Nuname wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
So this is obviously Giles Corey. He is a nut case, but you do have to give him credit for being nostalgic. He thinks the whole COVID-19 pandemic is a Jewish conspiracy. This is also what people said about the Black Plague.
I try to ignore him but he keeps changing handles.
When you cannot explain how daily death numbers of 5, 3 and 78 make sense, cry anti-Semitism. Works for situation. One whine fits all
Yup, it's K5.
One villain (J*ws) fits all.
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
I like your approach. Florida reported 139 deaths today, we'll see if Georgia drops down at all (hopefully). Back-to-back 1,000 death days would be pretty discouraging.
You should probably count on 1000 death days for 4 days in a row (Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri).
Baked in.
agip wrote:
Nuname wrote:
5, 3, and 78
The series is nuts.
You are the one defending these numbers and the methodology, claiming you are familiar with it.
I see them as nuts.
Why is incumbent upon me to prove the numbers and the methodology are solid when I don't believe that to be the case? And how can I possibly prove that you are familiar with the methodology when you refuse to show that you are.
That makes no sense
bye
+1
brazen2 wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Today's data is out.
The graph is showing that deaths are starting to increase slightly. Remember that numbers on the far right of the graph tend to go up but not down. So if you see an average on the right side that is high you can reliably cite that data point.
The graph is also showing that cases are still on a steep upward trajectory. I don't know where you got the idea of a plateau. I do think it will have to level off some before long, but that hasn't happened yet.
There is a small part of me that thinks you may not be a troll (perhaps just ignorant), so I'll correct you again on the data.
I am correct that the 7-day average for deaths is at it's lowest since 3/27.
There will likely be a small increase or plateau in deaths over the next week. On average, 40% of the day's reported deaths are allocated to the 3 previous days. The rest are spread decreasingly over the remaining days. Over the first 7 days of the 14-day window, typically about 8-10% of deaths are allocated over that entire span and rarely on the last few days. The last 4-5 days are usually well baked. We may see it creep back up to 17-19 7-day average over the next 10 days (just as I previously correctly predicted the increase between Jun21-28).
Cases follow a similar pattern. The closer to the beginning of the 14-day window, the more baked the data is, on average. For example, the first 4 days of the 14-day window, typically account for 12% of newly reported cases. The last three days - ~35-40%. For today's newly reported cases, that held pretty true to average. Each of those 4 days accounted for between 2-4% of the cases. First 3 days - 39%. Today is the first day in quite a while that days within the 14 day window have all been lower than the -14 day. In the coming days (as early as tomorrow), we may see the first decrease in 7-day case average since mid-May.
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Unless there is a significant increase in cases attributed to 7/3-7/9, tomorrow will mark the 7th consecutive day that the 7-day moving average for cases have been below the peak on 7/2 (14-day data window). The previously predicted plateau in cases looks to continue for the short-term.
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brazen2 wrote:
Current Hospitalizations: 3,155. That’s a decrease of 28 patients in 24 hours. This is the first decrease reported since mid-June.
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^This is obviously not working.
But until now, I haven't been able to explain exactly WHY it's not working. The MedCram video below might have changed that. I don't usually post links in support of my position unless someone questions my facts. But this one is really exciting and shows a new idea that might make testing into a viable way to stop the pandemic.
Basically, most tests we run today are useless in stopping the spread. That's because by the time you get the test back you are either no longer contagious or you are so sick you are home in bed. So while a positive test is helpful in treatment, it's not helpful in keeping you from infecting others.
Without getting too technical, the video shows an inexpensive paper test that you can do at home and it only requires a little saliva. It's not as sensitive as the standard PCR test we are using now but it's so quick and inexpensive that everyone could take a test every day. Apparently, the only issue is to get FDA approval.
Note that this doctor's videos are usually aimed at med students. But this one should be understandable by almost anyone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7Sv_pS8MgQTimothy Foyle wrote:
Nuname wrote:
When you cannot explain how daily death numbers of 5, 3 and 78 make sense, cry anti-Semitism. Works for situation. One whine fits all
Yup, it's K5.
One villain (J*ws) fits all.
Classic.
How do daily deaths totals of 5, 3, and 78 make sense?
You anti-Semite
People not tested for Covid in Fla re being reported as testing positive for Covid.
It's here. 81 deaths reported today.
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brazen2 wrote:
It's here. 81 deaths reported today.
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GET TESTED
It is not.
Totally bogus data.
Democrats are easily deceived and fearful.
Nuname wrote:
People not tested for Covid in Fla re being reported as testing positive for Covid.
https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/coronavirus/desantis-concerned-after-people-who-werent-tested-for-covid-19-received-positive-results?fbclid=IwAR3VABioGR-3tnGa9AdATyTGrFSuTkaHep4C2y-KBbzeXSwjRmlAjBL6l00
More distracting nonsense like the motorcyclist accident who was recorded as a death. Yes, discrepancies and phony data happens, but it's not a big factor in the numbers.
81 deaths in Georgia is not great. Signals there are rising deaths in Georgia. Now, that daily death number might be worse than I suspected.
Fat hurts wrote:
brazen2 wrote:
Current Hospitalizations: 3,155. That’s a decrease of 28 patients in 24 hours. This is the first decrease reported since mid-June.
Wear a mask
Social distance
Wash your hands
GET TESTED
^This is obviously not working.
But until now, I haven't been able to explain exactly WHY it's not working. The MedCram video below might have changed that. I don't usually post links in support of my position unless someone questions my facts. But this one is really exciting and shows a new idea that might make testing into a viable way to stop the pandemic.
Basically, most tests we run today are useless in stopping the spread. That's because by the time you get the test back you are either no longer contagious or you are so sick you are home in bed. So while a positive test is helpful in treatment, it's not helpful in keeping you from infecting others.
Without getting too technical, the video shows an inexpensive paper test that you can do at home and it only requires a little saliva. It's not as sensitive as the standard PCR test we are using now but it's so quick and inexpensive that everyone could take a test every day. Apparently, the only issue is to get FDA approval.
Note that this doctor's videos are usually aimed at med students. But this one should be understandable by almost anyone.
Not new by any means. This information has been out there for quite a while.
Good to see you are coming around on the importance of testing though. Perhaps, at some point, you will be enlightened on other methods of stopping/controlling this epidemic.
Wear a mask
Social distance
Wash your hands
GET TESTED
Nuname wrote:
Timothy Foyle wrote:
Yup, it's K5.
One villain (J*ws) fits all.
Classic.
How do daily deaths totals of 5, 3, and 78 make sense?
You anti-Semite
You've already told us the answer, K5. Pssst . . . it's the J*ws!
brazen2 wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
^This is obviously not working.
But until now, I haven't been able to explain exactly WHY it's not working. The MedCram video below might have changed that. I don't usually post links in support of my position unless someone questions my facts. But this one is really exciting and shows a new idea that might make testing into a viable way to stop the pandemic.
Basically, most tests we run today are useless in stopping the spread. That's because by the time you get the test back you are either no longer contagious or you are so sick you are home in bed. So while a positive test is helpful in treatment, it's not helpful in keeping you from infecting others.
Without getting too technical, the video shows an inexpensive paper test that you can do at home and it only requires a little saliva. It's not as sensitive as the standard PCR test we are using now but it's so quick and inexpensive that everyone could take a test every day. Apparently, the only issue is to get FDA approval.
Note that this doctor's videos are usually aimed at med students. But this one should be understandable by almost anyone.
Not new by any means. This information has been out there for quite a while.
Good to see you are coming around on the importance of testing though. Perhaps, at some point, you will be enlightened on other methods of stopping/controlling this epidemic.
Wear a mask
Social distance
Wash your hands
GET TESTED
The testing we have now is useless in stopping the spread of the disease.
You need to be enlightened to the fact that what you are preaching is obviously not working.
Then watch the video and you will understand why you have been wrong.
agip wrote:
https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1285791696412971008?s=20
Your source looks at cases...I deliberately don't look at cases - the issues there are too complex for me to understand them. Death data is more clear...although not completely of course.[/quote]
But how clear? Can I assume you've seen the news conference where the Chicago spokesperson says that COVID does not need to be the cause of death for it to be listed as a COVID death? She specifically notes that you can be in hospice, given weeks to live, but when you die, you test for COVID, you are listed as a COVID death. This seems to be consistent across the nation (I haven''t verified the Florida motorcycle death yet, but I've seen in multiple places where a motorcycle accident victim ended up on the COVID death list because he had COVID at the time). Knowing what we know about media and government, this is why people don't trust that the COVID pandemic is what it's being sold as.
WWRD wrote:
agip wrote:
https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1285791696412971008?s=20Your source looks at cases...I deliberately don't look at cases - the issues there are too complex for me to understand them. Death data is more clear...although not completely of course.
But how clear? Can I assume you've seen the news conference where the Chicago spokesperson says that COVID does not need to be the cause of death for it to be listed as a COVID death? She specifically notes that you can be in hospice, given weeks to live, but when you die, you test for COVID, you are listed as a COVID death. This seems to be consistent across the nation (I haven''t verified the Florida motorcycle death yet, but I've seen in multiple places where a motorcycle accident victim ended up on the COVID death list because he had COVID at the time). Knowing what we know about media and government, this is why people don't trust that the COVID pandemic is what it's being sold as.[/quote]
it's true that data are collected by human beings, and it's not always clear what is a covid death and what is not. Mistakes are made, certainly.
But it takes a special kind of conspiracy-crazed moran to think that the death stats aren't generally correct.
I know they want to protect trump and hate on the libs and that clouds their vision.
Fat hurts wrote:
brazen2 wrote:
Not new by any means. This information has been out there for quite a while.
Good to see you are coming around on the importance of testing though. Perhaps, at some point, you will be enlightened on other methods of stopping/controlling this epidemic.
Wear a mask
Social distance
Wash your hands
GET TESTED
The testing we have now is useless in stopping the spread of the disease.
You need to be enlightened to the fact that what you are preaching is obviously not working.
Then watch the video and you will understand why you have been wrong.
brazen2 is as much of a troll as Giles Corey's latest handle. I don't know why you keep engaging with them.
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Nuname wrote:
People not tested for Covid in Fla re being reported as testing positive for Covid.
https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/coronavirus/desantis-concerned-after-people-who-werent-tested-for-covid-19-received-positive-results?fbclid=IwAR3VABioGR-3tnGa9AdATyTGrFSuTkaHep4C2y-KBbzeXSwjRmlAjBL6l00More distracting nonsense like the motorcyclist accident who was recorded as a death. Yes, discrepancies and phony data happens, but it's not a big factor in the numbers.
81 deaths in Georgia is not great. Signals there are rising deaths in Georgia. Now, that daily death number might be worse than I suspected.
5, 3, 78, 81....makes perfect sense
L'Oncle wrote:
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
More distracting nonsense like the motorcyclist accident who was recorded as a death. Yes, discrepancies and phony data happens, but it's not a big factor in the numbers.
81 deaths in Georgia is not great. Signals there are rising deaths in Georgia. Now, that daily death number might be worse than I suspected.
5, 3, 78, 81....makes perfect sense
from GA's twitter site, telling you, who also has a computer and could look this stuff up, that the data come in unevenly and weekends have a major dampening effect, made up for later in the workweek. But I don't know why I bother, you are both a troll and completely uninterested in finding out truth.
Jul 21
#COVID19 hospitalizations and deaths continue to increase. Today’s numbers are due, in part, to decreased reporting over the weekend.
92% of today's reported deaths are from those 50+
64% of today's reported deaths are from those 70+
22% of today's positive cases reported are for 18-29 age group (previous weeks it has been ~35%)
Distribution of both newly reported cases and newly reported hospitalizations are evening out between age groups between 18-29 and 60-69
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Georgia re-opened earlier than FLA.
Why the surge now weeks after Florida's?