far worse than lowly vaxxed nations proves nothing, that Trump lost massive leads in GA, PA, WI, and MI in the days after election day in 2020 is not suspicious, Trump really is a Russian agent, the 2020 election was the safest and most legit ever, and the check is in the mail
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Newname wrote:
Monkeys Skyping wrote:
Amish deaths in the period April-December 2020 were 53% above expectation per table 1 of the Stein etal paper from the previous link. This compares to about 17% above expectation for the US as a whole.
And you believe that?
And Bidonomics is going great, Ukraine is winning, Covid came from nature, Israel is a democracy, Saddam had WMDs, the jab is safe and effective, excess deaths among young people in 2021,2022, and 2023 are not from the jab, it's just an odd coincidence that the rise in autism correlates 100% to the increase in vaccines given, government is looking out for us, 2 planes knocked down 3 skyscrapers on 911, passports were found in the rubble in NYC after 911 but the blackboxes were destroyed, that Lucky Larry Silverstein, his son, and his daughter all missed their meeting at the WTC on 911 for separate reasons is just an odd coincidence, the fact that highly vaxxed nations fared far worse than lowly vaxxed nations proves nothing, that Trump lost massive leads in GA, PA, WI, and MI in the days after election day in 2020 is not suspicious, Trump really is a Russian agent, the 2020 election was the safest and most legit ever, and the check is in the mail
Man, this level of paranoia and blind contrarianism must be mentally and physically taxing. It’s time to take a chill pill as the kids say Unkle
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antivaxxers killing democracy - - - - - - - - - - wrote:
Newname wrote:
And you believe that?
And Bidonomics is going great, Ukraine is winning, Covid came from nature, Israel is a democracy, Saddam had WMDs, the jab is safe and effective, excess deaths among young people in 2021,2022, and 2023 are not from the jab, it's just an odd coincidence that the rise in autism correlates 100% to the increase in vaccines given, government is looking out for us, 2 planes knocked down 3 skyscrapers on 911, passports were found in the rubble in NYC after 911 but the blackboxes were destroyed, that Lucky Larry Silverstein, his son, and his daughter all missed their meeting at the WTC on 911 for separate reasons is just an odd coincidence, the fact that highly vaxxed nations fared far worse than lowly vaxxed nations proves nothing, that Trump lost massive leads in GA, PA, WI, and MI in the days after election day in 2020 is not suspicious, Trump really is a Russian agent, the 2020 election was the safest and most legit ever, and the check is in the mail
Man, this level of paranoia and blind contrarianism must be mentally and physically taxing. It’s time to take a chill pill as the kids say Unkle
Scary that you either still cling to all these blatant lies we've been told by "authorities" or, worse, know that they were all lies and still believe what the establishment tells us. Or maybe just don't see the danger in buying the lies
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But why be concerned? People are being poisoned. No biggie
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Newname wrote:
Monkeys Skyping wrote:
Amish deaths in the period April-December 2020 were 53% above expectation per table 1 of the Stein etal paper from the previous link. This compares to about 17% above expectation for the US as a whole.
And you believe that?
And Bidonomics is going great, Ukraine is winning, Covid came from nature, Israel is a democracy, Saddam had WMDs, the jab is safe and effective, excess deaths among young people in 2021,2022, and 2023 are not from the jab, it's just an odd coincidence that the rise in autism correlates 100% to the increase in vaccines given, government is looking out for us, 2 planes knocked down 3 skyscrapers on 911, passports were found in the rubble in NYC after 911 but the blackboxes were destroyed, that Lucky Larry Silverstein, his son, and his daughter all missed their meeting at the WTC on 911 for separate reasons is just an odd coincidence, the fact that highly vaxxed nations fared far worse than lowly vaxxed nations proves nothing, that Trump lost massive leads in GA, PA, WI, and MI in the days after election day in 2020 is not suspicious, Trump really is a Russian agent, the 2020 election was the safest and most legit ever, and the check is in the mail
What did your therapist say?
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Whoa psycho wrote:
Newname wrote:
And you believe that?
And Bidonomics is going great, Ukraine is winning, Covid came from nature, Israel is a democracy, Saddam had WMDs, the jab is safe and effective, excess deaths among young people in 2021,2022, and 2023 are not from the jab, it's just an odd coincidence that the rise in autism correlates 100% to the increase in vaccines given, government is looking out for us, 2 planes knocked down 3 skyscrapers on 911, passports were found in the rubble in NYC after 911 but the blackboxes were destroyed, that Lucky Larry Silverstein, his son, and his daughter all missed their meeting at the WTC on 911 for separate reasons is just an odd coincidence, the fact that highly vaxxed nations fared far worse than lowly vaxxed nations proves nothing, that Trump lost massive leads in GA, PA, WI, and MI in the days after election day in 2020 is not suspicious, Trump really is a Russian agent, the 2020 election was the safest and most legit ever, and the check is in the mail
What did your therapist say?
He said that you apparently don't mind being lied to and stolen from
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antivaxxers killing democracy - - - - - - - - - - wrote:
Newname wrote:
And you believe that?
And Bidonomics is going great, Ukraine is winning, Covid came from nature, Israel is a democracy, Saddam had WMDs, the jab is safe and effective, excess deaths among young people in 2021,2022, and 2023 are not from the jab, it's just an odd coincidence that the rise in autism correlates 100% to the increase in vaccines given, government is looking out for us, 2 planes knocked down 3 skyscrapers on 911, passports were found in the rubble in NYC after 911 but the blackboxes were destroyed, that Lucky Larry Silverstein, his son, and his daughter all missed their meeting at the WTC on 911 for separate reasons is just an odd coincidence, the fact that highly vaxxed nations fared far worse than lowly vaxxed nations proves nothing, that Trump lost massive leads in GA, PA, WI, and MI in the days after election day in 2020 is not suspicious, Trump really is a Russian agent, the 2020 election was the safest and most legit ever, and the check is in the mail
Man, this level of paranoia and blind contrarianism must be mentally and physically taxing. It’s time to take a chill pill as the kids say Unkle
You know he’s the kind of guy who tries to work in his paranoia into every discussion at home and at work. Everyone in his life is exhausted of it so he comes here
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Newname wrote:
antivaxxers killing democracy - - - - - - - - - - wrote:
Man, this level of paranoia and blind contrarianism must be mentally and physically taxing. It’s time to take a chill pill as the kids say Unkle
Scary that you either still cling to all these blatant lies we've been told by "authorities" or, worse, know that they were all lies and still believe what the establishment tells us. Or maybe just don't see the danger in buying the lies
Hardly post here anymore because it’s a moot point and we all know Covid is over, Omicron ended it. But aside from the vaccine/911 stuff, what do you disagree w specifically? Do you think Saddam had WMD? Do you really believe the bat/pangolin/wet market theory for the origin of Covid? Not everything is crazy and conspiratorial. Sometimes people are just making a point, a necessary one. You probably think Russia blew up her own Nordstream pipelines too, you know, the official MSM narrative in the beginning.
I know you don’t understand nuance, but it pisses you off to no end that people like us exist who refused the mRNA jabs, “suffered” Covid, and now, very likely, have better immunity than you. You will go to no end to tell us how we really risked it, and produce exactly one paper telling us we are at risk of dementia, autoimmunity, or cardiomyopathy. Did you ever consider that maybe it IS all bull$hit, outside of some cohorts who really did need the vaccine? Nope, you didn’t, you can’t even fathom it. You can’t fathom that many people died WITH Covid or from the hepato and nephrotoxic Covid protocols followed by almost lethal sedation.
You are that guy at the poker table, and it’s ok.
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Covidiocy wrote:
Newname wrote:
Scary that you either still cling to all these blatant lies we've been told by "authorities" or, worse, know that they were all lies and still believe what the establishment tells us. Or maybe just don't see the danger in buying the lies
Hardly post here anymore because it’s a moot point and we all know Covid is over, Omicron ended it. But aside from the vaccine/911 stuff, what do you disagree w specifically? Do you think Saddam had WMD? Do you really believe the bat/pangolin/wet market theory for the origin of Covid? Not everything is crazy and conspiratorial. Sometimes people are just making a point, a necessary one. You probably think Russia blew up her own Nordstream pipelines too, you know, the official MSM narrative in the beginning.
I know you don’t understand nuance, but it pisses you off to no end that people like us exist who refused the mRNA jabs, “suffered” Covid, and now, very likely, have better immunity than you. You will go to no end to tell us how we really risked it, and produce exactly one paper telling us we are at risk of dementia, autoimmunity, or cardiomyopathy. Did you ever consider that maybe it IS all bull$hit, outside of some cohorts who really did need the vaccine? Nope, you didn’t, you can’t even fathom it. You can’t fathom that many people died WITH Covid or from the hepato and nephrotoxic Covid protocols followed by almost lethal sedation.
You are that guy at the poker table, and it’s ok.
Meant to reply to “Antivaxxers defending Democracy.”
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Covidiocy wrote:
Newname wrote:
Scary that you either still cling to all these blatant lies we've been told by "authorities" or, worse, know that they were all lies and still believe what the establishment tells us. Or maybe just don't see the danger in buying the lies
Hardly post here anymore because it’s a moot point and we all know Covid is over, Omicron ended it. But aside from the vaccine/911 stuff, what do you disagree w specifically? Do you think Saddam had WMD? Do you really believe the bat/pangolin/wet market theory for the origin of Covid? Not everything is crazy and conspiratorial. Sometimes people are just making a point, a necessary one. You probably think Russia blew up her own Nordstream pipelines too, you know, the official MSM narrative in the beginning.
I know you don’t understand nuance, but it pisses you off to no end that people like us exist who refused the mRNA jabs, “suffered” Covid, and now, very likely, have better immunity than you. You will go to no end to tell us how we really risked it, and produce exactly one paper telling us we are at risk of dementia, autoimmunity, or cardiomyopathy. Did you ever consider that maybe it IS all bull$hit, outside of some cohorts who really did need the vaccine? Nope, you didn’t, you can’t even fathom it. You can’t fathom that many people died WITH Covid or from the hepato and nephrotoxic Covid protocols followed by almost lethal sedation.
You are that guy at the poker table, and it’s ok.
You missed what I said by 180 degrees.
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Newname wrote:
Covidiocy wrote:
Hardly post here anymore because it’s a moot point and we all know Covid is over, Omicron ended it. But aside from the vaccine/911 stuff, what do you disagree w specifically? Do you think Saddam had WMD? Do you really believe the bat/pangolin/wet market theory for the origin of Covid? Not everything is crazy and conspiratorial. Sometimes people are just making a point, a necessary one. You probably think Russia blew up her own Nordstream pipelines too, you know, the official MSM narrative in the beginning.
I know you don’t understand nuance, but it pisses you off to no end that people like us exist who refused the mRNA jabs, “suffered” Covid, and now, very likely, have better immunity than you. You will go to no end to tell us how we really risked it, and produce exactly one paper telling us we are at risk of dementia, autoimmunity, or cardiomyopathy. Did you ever consider that maybe it IS all bull$hit, outside of some cohorts who really did need the vaccine? Nope, you didn’t, you can’t even fathom it. You can’t fathom that many people died WITH Covid or from the hepato and nephrotoxic Covid protocols followed by almost lethal sedation.
You are that guy at the poker table, and it’s ok.
You missed what I said by 180 degrees.
Because I wasn’t trying to respond to you. I was responding to “Antivaxxers…,” the guy who never has an original thought but always piggybacks on 2600Harambro
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Newname wrote:
Covidiocy wrote:
Hardly post here anymore because it’s a moot point and we all know Covid is over, Omicron ended it. But aside from the vaccine/911 stuff, what do you disagree w specifically? Do you think Saddam had WMD? Do you really believe the bat/pangolin/wet market theory for the origin of Covid? Not everything is crazy and conspiratorial. Sometimes people are just making a point, a necessary one. You probably think Russia blew up her own Nordstream pipelines too, you know, the official MSM narrative in the beginning.
I know you don’t understand nuance, but it pisses you off to no end that people like us exist who refused the mRNA jabs, “suffered” Covid, and now, very likely, have better immunity than you. You will go to no end to tell us how we really risked it, and produce exactly one paper telling us we are at risk of dementia, autoimmunity, or cardiomyopathy. Did you ever consider that maybe it IS all bull$hit, outside of some cohorts who really did need the vaccine? Nope, you didn’t, you can’t even fathom it. You can’t fathom that many people died WITH Covid or from the hepato and nephrotoxic Covid protocols followed by almost lethal sedation.
You are that guy at the poker table, and it’s ok.
You missed what I said by 180 degrees.
Because I wasn’t trying to respond to you. I was responding to “Antivaxxers…,” the guy who never has an original thought but always piggybacks on 2600Harambro
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Covid is over bro. We are at community immunity. Omicron, after prior infection OR vaccination, ended it. Find another topic.
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An prime example of manipulation and propaganda by Reuters a few days ago. The headline claims the latest vaccine is effective as a statement of fact, however, the first paragraph of the story tells us Moderna said the latest vaccine is effective.
HEADLINE: Moderna's updated COVID vaccine effective against 'Eris' variant in humans
PARAGRAPH 1: Aug 17 (Reuters) - Moderna (MRNA.O) said on Thursday an initial study data showed its updated COVID-19 vaccine to be effective against the "Eris" and "Fornax" subvariants in humans.
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Newname wrote:
And you believe that?
And Bidonomics is going great, Ukraine is winning, Covid came from nature, Israel is a democracy, Saddam had WMDs, the jab is safe and effective, excess deaths among young people in 2021,2022, and 2023 are not from the jab, it's just an odd coincidence that the rise in autism correlates 100% to the increase in vaccines given, government is looking out for us, 2 planes knocked down 3 skyscrapers on 911, passports were found in the rubble in NYC after 911 but the blackboxes were destroyed, that Lucky Larry Silverstein, his son, and his daughter all missed their meeting at the WTC on 911 for separate reasons is just an odd coincidence, the fact that highly vaxxed nations fared far worse than lowly vaxxed nations proves nothing, that Trump lost massive leads in GA, PA, WI, and MI in the days after election day in 2020 is not suspicious, Trump really is a Russian agent, the 2020 election was the safest and most legit ever, and the check is in the mail
- “Bidenomics” is going great as far as I’m concerned. I plan to vote for him again. He has a well-known stuttering problem, Anti-VAX most mad about inflation though. recent economic and job data is so good that fed has had to continue raising rates.
- “excess deaths” have not been shown to be from the jab & covid vaccines are still recommended by overwhelming majority of medical doctors in United States. Have been since they came out over two years ago
- Trump lost “massive leads” as they were counting because he discouraged folks from mail in votes/absentee voting. Therefore early on in the media it looked like Trump had a lead in some close states and then, as soon as the mail in ballots came in, those were overwhelmingly for Biden. Trump and his team in trouble now with all these indictments in GA
- too many confounders to compare highly vax nations with lowly vax nations. average age and life expectancy is high in advanced highly vax countries.
- I don’t think everyone thinks Trump “really is a Russian agent.” Is he kind of an idiot? yes. But we have him to thank along with Biden for operation warp speed & for recommending the vaccines to his fans.
- Usually there’s a lot of overlap with QAnon, crypto bros, antivax conspiracy theorists. They are all predicting (or think they’ve seen) massive deaths due to the shots, pending us civil War, inflation out of control, and a US dollar collapse - big banks, big pharma, cash is trash, government is totally incompetent, and crypto adoption coming, anti trans/anti diversity/ anti immigration/ anti women holding leadership positions, and a bet on the USA going downhill. You name it -just about every bad scenario about how the world has gone mad. The entertainers that promote these “big pharma shots are dangerous” theories tend to push the other items listed as well. None of this is happening, but they reflect the cynicism, lack of trust in society, and instability of these folks.
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