I can answer that one, a German scientist back in the mid twentieth century worked out for their elite athletes that 120bpm was the average heart rate for their zone 1. Therefore you were fully recovered to start the next rep, this could 30 seconds or 300 seconds into the recovery interval.
Jan has decided the 120bpm is a magic number, instead of understanding the principle behind it being your own zone 1, this could be stop on or like Max heart calculation which +/- 10 bpm from that number.
And fun fact, he still thinks my name is Hans.
So,so hilarious you still think you are correct of his first name )) lol
How are you determining that you are running 405 pace? I doubt that you really have a great feel for 405 pace right now.
The fast reps are on treadmill .🧙♂️
Treadmills are notorious unreliable actual pace/speed vs displayed pace/speed. I recommend you validate outside, at track timing distance or gps watch.
To understand how reliable your treadmill is I recommend an npe runn which measures belt speed. You can buy one off the Zwift store.
So,so hilarious you still think you are correct of his first name )) lol
It's Hans and nothing else.....
Woldemar Gerschler was one of Germany’s most successful athletics coaches prior to the Second World War. Born in Saxony in 1904, he trained high-profile runners such as Katharina “Käthe” Krauss (100-meter bronze medalist at the 1936 Olympic Games) and Rudolf Harbig (800-meter world record holder from 1938). After the War, he first worked as a football coach and led the coaching program of the German Athletics Association, before he became the Director of the Sport Institute of the University of Freiburg in 1949. He continued to be involved in athletics was responsible for the German athletics team at the Olympic Games in 1952, 1956, and 1960. In short, Gerschler had an impactful and eventful life. However, sport historians have largely neglected Gerschler’s contributions to the development of athletics, and in part have also ignored the controversial sides of his career. Complete studies on Gerschler are not available, while partial analyses of his life are scattered in numerous publications and online sources. Based on archival sources collected from the archive of the University of Freiburg, the German Federal State Archive, the State Archive in Dresden, and newspaper archives, this study aims to fill this research gap. In particular, it will focus on three defining aspects of Gerschler’s biography. (1) It explores his contribution to athletics training, and here especially the invention of the interval training method and his outspoken support for winter training. (2) It considers Gerschler’s political and nationalistic attitudes, which have been controversial. Whilst he openly spoke out in favor of convicted Nazi collaborators and was responsible for the German track-and-field squad at four Olympic Games, he also coached international athletes such as Gordon Pirie and Roger Moens, not showing strong nationalistic tendencies. (3) It analyses Gerschler’s collaboration with German sport medical doctor Herbert Reindell. The two men worked together at the University of Freiburg, where they strongly supported the development of scientific support for athletics training that Gerschler called for on a national level, too. However, the pair was later suspected to conduct research on performance-enhancing methods categorized as doping.
Most likely, this is due to errors in secondary sources. The person who worked with Woldemar Gerschler was Herbert Reindell. In biographical sources, university archives, and reference works, he is consistently referred to as Herbert Reindell. The confusion arises because some articles about interval training incorrectly refer to him as “Dr. Hans Reindell.” For example, a Spanish article on the history of interval training uses the name “Hans Reindell,” even though it is clearly describing the same person and his collaboration with Gerschler. So: ✅ Correct: Herbert Reindell ❌ Likely incorrect or mistaken: Hans Reindell This mistake may have occurred because authors saw “H. Reindell” in older publications and assumed the first name was Hans. In scientific literature of that period, only initials were often used. However, the sports physician from Freiburg who co-developed the scientific basis of interval training with Gerschler was Herbert Reindell.
Woow! Just great feeling at todays faster maxVO2 intervall ...... 20 x 45 sec ( last 2 reps 1 min) @ pace 4:05 min/ km , easy walkrest around 60 sec back to 120bpm. So,so good feeling and great controll and light breathing. Could have done atleast 5 more if that was the goal. Great day ! I'm happy ! 😎😃🧙♂️🖐
Back to the real purpose with this thread. That was not a VO2 max session.
How are you determining that you are running 405 pace? I doubt that you really have a great feel for 405 pace right now.
The fast reps are on treadmill .🧙♂️
So are you leaving the treadmill running continuously at 4:05? Hopping onto a treadmill at that pace seems like an unnecessary injury risk at your age, I would think that there are safer and more effective ways to get a useful VO2 max stimulus
So are you leaving the treadmill running continuously at 4:05? Hopping onto a treadmill at that pace seems like an unnecessary injury risk at your age, I would think that there are safer and more effective ways to get a useful VO2 max stimulus
So are you leaving the treadmill running continuously at 4:05? Hopping onto a treadmill at that pace seems like an unnecessary injury risk at your age, I would think that there are safer and more effective ways to get a useful VO2 max stimulus
No, I just push the button to speed up and down .
So the reps are actually slower because the treadmill has to speed up?
A couple of years ago. I posted in a running group for advice on Facebook. Within an hour JS had messaged me, promising the world. It was around this time I googled him and thank goodness a LRC thread came up about "Emma" who turned out to be a high school or college kid, running the times js claimed. It took anyone 30 seconds to search the Facebook profile and realise it was of course fake, there was no Emma.
I got the impression from talking to JS directly via messenger he was exaggerating or simply making up a lot of his claims, be that his own ability or who he had coached. There was never any evidence for any of it. With Jan, you get the impression there's a hint of truth here or there but he's so engrained in his own lies, he can't separate fact from fiction.
The irony and upside is I found out about Letsrun and found a little thread called "Norwegian approach on lower mileage" and it was a game changer for me. So, in some ways I have Jan to thank, even if I wouldn't have dreamt of letting him coach me as the BS he was saying just didn't add up, or contradictory in nature, hence Googling him.
I know any publicity is good publicity, but I think Jan has reached a point where you search him out, it's almost all negative. The final lol moment for me was following the NSM thread and seeing him "forget" to log out of his main account and reply to himself, as if he was someone else. You have to have a strange mind to do something like that, let alone be caught out so hilariously and foolishly!
Thanks, i almost wanted his coaching, but this thread made me realise when something is too good to be true....